Level sigils ?

[Faelyndel]

So just to clarify something I read in another thread; You have to PAY for "level sigils" just to be able to level, as a F2P player? Seriously? I understand there are limits to free playing to make it worthwhile to be a VIP and i apologize if I sound like a whiny brat, but do we honestly have to pay to advance every four levels?

[oberon131313]

So just to clarify something I read in another thread; You have to PAY for "level sigils" just to be able to level, as a F2P player? Seriously? I understand there are limits to free playing to make it worthwhile to be a VIP and i apologize if I sound like a whiny brat, but do we honestly have to pay to advance every four levels?

no, you can also randomly get them at the end of quests, but no promises on how long it takes (some people on the beta server would have been level 5 or 6 before they got theirs)

[captain1z]

, but do we honestly have to pay to advance every four levels?

all it a leveling tax, if you dont want to pay you can hope you win the lottery.

[Faelyndel]

Interesting. I appreciate the fact that there's a way to get them without purchasing them, even if it's random. But hey, I get to play my favourite game without having to pay money I don't have to subscribe, so I can't complain

Now, are level sigils per character, per server or per account? Can I only level the character who finds/buys the sigil past level four or every character afterwards as well?

[oberon131313]

Interesting. I appreciate the fact that there's a way to get them without purchasing them, even if it's random. But hey, I get to play my favourite game without having to pay money I don't have to subscribe, so I can't complain

Now, are level sigils per character, per server or per account? Can I only level the character who finds/buys the sigil past level four or every character afterwards as well?

per character, and bound to that character. So all characters you make need to find one for themselves.

[knightgf]

So just to clarify something I read in another thread; You have to PAY for "level sigils" just to be able to level, as a F2P player? Seriously? I understand there are limits to free playing to make it worthwhile to be a VIP and i apologize if I sound like a whiny brat, but do we honestly have to pay to advance every four levels?

Its turbine's way of adding challenging concepts to F2P and encouraging you to either get a VIP subscription, buy a sigil from the store or grind for favor on various characters. It is impossible to avoid purchasing items from the Turbine Store: there is no way whatsoever to avoid that place unless you want to completely stop leveling. However, the good news is that it is entirely possible to play the whole game without spending a single penny on purchasing Turbine Points, but this will take a lot of time and skill to do. (Well, mostly time, but the more skill you have, the better!)

And some GREAT advice for you in using the Turbine store: NEVER purchase any cosmetics, potions or any other disposable items from the Turbine store as F2P, especially if you cannot use real-world cash to purchase points. And only buy leveling sigils for your characters if you plan to keep them as your 'main' characters (I.E.:Characters that you wont use to simply get points for favor). Otherwise, you will find it to be a waste and end up having to spend more time getting points.

[ArkoHighStar]

Interesting. I appreciate the fact that there's a way to get them without purchasing them, even if it's random. But hey, I get to play my favourite game without having to pay money I don't have to subscribe, so I can't complain

Now, are level sigils per character, per server or per account? Can I only level the character who finds/buys the sigil past level four or every character afterwards as well?

no its per character I believe

[Faelyndel]

I guess it makes sense that it's per character. It sucks, but it makes sense. Do you think it would be possible to get enough favor by the end of level four to equal enough TP to purchase the level sigil?

And on a similar note, would it be possible to earn enough favor by playing the game to equal enough TP to purchase some of these adventure packs? Or will I have to spend some money on adventure packs to enrich my playing experience and/or have access to enough quests to level?

[Lorien_the_First_One]

I guess it makes sense that it's per character. It sucks, but it makes sense. Do you think it would be possible to get enough favor by the end of level four to equal enough TP to purchase the level sigil?

And on a similar note, would it be possible to earn enough favor by playing the game to equal enough TP to purchase some of these adventure packs? Or will I have to spend some money on adventure packs to enrich my playing experience and/or have access to enough quests to level?

I think at some point you will need to buy a couple things. Plus you will need to buy at least 1 Turbine Point to fully unlock some important game features like /tell, in game email, the auction house, and to maximize the gold storage you are allowed.

[Angelus_dead]

I guess it makes sense that it's per character. It sucks, but it makes sense. Do you think it would be possible to get enough favor by the end of level four to equal enough TP to purchase the level sigil?

That is possible, but it would be a mistake, and you'd be better off spending those points on an adventure pack. Obtaining the first levelling sigil by grinding a 60-second quest is easy compared to earning that many points.

Or will I have to spend some money on adventure packs to enrich my playing experience and/or have access to enough quests to level?

Considering that the game goes up to level 20 and free quests stop at 12...

Even if you could find a way to proceed past 12 without adventure packs, why bother when there will be nothing to do?

[merrylady]

Its the game killer for me. I have several issues with it all so far (and its only day 1 lol) but that one is the one that does it for me.

