What is up with the prices in the AH?

[Gwaelin]

Really, people expecting upto half a million plat for a low lv Elemental weapon, not even a "Ghost Touched, X elemental of X ability", but just a plain old elemental weapon.

Also even the crappiest low end Mythral armor costs 150-250(is what they ask for, and that's on the cheap side, I've seen peaple asking millions for **** grade Mythral armour), this must be a joke, if they expect hundreds of thousands of plat for anything other then Fullplate grade armor or the occassional high enhancment half plate.

What's up, is this server full of Plat Farmers destroying the market or does this server natually suck to no end?

[FluffyCalico]

how good it is for the level you can use it at is whats important. Not how good it is for a capped character.

[Gwaelin]

how good it is for the level you can use it at is whats important. Not how good it is for a capped character.

Well a lv 2 weapon, that's just elemental X(no other abilities) being even priced for over 50k is rather crazy, let alone the 150,250,500+ thousand they are asking for. The only way anyone at a reasonable lv, where that weapon would still be decent could get that much Plat/Gold, is if they are buying plat from plat farmers.

Also, no I'm sorry, but low lv equips that aren't special(aka extremely OPed for the lv, thus transending lv grading standards, shouldn't ever be priced, at these insane prices.

[quintuss]

Well, since most people have been playing their capped toons for a looong time now, everybody has a lot stuff for capped toons and most have dumped the good gear for lowbies bec of full bags and banktabs.
That makes good low and mid level gear more expensive than stuff for capped toons.

Edit: And then there's some greedy people who just don't understand whats a good price and what's ridiculously overpriced. Most of these people will get their stuff back after 3 days

[sirdanile]

yup, +1 mithral fullplate, being the highest level 2 armor class you can get is worth more than a normal +5 fullplate, +1 pure good weapon with a min level of 2 is the best level 2 weapon, with acid and other elemental then alignment effects behind it, you should look at the tomes, hoo boy they got semi-nerfed but the price doubled on thelanis!

(if you want to find a reasonable trade for stuff post in the marketplace section, also for a player whos been playing for years...500k gold is not that much )

[sirgog]

Personally I'd pay 5k PP for a +1 Acid weapon (min level 2); and 50-75k PP for a +1 Acid of Pure Good (min level 2, race required and the race I want to play). That's what I sell my twink gear for too.

[sirdanile]

personally I'd Pay 5k Pp For A +1 Acid Weapon (min Level 2); And 50-75k Pp For A +1 Acid Of Pure Good (min Level 2, Race Required And The Race I Want To Play). That's What I Sell My Twink Gear For Too.

Qft

[Lorien_the_First_One]

Well a lv 2 weapon, that's just elemental X(no other abilities) being even priced for over 50k is rather crazy, let alone the 150,250,500+ thousand they are asking for. The only way anyone at a reasonable lv, where that weapon would still be decent could get that much Plat/Gold, is if they are buying plat from plat farmers.

Also, no I'm sorry, but low lv equips that aren't special(aka extremely OPed for the lv, thus transending lv grading standards, shouldn't ever be priced, at these insane prices.

What you don't understand is vet players have MILLIONS of plat sitting around with nothing to do with it. I have probably 5mil plat and I'm a casual player. A power gamer may have 10 times that.

A good low level twink item is worth 10x its face value in most cases, people use the cash they have to optimize their twinking during levelling. As for mithral, a good set of mith is worth far more than any regular armor at low to mid level for the dex builds and the builds restricted to light/med armor.

While there are unreasonable prices often posted, the prices you gave are actually fair for the market given the overabundance of cash. You don't need to be a plat farmer to have that amount of cash.

Don't like it? Cannith would be the only server without 3+ years of inflation.

[Gwaelin]

What you don't understand is vet players have MILLIONS of plat sitting around with nothing to do with it. I have probably 5mil plat and I'm a casual player. A power gamer may have 10 times that.

A good low level twink item is worth 10x its face value in most cases, people use the cash they have to optimize their twinking during levelling. As for mithral, a good set of mith is worth far more than any regular armor at low to mid level for the dex builds and the builds restricted to light/med armor.

