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    Default Evasive Melee FvS

    Didnt realize we had a FvS Group started yet.. Repost from "Character Builds Forum" Sue me.

    Self Buffing, Backup Healing, Dual Scimitaring Elf of the Undying Court!

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    Level 20 Lawful Good Elf Male
    (2 Monk / 18 Favored Soul)
    Hit Points: 500+
    20 HD
    10 Draconic
    144 L18 FVS
    16 L2 Monk
    100 Con Bonus
    22 Toughness
    60 Toughnes Enh
    20 Minos
    30 GLF
    45 Greensteel
    ---
    485 Hit Points
    20 Rage Spell/Potion
    20 Greenstell COn Enh
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    525

    Spell Points: 2000+

    BAB: 14/14/19/24
    14 BAB
    10 STR
    5 Weapon
    2 Elf Scimitar Enh
    1 FvS Feat
    --
    +32 Unbuffed
    -2/-2 TWF
    ----
    +30 Unbuffed Dual Weild Scimitars.
    +3 Dvine Favor
    +6 Divine Power (BAB Increase)
    +1 Rage Potion
    +1 Haste
    +4 GH
    ---
    +45 Self Buffed
    -5 Power Attack
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    +40


    Fortitude/Reflex/Will
    3/3/3 Monk 2
    11/11/11 FvS 18
    5/7/5 Attribute
    4/4/4 Resistance Item
    1/1/1 Resist ritual
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    24/27/24
    4/4/4 GH
    2/2/2 Luck
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    30/33/30



    Abilities
    (32 Point)
    {30}Strength 17+2 Tome +5 Levels +6Item
    {24}Dexterity 15 +2 Tome +1 Elf +6 Item
    {20}Constitution 12+2 Tome +6 Item
    {08}Intelligence 8 8
    {20}Wisdom 12+2 Tome +6 Item
    {22}Charisma 12+2 Tome +2 FvS +6 Item

    Tomes Used
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 1
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
    +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 1

    Skills:
    Max Concentration, Some points into Balance and Jump.

    Level 1 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
    Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting

    Level 2 (Favored Soul)
    Feat: (Diety) Favored by the Undying Court

    Level 3 (Favored Soul)
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell

    Level 4 (Favored Soul)

    Level 5 (Favored Soul)

    Level 6 (Favored Soul)
    Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Fire
    Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting

    Level 7 (Favored Soul)

    Level 8 (Favored Soul)

    Level 9 (Favored Soul)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting

    Level 10 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack

    Level 11 (Favored Soul)

    Level 12 (Favored Soul)
    Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Acid
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons

    Level 13 (Favored Soul)

    Level 14 (Favored Soul)

    Level 15 (Favored Soul)
    Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell

    Level 16 (Favored Soul)

    Level 17 (Favored Soul)
    Feat: (Favored Soul Bonus) Energy Resistance: Electricity

    Level 18 (Favored Soul)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting

    Level 19 (Favored Soul)

    Level 20 (Favored Soul)
    Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Velenar Elf Melee AAttack I
    Enhancement: Velenar Elf Melee Attack II
    Enhancement: Velenar Elf Melee Damage I
    Enhancement: Velenar Elf Melee Damage II
    Enhancement: Undying Call
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Scimitar Specialization I
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Scimitar Specialization II
    Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life II
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life III
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life I
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life II
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion IV
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma II
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness IV
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery I
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery II
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery III
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery IV

    Spell List:
    Level 1 (Monk)

    Level 2 (Favored Soul)
    Spell (1): Divine Favor
    Spell (1): Nightshield

    Level 3 (Favored Soul)

    Level 4 (Favored Soul)
    Spell (1): Shield of Faith

    Level 5 (Favored Soul)
    Spell (2): Resist Energy

    Level 6 (Favored Soul)
    Spell (2): Lesser Restoration

    Level 7 (Favored Soul)
    Spell (3): Prayer

    Level 8 (Favored Soul)
    Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
    Spell (3): Mass Aid

    Level 9 (Favored Soul)
    Spell (4): Divine Power

    Level 10 (Monk)

    Level 11 (Favored Soul)
    Spell (2): Remove Paralysis
    Spell (3): Protection From Energy
    Spell (4): Recitation

    Level 12 (Favored Soul)

    Level 13 (Favored Soul)
    Spell (3): Remove Curse
    Spell (4): Deathward
    Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds

    Level 14 (Favored Soul)
    Spell (6): Heal

    Level 15 (Favored Soul)
    Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
    Spell (5): Raise Dead
    Spell (6): Greater Dispel Magic