There are 2 things I hate doing in games more than anything. One is grinding and the other is grinding. I refuse to do it. Not for favor to get the level sigil through the store, not to repeat dungeons/quests in the hopes that it might drop.

The adventure packs are another issue for me but I will never get that far. However, in my opinion, barring content is not going to be the smartest decision they made when they did this F2P thing.

That all being said I am having fun in the starter area and will get as far as I can get without falling prey to the grind. Most every one in there with me seems to be having fun as well however I have seen a few ppl today claim that they "were done" due to one issue or another. Anyway, I wish Turbine and DDO all the best and I hope this plan works for them. That its not "my cup of tea" doesnt make it a bad game or anything, I just wont pay to play a so called free game, and dont have the time to go "VIP".

Good luck all.

M

[TheBlueFox]

So please clarify. WHAT quests give off level sigils? all of them at a small percentage or just a specific few?

[Limmie]

Well, in beta I've played 3 characters: a favored soul to level 5 who found a sigil at level 3, a level 4 wizard with a sigil at level 4, and my "main" was a level 9 ranger/rogue who received a sigil in the very first quest and another sigil (a silver one?) at level 7.
Maybe I was just lucky, but even if the sigil hunting goes somewhat slower than this, it's still not much of an issue.

[TheBlueFox]

so it was just...any quest?

[Faya]

So far i would say any quest. Maybe get quests with more chests in it as they have by default a higher chance to drop sigils.

Faya

[MagicianBlade]

Its the game killer for me. I have several issues with it all so far (and its only day 1 lol) but that one is the one that does it for me.

There are 2 things I hate doing in games more than anything. One is grinding and the other is grinding. I refuse to do it. Not for favor to get the level sigil through the store, not to repeat dungeons/quests in the hopes that it might drop.

The adventure packs are another issue for me but I will never get that far. However, in my opinion, barring content is not going to be the smartest decision they made when they did this F2P thing.

That all being said I am having fun in the starter area and will get as far as I can get without falling prey to the grind. Most every one in there with me seems to be having fun as well however I have seen a few ppl today claim that they "were done" due to one issue or another. Anyway, I wish Turbine and DDO all the best and I hope this plan works for them. That its not "my cup of tea" doesnt make it a bad game or anything, I just wont pay to play a so called free game, and dont have the time to go "VIP".

Good luck all.

M

Grinding sucks, and it's why I haven't played any MMOs since they were called MUDs, until I got the invitation to the beta for this. However, there simply is not enough content even if you have everything, to get you through to level 20 (or even probably to 10) without doing a lot of repeats. And, also, since there's nothing to do once you achieve 20, what do you do after that?

You're not going to get away from it, but at least in DDO, it's a lot less repetitive. Although, frankly, I'll be on my fourth run on the first few quests, once I finally get logged in on Cannith, and I'm totally freaking bored to tears by doing them 3 times in 3 months .. but, if you get a good party to run with, or sometimes even if you get a terrible party to run with, it makes the repetition a lot more palatable. The game is also just way more fun at the higher levels, too.

I just can't figure out how people with 10 character slots find themselves in need of more, it's just unfathomable that you could ever repeat that starter quest that many times, without wanting to blow your own head off.

* I'd really hope that they'll add in a way to skip the tutorial quest, and go straight to Korthos.. because it's going to be a painful experience for me to run that one more time..

[7-day_Trial_Monkey]

So please clarify. WHAT quests give off level sigils? all of them at a small percentage or just a specific few?

Any quest.

For example, I got one offered as the reward from the quest giver, after finishing Information is Key on nomal difficulty.

That's a very easy quest to run through quickly, solo. I got it shortly after reaching level 4, so there was no delay in leveling for me.

[7-day_Trial_Monkey]

* I'd really hope that they'll add in a way to skip the tutorial quest, and go straight to Korthos.. because it's going to be a painful experience for me to run that one more time..

That option is there.

Just tell the guy you want to skip it! It's right there in his dialogue..

[adamkatt]

So just to clarify something I read in another thread; You have to PAY for "level sigils" just to be able to level, as a F2P player? Seriously? I understand there are limits to free playing to make it worthwhile to be a VIP and i apologize if I sound like a whiny brat, but do we honestly have to pay to advance every four levels?

Just got a lvl sigil from durks as a quest reward. Copper, now my cap was raised to 8 instead of 4.

But i was grinding for a muckbane...

[Faelyndel]

Well it's soounding like sigils aren't hard to find, so that's promising. Buying a bit of Turbine Points for adventure packs, being able to send tells etc. wouldn't be a problem in terms of money, I'm not completely broke , but I'm too young for a credit card so I'm not quite sure HOW I'm going to buy these points.

Information is Key, hm? If I remember correctly, that one's not too hard, so that's a good thing.