Warchanter 2 & 3--Make your guess here!

[Ghirmeshk]

Great Ideas Mr. Cow & A Sheep. This bard conversation has gone to the farm.

[Artos_Fabril]

tier 2: +1/+1
tier 3: 5% attack speed, does not stack with tempest or fighter capstone

I don't see them gimping another class's ability like that, maybe a +5% insight bonus to attack speed (means a bard covers everything that Windstance gives monks, but they can switch stances in order to capitalize on that, instead of being screwed out of attack speed) or a moral bonus like MrCow suggested.

Request a feat: Quicken Song.

Or make it part of the bonus to WCIII, letting you spend more time fighting and less time buffing.

Bard Warchanter: Improved Ironskin Chant
Prereqs: Level 18 Bard, Bard Warchanter III, One of: Barbarian Damage Reduction, Barbarian Damage Reduction Boost I, Dwarven Shield Mastery I, Fighter Armor Class Boost I, Warforged Adamantine Plating, Warforged Damage Reduction I, Heavy Armor Proficiency, Tower Shield Proficiency, Least Dragonmark of Sentinal, Least Dragonmark of Warding, Resilience
Benefit: Your knowledge of deflection grows further. Your Ironskin Chant now grants DR 8/-.

Switch Warforged Damage Reduction I (enhancement) for Improved Damage Reduction (feat) to even it up a little bit, every other race has to either take a feat or splash a level of fighter/barb to get access the way you wrote this.

[Kielbasa]

Nice post Mr Cow. Only thing I dislike is the huge ap costs on your spellsinger ideas.

One thing I'd add to Spell Singer 3:

Wall of Sound- expend a use of bardic song to create a wall of sonic damage. Similar damage to wall of fire or blade barrier as well as having metamagics able to increase the damage.

Would be nice to give spellsingers a chance to occasionally drop one of these for nice damage in between buffing, healing and crowd controlling duties.

[Zachski]

Actually...

Virtuoso Enhancement: Dirge

Expend one Bardic Music to sing of a sad tale that brings pain to even the most foul demon's heart. Deals 1d6 per caster level of Sonic damage every second. Lasts 30 seconds or until song is cancelled. Prevents opponents from aggroing the bard during the duration, but after the song is over, all effected enemies receive an "Intimidate" effect towards the Bard for triple duration. Cannot be overwritten by Player Intimidate. Mindless Undead are immune to both effects.

How it works: It creates a visible field around the Bard (similar to the Arcane Skeleton's aura of pain) and keeps him playing constantly for 30 seconds. He can run around and swamp enemies in it. He's not able to attack like this. If the enemy is still alive, they WILL attack the Bard, and no one will be able to do anything about it.

The basic idea is that this is a crowd-killing song. You run in, help kill crowds with it, and such. If you dare to use it against a tougher monster, though, expect to find yourself in the pocket of a Cleric -- IF they're generous.

[MrCow]

Only thing I dislike is the huge ap costs on your spellsinger ideas.

If you take the minimum possible, Spellsinger III is equivalent to Virtuoso III (35 AP, 1 feat). Warchanter was AP cheaper, but feat costly for the base line of things (30 AP, 2 feats).

The things that makes Spellsinger look most costly is that it has a large set of "Choose one of:" along with the options of gaining "Improved Metamagic" like arcanes can pay for.

[Ghirmeshk]

If you take the minimum possible, Spellsinger III is equivalent to Virtuoso III (35 AP, 1 feat). Warchanter was AP cheaper, but feat costly for the base line of things (30 AP, 2 feats).

The things that makes Spellsinger look most costly is that it has a large set of "Choose one of:" along with the options of gaining "Improved Metamagic" like arcanes can pay for.

That seems fair.

[Valindria]

There is some discussion in the suggestion thread as well:

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=232730

[Ghirmeshk]

There is some discussion in the suggestion thread as well:

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=232730

Thank you for the link.

[A_Sheep2]

This bard conversation has gone to the farm.

I get it now!!!

[Ghirmeshk]

I get it now!!!