Evoker FvS

[JDCrowell]

i'd go with paladin. the combination of good base saves, a decent charisma score, and the paladin dilletante seems like a potent bonus imo.

I went H-Elf with my Evoker. I planned him as an 18 Fvs 2 Monk split with a Pally Dill. That is an awesome split and I had a ton of fun with it, I just couldn't let go of the idea of only 1 level 9 spell. The saves were awesome and I had evasion, but I LR'd him into a pure FvS with a Sorc dil to pass on having to put ranks into UMD.

If/when I TR him, I think I'll just go standard Human Evoker. Just too much potential there IMO. But H-elves give you great options.

[Clawkin]

i'd go with paladin. the combination of good base saves, a decent charisma score, and the paladin dilletante seems like a potent bonus imo.

hmm, I wonder if Half-Elf Follower of the Sovereign Host stacks with the FvS line....

[SpearKicker]

Impaqt,

I started a guy following this build a some weeks ago. Reached lvl 20. Just want to thank you for sharing this!

I already have a cleric at cap that I HATE to play with. Before I stop playing with divine, I decided to roll a fvs to give them another chance... Its a blast to play! Really fun at every lvl. Friends told me that it should be hard to play until I get BB, but it was not. Just crafted the best AC shield and mithral full plate and could melee preaty well (using sound burst/comand/and other spells during fights).

Only thing I did diferent is change to Silver Flame at cap. I prefer the free searing lights. Gess I change to it after some runs at the new quest chain (at twelve), to make it easyer to kill that anoying floating eyes.

Thanks again for sharing this nice build.

[Cam_Neely]

I'm sure I missed it in the pages, but why Sovereign Host over Silver Flame?

Seems the weapon boosts are not a huge +/- on either side, as they are not used much. So it comes down to the deity enhancement and the capped free SLA.

On a typical, decent geared, lv 20 FvS, how much does the free Searing light and CLW hit for? I assume they are effected by metamagics?

[Matuse]

With Superior Potency VI, Empower, Maximize, Life Magic IV, on a human with human healing amp I, the CLW capstone hits in the 40-60 range.

[Faent]

With Superior Potency VI, Empower, Maximize, Life Magic IV, on a human with human healing amp I, the CLW capstone hits in the 40-60 range.

It hits for more if you're running Superior Ardor or Superior Efficacy. My FvS can sustain at least 14 minutes of 75% amped heals (between shrines). Add to that 3 minutes of 100% amped heals. And then consider crit gear, such as Greater Arcane Lore items. That Capstone can spit out a TON of healing if you're geared properly.

[Jaid314]

- the 100% amp heals are only 1 minute per shrine, as a general rule.
- efficacy is only 50%.
- i'm not aware of any way to sustain 14 minutes of 75% healing; you can have 12 or 15, or generally any multiple of 3 really, if you have enough clickies.
- that said, it is indeed a very nice ability.

[Matuse]

Difference between Potency and Ardor will be very small, given the tiny base heal you have to work with.

Healing amp on the target will have a much larger effect.

[Crann]

Difference between Potency and Ardor will be very small, given the tiny base heal you have to work with.

Healing amp on the target will have a much larger effect.

Is it small enough not to be noticed....or is the boost from Superior Ardor not applying to the capstone effect?

The reason I ask is that after seeing Cam's post yesterday, I went home from work to test it out. I clicked the free capstone cure light around 20 times seeing results from 37 to 62 points of healing.....using superior potency 6 longsword, Skiver, Emp, and Max with full line of healing enhancements.

I then clicked my Sup Ardor 6 item, and ran through about another 20 free capstone cure lights, but the results were the same, as opposed to seeing a 25% increase. My testing methods weren't exactly scientific, but the difference should have been clearly noticable.

Is that WAI? Is it considering the Capstone a 20th level effect, and not applying the Ardor 6 to it. By that logic Sup Pot 6 wouldn't be effecting it either. I am guessing that is the case. Now that I think about it my mass cure light wounds hit consistently over 100, so not everything that effects CLW is applying to the Capstone CLW.