While there are unreasonable prices often posted, the prices you gave are actually fair for the market given the overabundance of cash. You don't need to be a plat farmer to have that amount of cash.

Don't like it? Cannith would be the only server without 3+ years of inflation.

Natural inflation what, accounts for maybe a 5% increase per year "tops", things are upwards of 10x or more overpriced. Also, you're very wrong, do everyone a favor, before posting saying this is natural, and that any server here this long would be simular, perhaps next time check the other servers first lol. Also, I played games that have been around for much longer then this game, and while the market may be off at times, It's never anything to this extent.

It's Plat Farmers, that cuases markets to end up like this. Also just to point out a server in much better shape, that Isn't new, I suggest you check out Kyber.

PS. Ironically enough, I already started getting spam mail from plat farmers, and mod 9 just came out(just another business day for them heh), the inflation on this server is natural my ***.

[Elsbet]

Natural inflation what, accounts for maybe a 5% increase per year "tops",

In the real world, maybe. In a game where twink gear is in demand, inflation increases exponentially with the rarity of the item and the willingness of people to pay. I've seen a certain type of item increase in value 150% in a matter of days after a new mod comes out and people realize the weapons they'd been vendor trashing were suddenly valuable.

Real world economics doesn't apply in DDO.

[Mhykke]

What's up, is this server full of Plat Farmers destroying the market or does this server natually suck to no end?

Maybe.

[Elsbet]

Maybe.

Oh c'mon Mhykke. Tell the truth...

[incontinetia]

You also have to uderstand what people who are twinking are really into these days.

For instance, a +1 acid greatsword wasnt really worth much before the new mod release. Now, since the lord of blades path, these lowbee swords are now sellling for tons of cash simply because they are in demand.

Also light weapons are usually more expensive for twinking 2 weapon lowbies which rarely have a the oversized feat yet.

Money is the easiest thing to get on this game and you will be rich too one day

[Jonny_D]

Natural inflation what, accounts for maybe a 5% increase per year "tops", things are upwards of 10x or more overpriced. Also, you're very wrong, do everyone a favor, before posting saying this is natural, and that any server here this long would be simular, perhaps next time check the other servers first lol. Also, I played games that have been around for much longer then this game, and while the market may be off at times, It's never anything to this extent.

It's Plat Farmers, that cuases markets to end up like this. Also just to point out a server in much better shape, that Isn't new, I suggest you check out Kyber.

PS. Ironically enough, I already started getting spam mail from plat farmers, and mod 9 just came out(just another business day for them heh), the inflation on this server is natural my ***.

I have levelled characters to cap (well currently working on new cap, and only level 12.3 on thelanis) on 3 servers, and all 3 are very similar. Argo is the most expensive, but often has the best deals if you look. The prices you list are reasonable, and in fact cheap. One could buy the things you listed doulbe the price, flip them again and still make a profit after the ah fee. you cant really use real inflation rates. Well if you use war time inflation rates possibly. Im thinking post ww1 germany inflation. remember there is no limit (or at least a very high one)
to the amount of money a player can make by simply vendoring stuff, its like a liscence to print money...devaluing the currency... which is what inflation is.

Judging by your comment and your join date you are relatively new and possibly a f2p beta player, who can only have 10 k plat on a toon. that would be frustrating to me, and pretty much make the ah a bust.

If you are looking for uber gear, i just selling your and send ingame tells and emails to Blahish or anyone else in the guil "my little pwny" offering your undying worship, devotion and loyalty as a true believer in the "mad god of argonessen", and I am sure they will give you some nice level appropriate gear. Remember ts persistence that pays off 100 emails and 5 minutes of constant private messages should be enough to make it pay off.

