wow...YOU GUYS ARE MISLEADING PEOPLE

[nbhs275]

12 Cha Base + 1 Level* + 3 Enhancement + 2 Tome + 2 Capstone = 20

*If making a casting-focused FvS, you probably want your Wisdom at 18. FvS only get 2 points of Wisdom in enhancements, so there's little point in putting all 5 points from levels into it. 4 points and 2 enhancement still gets you 24 base Wis, leaving 1 point to level out Charisma.

Disregard this for Humans and their Adaptability.

or +3 tomes...or +3 shroud items. If your going to max a stat, go ahead and max it. Skipping a point into cha is pointless.

[Weylan]

or +3 tomes...or +3 shroud items. If your going to max a stat, go ahead and max it. Skipping a point into cha is pointless.

Or +4 tomes. Thank you for your opinion, though.

[nbhs275]

Or +4 tomes. Thank you for your opinion, though.

hhm... 18 base + 3 tome +6 item +3 shroud item +2 enhn = 32...alot better then a 31. And if your arguement is a +4 tome...then my counterpoint is litany.. again gives an even number. Your really not going to get far thinking that 17 wis is somehow better then the full 18

[spifflove]

If you want a higher char play a drow

16
16
12
10
08 [need fop feat]
16

[Weylan]

Your really not going to get far thinking that 17 wis is somehow better then the full 18

Neither are you, arguing against something I never proposed.

[QuantumFX]

All of this item and tome talk for getting Charisma higher is fine for those of you in servers where you already have your 32 builds unlocked and shared bank accounts. But for those of us that started on Cannith I think getting +6 cha from items isnt all that plausible for a long while.

But you won't need that +6 CHA item until they start dropping like mad. (Levels 13-20)
10 Base, +3 Enhancements, +4 Eagles Splendor = 17 CHA. You don't get access to level 8 spells until level 16 on a FvS.

[wolfy42]

My FvS started with a 12 cha....and that has worked quite well. A lower cha could be done...but you have to work harder at it.

A 12 cha lets you avoid using a + cha item all together (even on Cannith) for quite a long time.

12 base gets you to level 6 without needing any boost.

AT lvl 6 +1 cha enhcnament from lvl 5 gets you to lvl 8.

At lvl 8 +1 cha enhancement from lvl 6 gets you to lvl 10.

At lvl 10 +1 cha enhancement gets you to lvl 12.

By lvl 12 you should have at least a +1 tome...and should not be that far away from getting a free +2 tome (if your running quests for favor on Cannith) or you can buy one. A +2 tome which you will get by lvl 16....will bring you all the way up to lvl 16 without a cha item at all equiped.

At that point you can either use a +3 cha tome......or just use a +cha item till you hit lvl 20 and get the +2 cha capstone bonus....which allows you to ditch the cha item and open up a slot.

So honestly 12 is really the way to go...anything else requires a higher tome (an 11 cha if you know you'll have a +3 tome..or a 10 if you know you'll have a +4 can work...by why use your resources on cha if you don't need to?).

So I strongly suggest most FvS's go with a 12 base cha. It's easy to keep cha high enough that way and at lvl 20...with just a +2 tome...which is cake....you have a high enough cha without any item equiped.

And you can level up much easier...without having to use multiple tomes along the way etc.

[nbhs275]

My FvS started with a 12 cha....and that has worked quite well. A lower cha could be done...but you have to work harder at it.

A 12 cha lets you avoid using a + cha item all together (even on Cannith) for quite a long time.

12 base gets you to level 6 without needing any boost.

AT lvl 6 +1 cha enhcnament from lvl 5 gets you to lvl 8.

At lvl 8 +1 cha enhancement from lvl 6 gets you to lvl 10.

At lvl 10 +1 cha enhancement gets you to lvl 12.

By lvl 12 you should have at least a +1 tome...and should not be that far away from getting a free +2 tome (if your running quests for favor on Cannith) or you can buy one. A +2 tome which you will get by lvl 16....will bring you all the way up to lvl 16 without a cha item at all equiped.

At that point you can either use a +3 cha tome......or just use a +cha item till you hit lvl 20 and get the +2 cha capstone bonus....which allows you to ditch the cha item and open up a slot.

So honestly 12 is really the way to go...anything else requires a higher tome (an 11 cha if you know you'll have a +3 tome..or a 10 if you know you'll have a +4 can work...by why use your resources on cha if you don't need to?).

So I strongly suggest most FvS's go with a 12 base cha. It's easy to keep cha high enough that way and at lvl 20...with just a +2 tome...which is cake....you have a high enough cha without any item equiped.

And you can level up much easier...without having to use multiple tomes along the way etc.

Eh, cha items might still be useful for the few sp and UMD..but good point.