Serious GPU overheating

[Cleitanious]

Do not run your GPU at 75-80c. A typical electrolytic capacitor's lifespan will be decreased by 200 hours for every 2 degrees above 50c.

[Strakeln]

Do not run your GPU at 75-80c. A typical electrolytic capacitor's lifespan will be decreased by 200 hours for every 2 degrees above 50c.

Are "typical" electrolytic capacitors used in high end video cards? (serious question, not a snark).

I ask because the manufacturers don't appear to be concerned about anything under 60-70.

[Cleitanious]

Are "typical" electrolytic capacitors used in high end video cards? (serious question, not a snark).

I ask because the manufacturers don't appear to be concerned about anything under 60-70.

The manufacturer doesn't mind if the hardware fails after an extended period of time. Especially if that time is anywhere after the warranty expires for that hardware. A typical capacitor wouldn't be evaporated anytime soon, but it's inevitable and there's no reason to speed that process up. Plus, a burning hot GPU would radiate heat onto nearby components and increase their temperatures as well. One of the most misdiagnosed, misunderstood and most common computer failure causes is capacitor evaporation and it's symptoms can range from random slow downs, blue screens, shut downs and a whole host and a half of possible symptoms because of intermittent and incorrect voltages.

I'm just saying. Run it as cool as possible and it will last longer. A lot longer.

As for if High End video cards use higher quality capacitors than junk hardware. The answer is yes. However, no matter how sophisticated it may be, water is still water and still evaporates over time and more quickly at a higher temperature.

But, I'm no expert.

[Synergy64]

I've got a 8800GT and am having the same overheating issues in DDO as others have posted here. I'll put money on the fact that it's a programming issue, hopefully the developers will look into this.

People were having the same issue with the game Trine when it came out. Turned out there was a problem with the way the developers implemented anti aliasing in the game. Running it with ANY anti aliasing turned on was causing even the ultra high end video cards to run extremely high temps. The temporary fix was simply to turn off AA and the game ran just fine (unfortunately the temporary solution for DDO does not appear to be that simple). The developers of Trine eventually released a patch that fixed the problem and then AA worked just fine on all cards without overheating them.

[Cleitanious]

Oh yeah, DDO does run pretty hot, all things considered. It should be addressed.

[Strakeln]

I'm just saying. Run it as cool as possible and it will last longer. A lot longer.

Obviously solid advice.

I was asking more about your numbers... basically, how accurate they were and how much they applied to high end video cards. I'm running a GTX285 with 2GB of VRAM on a 30" @2560x1600... heck, I'm at 55 degrees just sitting here surfing the web... that's a lotta pixels! I crank the fan for gaming and generally stay between 60 and 70, depending on how warm the air in the room is.

But the card never starts to throttle itself until it hits 80 degrees (which has happened when I forget to crank the fan before gaming, lol).

[Trappers]

I play on a laptop. My old laptop would overheat when playing. I set it on a small window fan. Try aiming a fan at it. This probably won't work forever. My overheating issues continued to get worse to the point where I couldn't run anything without it overheating.

[Cleitanious]

Obviously solid advice.

I was asking more about your numbers... basically, how accurate they were and how much they applied to high end video cards. I'm running a GTX285 with 2GB of VRAM on a 30" @2560x1600... heck, I'm at 55 degrees just sitting here surfing the web... that's a lotta pixels! I crank the fan for gaming and generally stay between 60 and 70, depending on how warm the air in the room is.

But the card never starts to throttle itself until it hits 80 degrees (which has happened when I forget to crank the fan before gaming, lol).

Not all capacitors contain the same amount of water and you would have to know exactly which brand/model the capacitor actually was to even research is design life. aka life expectancy. On average the design life of a modern, aqua-electrolytic (water based) capacitor is 2,000 hours at 85c (considered maximum running temperature). The design life would be double for every 10 degrees Celsius below 85c. So every degree really matters.

I do not know which brand/model Nvidia uses in their GTX2 series, it would also likely depend on the 3rd party manufacturer, such as BFG.

I play on a laptop. My old laptop would overheat when playing. I set it on a small window fan. Try aiming a fan at it. This probably won't work forever. My overheating issues continued to get worse to the point where I couldn't run anything without it overheating.

I actually have my desktop computer with both sides open to allow maximum ventilation (NO heat is trapped). I also sit it on wood, never store your desktop computer on carpeting or inside of a cabinet-like structure.