[KoboldKiller]

I have played for over 2 years and while I understand what the veterans are saying I have to agree the AH is out of control. Yes there are many people who are plat capped or at least have plenty of plat but that is the exact reason to NOT put huge prices for level 2 weapons, you don't need the money. We all talk about wanting a bigger player base yet that is one big turn off for new players trying to play this game and keep pace with the veterans (I know it frustrated me). If you don't need the plat why not put a reasonable price on theses items. I know some will argue "If I don't do it someone else will" but why not be above that? I do not put level 2 weapons on the AH for the most part but the few I have I have never put a 6 figure price on them. Most of the time I hand them out or bank them for future use. This is why I am enjoying Cannith, although I have noticed the power levelers are already putting some stupid prices on items. Sadly the economy over there will get out of whack as well. Greed is greed whether in a game or in life. *SIGH* Anyway that's my 2cp.

[Elsbet]

If you are looking for uber gear, i just selling your and send ingame tells and emails to Blahish or anyone else in the guil "my little pwny" offering your undying worship, devotion and loyalty as a true believer in the "mad god of argonessen", and I am sure they will give you some nice level appropriate gear. Remember ts persistence that pays off 100 emails and 5 minutes of constant private messages should be enough to make it pay off.

Don't go to the darkside! Beware of minor deities with anger management issues!

Seriously though, he's right. Most of us who have been playing for years now have at least some good lowbie and mid-level gear we could help out with. Just catch us in game.

[Cedrica-the-Bard]

Well, it's clearly not so F2P peeps can buy the items. Unless somehow it makes sense that these players won't pay for the game yet they'd spend real cash to buy plat...

[KoboldKiller]

Well, it's clearly not so F2P peeps can buy the items. Unless somehow it makes sense that these players won't pay for the game yet they'd spend real cash to buy plat...

Actually, that's exactly what some people will probably due. It would be seen as an occasional purchase instead of a reoccurring cost.

[Jonny_D]

I have played for over 2 years and while I understand what the veterans are saying I have to agree the AH is out of control. Yes there are many people who are plat capped or at least have plenty of plat but that is the exact reason to NOT put huge prices for level 2 weapons, you don't need the money. We all talk about wanting a bigger player base yet that is one big turn off for new players trying to play this game and keep pace with the veterans (I know it frustrated me). If you don't need the plat why not put a reasonable price on theses items. I know some will argue "If I don't do it someone else will" but why not be above that? I do not put level 2 weapons on the AH for the most part but the few I have I have never put a 6 figure price on them. Most of the time I hand them out or bank them for future use. This is why I am enjoying Cannith, although I have noticed the power levelers are already putting some stupid prices on items. Sadly the economy over there will get out of whack as well. Greed is greed whether in a game or in life. *SIGH* Anyway that's my 2cp.

What you say makes sense, except that one can never have enough pp (well I suppose 150000000pp per account is enough ...30 x 5000000pp). And if there were no Plat farmers to buy up all the cheap gear and turn it over at higher prices it might have a chance. I prefer to give away the gear ratherv than sell it.

[kaelis]

Natural inflation what, accounts for maybe a 5% increase per year "tops", things are upwards of 10x or more overpriced. Also, you're very wrong, do everyone a favor, before posting saying this is natural, and that any server here this long would be simular, perhaps next time check the other servers first lol. Also, I played games that have been around for much longer then this game, and while the market may be off at times, It's never anything to this extent.

It's Plat Farmers, that cuases markets to end up like this. Also just to point out a server in much better shape, that Isn't new, I suggest you check out Kyber.

PS. Ironically enough, I already started getting spam mail from plat farmers, and mod 9 just came out(just another business day for them heh), the inflation on this server is natural my ***.

el oh el. Do us all a favour, go to khyber then, you might fit in better if you think that. Your whining is pathetic especially you think you know everything without ever playing this game. I have at least 6 capped(well they were capped, now finishing toon 3 to 20) and Platnium is so easy to get its a joke, so when I see the +1 acid X of pure good min level 2 rr gimp on the ah for 250-500k plat... instant buy because that weapon will have my low level toon cruising through content at light speed - something that is worth it because low levels are boring, imo, and many others - and that is why prices are so high, because people know that and know plat is almsot meaningless to some people.

Oh, and by the by, I've played on khyber their prices are quite similar most times.