    Level 16 (Favored Soul)
    Spell (7): Protection From Elements, Mass

    Level 17 (Favored Soul)
    Spell (5): Break Enchantment
    Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds
    Spell (7): Mass Spell Resistance

    Level 18 (Favored Soul)
    Spell (8): Death Pact

    Level 19 (Favored Soul)
    Spell (7): Resurrection
    Spell (8): Mass Death Ward

    Level 20 (Favored Soul)
    Spell (9): Energy Drain


    Projected Item Set::

    Helm: Minos
    Necklace: Lorriks/Greensteel #2
    Trinket: Bloodstone/HoGF
    Cloak: Resistance
    Gloves: Dexterity
    Belt: Con
    Bracers: Strength
    Goggles: Tharnes
    Boots: Greensteel HP
    Ring #1: PaP of GFL
    Ring #2 Charisma
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    Didnt realize we had a FvS Group started yet.. Repost from "Character Builds Forum" Sue me.
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    Looks very similiar to the one I had originally planned and posted 6 weeks ago.
    I changed my melee build a bit, only wish I was at home to pull it up. From memory:

    18/2 Elf
    [26]14str +3tome+2rage+6item+1exceptional(ring or armor)
    [24]15dex +2tome+1enh+6item
    11con
    8int
    [32/37]17wis +5levels+2tome+2enh+6item +3exceptional+2stance(for casting only)
    [22]11cha +2tome+3enh+6item
    40 wis possible with litany and +4 tome, 38 decently obtainable(+3 tome)

    Feats:
    pa/toughness on Monk levels
    twf/itwf/gtwf/extend/quicken/maximize/spell pen

    To hit: 37
    14Bab
    8str
    3Divine favor
    6divine power
    1haste
    4GH
    5weapon
    1Fvs feat
    2Elf enh
    2Tumbleweed/new items
    -4twf
    -5pa

    Min II's to skip imp crit, with kamas for casting(make a +3) or vorpaling. 4 spell pen from max, with decent dcs in caster mode. With the exception of losing 8str(3base+5levels)this build should have the same damage output while also being able to cast offensively. Maybe it isn't what you are wanting, figured I would share the build with you either way. If you can make room for bracers and ring, AC isn't too bad either.

    AC: 55/57
    10base
    5deflection
    7dex
    12/14wis
    8bracers
    3natural
    1haste
    2recitation
    3ring
    4insight

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    I would probably swap out OTWF for maximize (or empower since FVS get enhancements to empower) for those times when you want you BB or mass heals to have a bit more bite. Given Divine Power will last almost 4.5 min at level 18, +to hit does not seem to be a big problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andreascott89 View Post
    I would probably swap out OTWF for maximize (or empower since FVS get enhancements to empower) for those times when you want you BB or mass heals to have a bit more bite. Given Divine Power will last almost 4.5 min at level 18, +to hit does not seem to be a big problem.

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    If I swap out a Feat for Maximize, it will probobly be Extend.

    This build wont carry Blade Barrier.
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    Putting the final touches on this before I roll tonight.

    Updated Starting Stats:
    STR 17
    DEX 18
    CON 12
    INT 8
    WIS 8
    CHR 11

    Holy Aura is still stacking so I'm going to carry that still, Other change will involve swapping Extend for Maximize or maybe Empower Healing for Mass Cures. I thinkthis will allow me to heal a bit more efficently when situations warrant it. Length of buffs should be fine without extend at end game considering my large spell point pool.


    Spell (1): Divine Favor
    Spell (1): Nightshield
    Spell (1): Obscuring Mist
    Spell (1): Shield of Faith

    Spell (2): Resist Energy
    Spell (2): Lesser Restoration
    Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
    Spell (2): Remove Paralysis

    Spell (3): Prayer
    Spell (3): Mass Aid
    Spell (3): Protection From Energy
    Spell (3): Remove Curse

    Spell (4): Divine Power
    Spell (4): Recitation
    Spell (4): Deathward
    Spell (4): Freedom of Movement

    Spell (5): True Seeing
    Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds
    Spell (5): Raise Dead
    Spell (5): Stalwart Pact

    Spell (6): Heal
    Spell (6): Greater Dispel Magic
    Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds

    Spell (7): Protection From Elements, Mass
    Spell (7): Mass Cure Serious Wounds
    Spell (7): Resurrection

    Spell (8): Holy Aura
    Spell (8): Death Pact

    Spell (9): Mass Heal

    Updated Enhancement List:
    Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
    Enhancement: Aerenal Elf Melee Attack I
    Enhancement: Aerenal Elf Melee Attack II
    Enhancement: Aerenal Elf Melee Damage I
    Enhancement: Aerenal Elf Melee Damage II
    Enhancement: Undying Call
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Scimitar Specialization I
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Scimitar Specialization II
    Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
    Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life I
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life II
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Life III
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life I
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Prayer of Incredible Life II
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic I
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic II
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic III
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Life Magic IV
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion I
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion II
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion III
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Energy of the Scion IV
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Charisma I
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness I
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness II
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness III
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Toughness IV
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery I
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery II
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery III
    Enhancement: Favored Soul Wand and Scroll Mastery IV
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    Holy aura is stacking how? I never used it so have little knowledge.