Also, I would advise against sitting your computer on top of or against any type of household fan since their motors are most commonly magnet based. Magnets and computers do not mix well. So unless you're sure of your fan's magnetic strength versus it's distance from your computer's components I would keep it away.

[grimblackblade]

I had the same problem...

Dell Laptop XPS M1330, GeForce 8400M GS. Loaded DDO, played for about 25 minutes, then pop, overheated and crashed.

Didn't know what the problem was because I played on my other Dell laptop no problem for a year. Posted on forums, tried a ton of stuff, including buying a fan that sits under the laptop, etc.

No luck. I play a lot of other newer games on the laptop, but DDO just shoots my temp up within minutes that I can't play at all. It's actually kind of funny because when I was testing things, I'd load DDO, see the heat spike, switch to another open window, like calculator, see the temp go down, switch focus to DDO, it skyrockets, calculator, it goes down...

That was over a year ago, never been able to find the problem with DDO. So I resigned myself to never being able to play it on that laptop.

[Lundivar]

Was wondering if any other people can compare GPU temps while playing DDO vs. just about any other game?

[LSerion]

Same problem here. I just started the game yesterday, and after 5 minutes my card actually shut down due to overheating. Icing on this cake: I can't even start the game now, 'cos I get an error message saying "dndclient encountered an error and shut down".

[natetk]

Yea I have a Radeon 3870HD, and the game would keep freezing on me. I would then close it through task manager. I looked at my temps and it said 90 degrees Celsius, so I don't know if playing this game is worth it lol. I guess I could try turning graphics down.

[Cleitanious]

Yea I have a Radeon 3870HD, and the game would keep freezing on me. I would then close it through task manager. I looked at my temps and it said 90 degrees Celsius, so I don't know if playing this game is worth it lol. I guess I could try turning graphics down.

Try increasing ventilation and fan speeds.

[fetothor]

I have an 8800gt. Reducing max FPS to 75 fixed this for me. I didn't spend alot of time testing it out i could probally bump it up higher. I started at 60fps and kept raising it until i had no stuttering.

[Lundivar]

I have an 8800gt. Reducing max FPS to 75 fixed this for me. I didn't spend alot of time testing it out i could probally bump it up higher. I started at 60fps and kept raising it until i had no stuttering.

Yes putting a max FPS works miracles (Literally!) for stuttering. On my 9600GT I like to put 65 so I am over the 60 fps mark. Though it didn't help for cooling my hot GPU. BTW this has nothing to do with ventilation, I have tons of ventilation, I'm not worried about my GPU temps (fan @ 100%, the GPU reaches 61 C), but nonetheless, this game shoots my GPU temps higher than any other program I have, including Folding at Home I found out!

That one made me wonder...


L.

[Bolo_Grubb]

I am having the same problem.

DDO cause my card gtx260 to run hotter then any other game I play (TF2, L4D1&2, Rainbow 6 vegas 2, Call of duty world at war).

How do you limit the frame rate? is that game specific or global setting?

[Halaryel]

I have a laptop with a GT130M

seriously i've reach the 90°C mark (i am in vietnam)..it use to drop my card speed dramaticaly until i removed powermizer (since it does also crash my machine usually)

now if i want to play i have to go to a café with climatisation, i turned graphics down, i remove DIrectx10 options... and i only get into the 70-80°C ...

i will try limit the frame rate and see (yet i cant log in, i am stuck at "Examine programs: Waiting" as are my 2 other friends...) and keep you informed.

Ps: How do it increase my Fan speed? i have an asus Laptop, if it is in the Bios then i am in trouble because there is no advanced option into my laptop bios, and i could not find anywhere how to get to advanced mode for my bios (YES, i do know how to enter a bios...)

[Halaryel]

OK after some research i have found out that there is a series of Nvidia card that have a manufacturing problem (as of 2008) it as been publicaly admited by nvidia!

In 2009, nvidia sold GT100 120 130 which are renaming of 8800GS, 9600GSO et 9500GT series which have heating problems.....

dont hesitate to contact your vendor to get it to change, depending on your local low you can invoke a hidden product flaw (vice caché in french).

here some link if you can read french

http://www.agoravox.fr/tribune-libre...scandale-50540

DELL list : http://www.presence-pc.com/actualite...rce-bug-30599/
HP list: http://www.pcworld.fr/2008/07/31/mat...edium=redirect
RENAMING: http://www.theinquirer.fr/2009/01/04...tres-noms.html