Anyone know the answer to this for sure, or is a more formalized testing in order?

[wootvenu]

Difference between Potency and Ardor will be very small, given the tiny base heal you have to work with.

Healing amp on the target will have a much larger effect.

Does Sup Potency effects heals?

[Nyvn]

Does Sup Potency effects heals?

Yes, and it's very easy to test.

[Matuse]

Is it small enough not to be noticed

Small enough to barely be noticed. 20 is not a good enough representative sample. 100 would be better.

CLW only does 8-13 points, base.

8 x 1.5 = 12
8 x 1.75 = 14

13 x 1.5 = 19.5
13 x 1.75 = 22.75

You're only talking about 2 points of healing on average, since the game will round down almost always.

[Candela90]

Okey. Im on 18 lvl with that build now. It have lot of advantages but disadvantages too.
Dis;
1. To 12 lvl its mostly playing nanny bot.
2. When u start casting in offence and healing and buffing party u pretty often lack of sp.
3. When ure off sp and one mob comes to u on lelvel 15+ ure dead ;D Of course if there no one to save u.

Still i enjoy playing this build.
I went elf, and dumped UMD and took balance, cause i ended up dead like 2 times oper level 6+ by being knocked ;].
As an elf i have 1 enh. less, so i dumped extend and empower and took spell pen.

Still... i really have problems in Amrath cause on devils and Orthons BB, DP, Searing Light are kinda... not succefull? Its hardly taking any damage at all.
But to this point this build was great damage dealer.

Maybe Impaqt will give me advice on Amrath tactic. Cause now i just heal there

[Faent]

- the 100% amp heals are only 1 minute per shrine, as a general rule.
- efficacy is only 50%.
- i'm not aware of any way to sustain 14 minutes of 75% healing; you can have 12 or 15, or generally any multiple of 3 really, if you have enough clickies.
- that said, it is indeed a very nice ability.

Thanks for the corrections. Also, I should have focused on the topic at hand. The capstone can be permanently 75% amped (with clickies), and amped further with the Eardweller.

The Mass Cures can be amped by 100% for three minutes. And then amped for 75% for another 9. That's 12 minutes of at least 75% amping.

Between shrines, it's 10 minutes of at least 75% amping.

I think I got it right that time.

[Faent]

Still... i really have problems in Amrath cause on devils and Orthons BB, DP, Searing Light are kinda... not succefull? Its hardly taking any damage at all. But to this point this build was great damage dealer. Maybe Impaqt will give me advice on Amrath tactic. Cause now i just heal there

A couple points. First, you're level 18. This means you don't have the neat innate 10 DR. That's pretty huge. With 10 DR and Sonic Resistance up, you should be able to easily BB kite all trash while self-healing with the free CLW capstone (which you don't have yet).

So at level 18, you're missing free healing and 10 innate DR. That's huge. This means you have to spend SP to heal yourself. Lacking those, it might be tough for you to do well unless you have lots of SP, SP-regen items, other sources of DR, and so on... Give it time.

You also want to boost the DC on your BB as high as you can. In Amrath, an Evoker FvS is king if they have free healing, solid BB's and 10 innate DR.

You can make up for the lack of free healing by scroll-healing yourself. You can compensate for the lack innate 10 DR with a 5 DR item. You can compensate for a lack of SP with a Torc, if you can find one. But if your DC isn't great, your SP pool isn't great or isn't regenning, and your DR is poor, you'll have a bit of difficulty PWNing. Healing content until you're better geared is just fine. =)

[GotSomeQuestions]

Now that I think about it my mass cure light wounds hit consistently over 100, so not everything that effects CLW is applying to the Capstone CLW.

At caster level 20, Cure Light Wounds heals 1d6+7 hp. Mass Cure Light Wounds heals 1d6+27, about three times as much. That's because, while both heal (1d6+2) + caster level, CLW caps at caster level 5, while MCLW caps at caster level 25.