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    Question so.... ?

    What Level is it now? And is it working as planned?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyfiel View Post
    Holy aura is stacking how? I never used it so have little knowledge.
    It just stacks.. With everything....

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    What Level is it now? And is it working as planned?
    So far so good. Probobly not a good end game soloer due to having no offensive spellpower, but hes a really fun melee toon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    So far so good. Probobly not a good end game soloer due to having no offensive spellpower, but hes a really fun melee toon.
    Impaqt - What alignment is this drow elf, and do you intend to make this a "pure" FVS all the way to lvl 20 ? You took scimitars. Are you dual wielding ?

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    It's not a drow. It's a normal elf, using scimitars since they get racial and diety bonuses. It's evasive, which means 2 monk levels. And it even says in the OP.. Lawful Good. Basically everything you asked is answered within the posts already.

    My build is pretty similar to this, I went with more int, less dex, more con, 16 strength. If I was re-doing it, I'd prolly go with 12 con and 17 strength however.

    I also took Maximize and no Greater Dispel, dropped that for Blade Barrier. There are times when I really like being able to kite a bunch of stuff through it for clean up, or safer killing. Also enjoy maximized mass cures, though it'll drain you fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    Didnt realize we had a FvS Group started yet.. Repost from "Character Builds Forum" Sue me.

    Self Buffing, Backup Healing, Dual Scimitaring Elf of the Undying Court!

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    Level 20 Lawful Good Elf Male
    (2 Monk / 18 Favored Soul)
    Impaqt

    I have rolled a toon using this build but I had a question for you. Why did you take Monk and not Rogue for the Evasive part of the build ? What does Monk give you that Rogue does not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pappo View Post
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    I have rolled a toon using this build but I had a question for you. Why did you take Monk and not Rogue for the Evasive part of the build ? What does Monk give you that Rogue does not.
    2 Feats.
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    pretty **** close to what mine is...tho i have a base 14 con i believe....lol the missing 2 wisdom = 1 less AC and -1 will saves...im not to worried about it lol.

    Sad part about all this is we are reinforcing that 18x+2 monk is a winning formula.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    2 Feats.
    Do you mean the Toughness and Power Attack feats ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pappo View Post
    Do you mean the Toughness and Power Attack feats ?
    Yup, those would be the 2 I took during my monk levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impaqt View Post
    Yup, those would be the 2 I took during my monk levels.
    I plan to take those feats too. I am following your build as written. I just wanted to pick one and see how it turns out. Right now my toon is only level 2 and following your build, I have taken:
    Monk - Toughness
    Two Weapon Fighting
    Diety - Favored by the Undying Court (for scimitars)

    My current stats, with gear, are:
    STR 15 +2 ; DEX 16 +3 ;CON 14 +2 ;INT 10 +0 ;WIS 11 +0; CHA 12 +1

    I am running Waterworks now and seem to miss a lot when using the scimitars. Is that just because I am so low level (2) or because one of my stats is causing it.
    Right now I have a +1 Scimitar of Righteousness and a +1 Scimitar of Lesser Undead
    What can I do to improve the DPS when using scimitars ?

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    Don't dual wield until much later on, a shield and mithral fullplate/good breastplate will help you a lot more early game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pappo View Post
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    I am running Waterworks now and seem to miss a lot when using the scimitars.
    You could also use a simple slashing weapon like a sickle in your off-hand so you don't get the oversized TWF penalty. My warchanter swung a sickle of sypheros for about 8 levels until I found a neat-o kukri I liked better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thelmallen View Post
    You could also use a simple slashing weapon like a sickle in your off-hand so you don't get the oversized TWF penalty. My warchanter swung a sickle of sypheros for about 8 levels until I found a neat-o kukri I liked better.
    THis is a big one. I found Dual Weilding to be just fine early on. Yes, I had a little more str, but that shouldnt make a big difference. Go Light offhand or Go with Swords and board for a bit.

    ALso, Make sure your using Divine Favor and Bless! THis adds +2 to all your attack rolls. Really important low level.

    Dual Weiling Kamas at low levels might be an ption as well for an addition +1 from Flury of blows (Or the handwraps from Collborator)
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