Big Brother Is Watching

[kingfisher]

so do you have to sign up and be active on the myddo thing for all your **** to be visible or is it already?

and yes, i think it sucks, just like i think myface and geighbook and all those other net****ing site do. u wanna know something about me, ask. otherwise **** and go away.

[Sohryu]

Some note from the my.lotro forums, please note the "Privacy Please" section

Things I wish everyone using my.lotro.com learns quickly before making more posts about these subjects...

I'm sorry that I don't read things about LoTRO since I play DDO

I'm not some paranoid conspiracy theorist, I don't have anything to hide about my characters and I'm not afraid of people thinking I'm "gimp". I just want an "opt out" button, I really don't think it's too much to ask for.

[AldaronTavish]

I'm sorry that I don't read things about LoTRO since I play DDO

I'm not some paranoid conspiracy theorist, I don't have anything to hide about my characters and I'm not afraid of people thinking I'm "gimp". I just want an "opt out" button, I really don't think it's too much to ask for.

I posted it because
1) Turbine runs both DDO & LotRO
2) Same system
3) all your concerns have been posted there so maybe read those threads before bringing it up here as Turbine is already aware of most of the concerns.

Personally I don't see the big deal about it all. It's not like anything links to real life info, big deal if someone knows details of your character.

[Memnir]

You can also just simply disable the Character Widgets from being displayed...

My Admin/Appearance/Widgets

Turn off any you don't want to have displayed. Be interesting to see if we can eventually import any.

[Thriand]

The default setting is anonymous.

As far as I can tell setting all your characters as anonymous doesn't keep them from being seen, just doesn't link them to your profile.

[7-day_Trial_Monkey]

Exactly. People should have been able to choose to participate, in other words, my.DDO starts out blank and if you want you can go there and upload all your character info. Just automatically putting up everyone's information without their consent kinda goes too far, IMO.

Read the TOS.. it's not your stuff.

The End.

[FluffyCalico]

Personally I don't see the big deal about it all. It's not like anything links to real life info, big deal if someone knows details of your character.

you can always keep spare master works in your bank and every time you log off make sure to put on all the masterwork. LOL Then all anyone will know is your level split which they they could get from the LFM anyway.

[FluffyCalico]

The default setting is anonymous.

Only issue is that the setting of anonymous doesn't make you anonymous. All anonymous does is not link your posts to your toons. It in no way keeps people from typing in your toon name and seeing everything. IE its about as anonymous as FTP is free.

[Thriand]

Read the TOS.. it's not your stuff.

The End.

Not giving a working option of disabling it is just bad business.

The End.

[Ranmaru2]

I think with this option we're going to see like 20,000 people making Oddlived's build all over the servers and then play it and not know what to do.

The fact that builds are available for people to see now kinda ticks me off, since now people can just look up your character, see the stats, have a rough idea of what your feats are and then prance off and level one up taking a fat guess (which ain't that hard) about when feats were taken and level order and we've now created the WoW world of characters where everyone and their mother is dressed just the same. Problem is people won't know how to play it, and then might make builds look bad for raids and then kinda create a downhill effect for people trying to join a raid with the same build.

(This might be a total exaggeration for how PUGs might be once others start getting to the level we're at - New players in less than 10 hours, but it is a possibility)

[Lewcipher]

You mean what my characters are wearing? Cuz if you knew I was in boxers and socks with a little sack hangin' would you really look?

[FluffyCalico]

Little

Lmao

[Lewcipher]

Lmao

I mean, c'mon. It's improper to have a lot hangin' out!

[TechNoFear]

Is it any worse then my.yahoo.com?

You have a choice to be involved with my.yahoo.com etc.

I do not appear to have a choice in being involved in my.DDO.

I am unable to disable public viewing (removing the character widgit and explicitly setting all to anon does not work).

[dv8maker123]

not too dissimilar to SOE's player profiles. People like to see what the elite members have aquired. Consider it sort of a status symbol section. Anywho, at the end of the day, it's not like they are taking picutres of your wife and kids...its a toon on a video game (we save the family photos for the federal government after all)..

[bandyman1]

Not saying I'm for or against this ( I could honestly care less either way ), but I have to ask;

*** are all the peeps who swarmed all over the mere suggestion that there be an icon to designate FtP players???

I mean hell; It was compared to gold starring the Jews for crying out loud.

So; People are perfectly fine with a system that will let someone look up any toon that applies to their LFM before accepting ( and if you don't think people will use this tech to screen LFM apps, you're a moron ), seeing gear, stats, ect?

But they raise holy hell when someone suggests that maybe it'd be a good idea to know who will actually even be able to run the quest they're planning? Because " people would only use this to exclude others " ?

LMFAO. This is the funniest **** I've seen on the boards in months.

[Thriand]

But they raise holy hell when someone suggests that maybe it'd be a good idea to know who will actually even be able to run the quest they're planning? Because " people would only use this to exclude others " ?

Where did anyone in this thread say it was because "people would only use this to exclude others"

Sure this might be used for screening pugs but I think the main point here is that Turbine should give their customers the right to choose whether or not to have their characters information public.

[baddax]

people will screen regardless. If a person is anonymous they will be overlooked as inferior or gimped and/or trying to hide something.

My only personal gripe is that many people do not necessarily want there entire build laid out for all to see. Not because they have anything to hide but a build is a personal thing. If i want to tell someone my stats etc then that is compltely up to me.

[Leadsides]

It's too late to gripe about any of this. Unless Turbine decides to can this project, we will all have to simply put up with knowing our character information is public. While being asked first would have been polite and respectful to the player base (especially the paying members.. ), it's not that big of a deal. The information displayed is only semi-helpful if someone wanted to use it as a base for planning their own character. Where a character's stats come from, skill set, enhancements, starting build and points, etc. are all non-disclosed information that would be critical to replicating a build. So I don't believe anyone has to worry about getting "copied".

As for using the database as a filter for LFMs, that is an evil we will have to learn to live with. For the same reasons that prevent someone from copying your build, an LFM leader will only be able to guess at what a character can do from this limited information. As for becoming anonymous, that might be worse for someone as it could be taken as an attempt to hide a horribly gimped character from the public eye. There's no way to overcome the LFM "applicant review" except to wait until it's proven that the lack of information makes using the database for screening unreliable at best.

[bandyman1]

Where did anyone in this thread say it was because "people would only use this to exclude others"

Sure this might be used for screening pugs but I think the main point here is that Turbine should give their customers the right to choose whether or not to have their characters information public.

No one in this thread did.

Perhaps my communication should have been clearer.

Let me break it down for you;

A few days ago, someone posted a thread about having an icon or some such to designate FtP and ViP players. The person posted that they wanted this, because they'd had loads of problems with FtP players joining their LFMs, and then not having access to the content being run.

People flamed the holy hell out of the idea, claiming that it would only be used to exclude people. It was even compared to Hitler and the Nazi's persecution of the Jews ( which is stupid. We're talking about a video game FFS ).

So; I want to know where are those people are now? All I see for the most part is people telling the OP that this isn't a big deal.

But if anyone thinks for one second that the " elitests " ( as we're called ) won't be using this tech to see and compare what Joe-Bob the Harbor Noob, and John-Doe the Unguilded will be bringing to our raids when they both apply to our LFMs, then they're fooling themselves.

So; Where the hell are the outraged forum goers? After all; I can pretty much tell you that this tech is going to be used to exclude peeps based on gear, stats, build, ect.