Haste is slower?

[transtemporal]

No, its not your imagination OP, haste running speed is slower. I was gonna post a thread about this when I got to work, except mine was going to be titled "I would've gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you meddling kids".

This is the very first spell I cast when I logged in and I had to cast it a couple of times just to make sure it had taken. The pendant of time is slower too. Didn't actually test it against my 30% striders though.

Did this come up in Beta at all?

Now I wouldn't mind this so much except that it wasn't announced and theres no reasonable explanation for it (well, actually there is, but its a technical one and I'm gonna let Turbine bring it up).

What I didn't think of doing is buying some haste pots / fast travel pendant from the store and see which is faster. Possibly even take a fraps.

[Impaqt]

Nothing that has anything to do with this game is a "big deal", so I think we can toss that entire argument right out the window. Really, if we follow that line of thinking... c'mon.

It clearly factors into the level of fun that many, possibly most, perceive they are having. Most people play this game for the express purpose of having fun. In the relative context of "nothing in this game matters in RL so nothing in the game can be a big deal", the fun factor is indeed a big deal... that's why people are here...

Different people find different things abotu the game "Fun"

How fast my cahracter moves has a minimal impact on how much fun I'm persoanlly having.

If a 10% reduction in movement speed is enough to cause you to no longer have fiun playing this game then you were already pretty close to calling it quits anyway.

[Strakeln]

Different people find different things abotu the game "Fun"

How fast my cahracter moves has a minimal impact on how much fun I'm persoanlly having.

I am very glad this has not affected your gaming experience, Impaqt.

However, it is clear from this thread that you are in a significant minority. You can, and likely will, continue saying "it doesn't bother me!" until you are blue in the face... but you will not succeed in convincing others that it doesn't bother them.

If a 10% reduction in movement speed is enough to cause you to no longer have fiun playing this game then you were already pretty close to calling it quits anyway.

I didn't say or even imply that, but I appreciate your obviously intentional misinterpretation. When someone has reached the point of intentionally twisting the rather obvious meaning of someone else's post, it is clear they are rationing what little ammo they have remaining.

[Sohryu]

FWIW, me and the hubby just tested this, he ran a good bit ahead of me w/o haste on, I cast a haste on myself and ran after him and I was able to catch up. We were both wearing 30% striders. So while it may *seem* slower I'm calling shenanigans on the haste "nerf".

[Impaqt]

I am very glad this has not affected your gaming experience, Impaqt.

However, it is clear from this thread that you are in a significant minority. You can, and likely will, continue saying "it doesn't bother me!" until you are blue in the face... but you will not succeed in convincing others that it doesn't bother them.

How many people in this thread are "Against" me? 6.. 7??? Its the same folks over and over.. Seems to me the vast majoirity of people didnt even notice or dont care. Remeber when we found out about W/P? Or Transmuting? DOZENS of threads... Hundreds of complaints.... the people who dont see it as a problem are simply poorly represented inthis particular thread.

I didn't say or even imply that, but I appreciate your obviously intentional misinterpretation. When someone has reached the point of intentionally twisting the rather obvious meaning of someone else's post, it is clear they are rationing what little ammo they have remaining.

Why wouldI need ammo for anything? The change is done. Maybe its a bug.. Probobly its not.....

You can work within the game or not. I choose to adapt and move on.

[Riggs]

Was wondering why everyone seemed slower.

Turbine bought some nice goodwill suing Atari and stuff.

Boom - now its all gone with the bs from stealth nurfs and **** like making monsters 2 levels higher than before hit like 15 levels higher.

[Spisey]

Not sure it really matters whether it was fixed / nerfed. Adapt a bit and open yourself to some change. Obama was the first step! Now get used to haste changes!

[Trillea]

FWIW, me and the hubby just tested this, he ran a good bit ahead of me w/o haste on, I cast a haste on myself and ran after him and I was able to catch up. We were both wearing 30% striders. So while it may *seem* slower I'm calling shenanigans on the haste "nerf".

Were you a barb or monk and your hubby was not? If so you will catch him anyway. If he was a dwarf, he has slower speed as well.

[Oreg]

One more good reason to dump extend on my sorc if you ask me...

[Sohryu]

Were you a barb or monk and your hubby was not? If so you will catch him anyway. If he was a dwarf, he has slower speed as well.

He was a dwarven cleric and I was a drow wizard. I was not aware that dwarves were slower, we run through plenty of quests and explorer areas together (we tested this out in the desert) and he never has a problem keeping up if we are both hasted.

[Aspenor]

Not really a big deal, IMHO.

[Trillea]

He was a dwarven cleric and I was a drow wizard. I was not aware that dwarves were slower, we run through plenty of quests and explorer areas together (we tested this out in the desert) and he never has a problem keeping up if we are both hasted.

Dwarves are not a LOT slower, but they are slower. Maybe a 5% striding hit or so.

[Kraak]

According the compendium....

Haste doesn't give any run speed boost. Or perhaps it's a hidden effect..

http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Spell:Haste

Then the compendium has been changed. Haste previously read that it gave a 40% enhancement to run speed.

Post Script: And I particularly don't care for this change, much less the manner in which it was not presented. Doesn't make sense to have release notes if you're not going to publish obvious changes in them. Its not like people are not going to notice. Seems a little sheepish to me.

[sephiroth1084]

I'm very unhappy about this change/bug. It makes getting around the Market that much longer, which means it takes longer for people to get to questin', and makes some quests kind of frustrating (any with a short timer), as well as really slowing down loot runs.

If this was intentional, it should have been in the release notes. It's a big change and not saying anything is very underhanded. Regardless, a dev needs to step in and confirm or deny this, and let us know what's to be done.

[bandyman1]

What problem is that?

The poster that post was in response to, was stating that it was probably a reaction to arcanes in PuGs complaining of being treated as hastebots.

The 10% reduction in speed ain't going to change that. Peeps are still going to want their attack speed boost pretty much every combat, and to be quite honest, I know a lot of melees that use less than 30% striding because of gear slot considerations.

So....; It doesn't address the problem.

See; Reading comprehension is FUN!

[Aspenor]

Also, for what it's worth, it's not really a "10% reduction in run speed."

No striding is 100% run speed. Haste previously granted a 140% run speed, and now grants a 130% run speed.

Therefore, we now run 7.69230769230769230769230769231% slower.

[rest]

Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part, but it feels like haste has been returned to it's former glory with regard to run speed. Here's to hoping!

(Also the casting animation lag has mostly disappeared. I have yet to run out of my own haste circle all night.)