[Candela90]

Oh. tyvm.
I thought i did sth wrong with my build or so that i can harlky kill anything on Amrath. Maybe really on 20 lvl it will be better.
Oh and Iam still at 31 wisdom. Maybe thats it too.
But i need some time to end my +3 exceptional wis on my greensteel bracers. And didnt took +2 tome yet. Hope itll drop maybe till 20. And im elf so i dont have human wis.
I have 18 + 6 item + 5 level ups + 2 enhancements = 31. Bad for now, but what can i do. Its my second char on this level. Earlier i played cleric to somethink like 9-10 lvl and sorcerer not even long enough to end Korthos (didnt like it). So i dont have tomes, gs items or pp from past lifes and alter ego's. Its making it more difficult to afford on "almost" first char tomes if they dont drop before this 20 lvl.

[GotSomeQuestions]

But i need some time to end my +3 exceptional wis on my greensteel bracers.

You should double check your planner. +1 and +2 Exceptional Stat Bonuses are *only* available on Green Steel Weapons. It's possible that with your recipe, the bracers would give +3 Exceptional to Wisdom Skills, but I doubt you want a +3 to Spot/Listen.

[Candela90]

Oh ure right... lol Good i didnt even started crafting this thing, just collected items.

[Kareena]

Hello;

I have a 34pt build WF FVS melee build. I find that end game (lvl 18atm) I am using alot more BB; DP etc then I am meleeing. I would like to be able to still do abit of melee but more more toward evoker build. I have eaten a +3 str & wis tome and tring again is not an option for me- if evoker wont work I will stay melee soul.

I am able to lesser reincarnate though. I was wondering if this would work for a build that is mostly evoker; with melee capabilities- able to do some epic farming(solo); heal raids and generally be awesome.

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Level 20 True Neutral Warforged Female
(20 Favored Soul) 
Hit Points: 332
Spell Points: 1911 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 11
Will: 20

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             14                    17
Dexterity             8                     8
Constitution         14                    18
Intelligence         10                    12
Wisdom               16                    26
Charisma             12                    18

Tomes Used
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)

Concentration         6                    27
Use Magic Device      3                    15

Level 1 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Spell
Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Lord of Blades
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric


Level 2 (Favored Soul)


Level 3 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 4 (Favored Soul)


Level 5 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Electricity


Level 6 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell


Level 7 (Favored Soul)


Level 8 (Favored Soul)


Level 9 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Evocation


Level 10 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire


Level 11 (Favored Soul)


Level 12 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Focus: Evocation


Level 13 (Favored Soul)


Level 14 (Favored Soul)


Level 15 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Cold
Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell


Level 16 (Favored Soul)


Level 17 (Favored Soul)


Level 18 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell


Level 19 (Favored Soul)


Level 20 (Favored Soul)
Feat: (Diety) Favored Soul Damage Reduction: Adamantine
Enhancement: Favored Soul Ascendency: Lord of Blades
Enhancement: Favored Soul Angel of Vengeance I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Greatsword Specialization I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Greatsword Specialization II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Smiting I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Smiting II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Smiting III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Smiting IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Spell Penetration II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wisdom II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II
Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III
Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I

Str 14 (14 + 3tome + 6 item + 3 exceptional = 26)
Dex 8 (meh)
Con 14 (14 + 2 tome + 6 item + 2 enhancements= 24)
Int 10 (meh)
Wis 16 (max for wf) (16 + 5 lvl ups + 6 item + 3 tome + 3 exceptional + 2 enhancements = 35. need to hunt down litany & makes it 36 max.)
Cha 12 (12 + 2 tome + 6item + 2 enhancements + 2 capstone = 24)


Feats:
Empower
Maximize
Heighten
Quicken
SF:Evocation
GSF Evocation


Do you think this will work out okay? Is the wisdom too low in the end to be effective in epics & I should just stick with melee?

Is there any evoker gear I should start collecting & being on the lookout for? Anything that with help- suggestions welcomed! thanks for feedback