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    Default Hybrid Favored Soul: *THE* Ultra UnKillable Build

    This is a hypothetical and completely impractical build. The purpose of this build, is to point out the possibilities of the over-power Favored Soul class.

    This build started out as a "how high can the saves be?", but I slowly adapted it to a healing FvS that would actually, within reason, be playable.

    Key Points:
    • 511 Hitpoints!
    • Saves at almost 60!
    • 66 AC!
    • 2460 Spell Points!
    • Evasion!
    • Max/Empowered Blade Barriers
    • Death pact!


    it is *THE* end-all for ultra-survivability classes.:
    Introducing, *THE* Ultimate, and Ultra UnKillable Favored Soul

    Halfling
    16 FvS / 2 Pally / 2 Monk

    **End-End-End Game Stats:**

    14 +2 6 STR +6 (Item) +4 (Tome) -2 (Ocean Stance)
    30 +10 18 DEX +6 (item) +4 (tome) +2 (Halfling Enhancements)
    24 +7 14 CON +6 (item) +4 (tome)
    10 +0 8 INT +2 (Tome)
    24 +7 8 WIS +6 (item) +4 (tome) +3 (Enhance) +2 (Ocean Stance) +1 GS Exceptional
    38 +14 18 CHA +6 (item) +4 (tome) +3 (Enhance) +5 (Ranks) +2 Exceptional GS

    **LEVEL 20 SAVES**
    FORT/REF/WILL

    10/10/10 FvS 16
    3/0/0 Pally 2
    3/3/3 Monk 2
    1/1/1 Halfling
    7/0/0 CON Ability Mod
    0/10/0 DEX Ability Mod
    0/0/14 WILL Ability Mod (Force of Personality = use CHA mod)
    2/0/0 Feat: Great Fortitude
    0/2/0 Feat: Lightning Reflexes
    0/0/2 Feat: Iron Will
    1/1/1 Feat: Luck of Heroes
    14/14/14 Paladin Divine Grace
    1/1/1 Pally Aura 1
    2/2/2 Luck (head)
    5/5/5 Resistance
    1/1/1 Alchemical
    3/3/3 Halfling Enhancements
    2/2/2 Monk Ocean Stance
    4/4/4 GH

    59/ 59 / 63 !!!!!

    Possabilities for more Saves:

    2/2/2 Pally Aura III (from friend)
    4/4/4 Halfling Companion III
    3/3/3 Exceptional Saves GS
    2/2/2 Pally Saves Boost

    70/70/74 Hypothetically Possible


    **FEATS:**
    1: Toughness
    Monk 1: Great fortitude (+2 Fort)
    Monk 2: Iron Will = (+2 will)
    3: Lightning Reflexes: (+2 reflex)
    6: Luck of Heroes: (+1 all saves)
    9: Force of Personality (CHA for Will)
    12: Quicken
    15: Maximize
    18: Empower

    **ARMOR CLASS:**

    10 base
    10 dex
    7 wis
    1 size
    1 Monk
    5 protection
    8 armor bracers
    4 Insight
    1 ritual
    3 Chattering

    = 50 No Buffs (Beholder)

    3 barkskin pot
    1 haste
    2 recitation

    = 56 Basic Buffs (Self-Buffs)

    2 max barkskin
    4 inspire heroics
    4 pally Aura

    = 66 w/ perfect Raid Buffs

    **Hit Points**

    160: FvS 10/level?? x 16
    20: Paladin 10/lvl x 2
    12: Monk 6/lvl x2
    112: Con Mod
    20: Heroic Durability
    10: Draconic Vitality
    20: Minos Legens
    45: GS MIN II Item
    30: GFL
    22: Toughness
    20: Racial Toughness II
    40: FvS toughness IV

    Total: 511 HP!

    **Spell Points**

    Base: 1180
    Magical Training: 80
    CHA Mod (+14) : 350
    Archmagi: 400
    GS Exceptional: 300
    Enhancements: 150

    Total: 2460 +/- some
    That is a good amount more then even the best current-clerics have!

    Enhancements:
    FvS Tougness IV: 10
    Racial Toughness II: 3
    FvS WIS III: 12
    FvS CHA III: 12
    Halfling DEX II: 6
    Monk Ocean Stance I: 1
    FvS Spell Points IV: 10
    FvS Life Magic III: 6
    FvS Saves Boost I: 1
    Scroll Mastery I: 1
    Halfling Fort Save III: 6
    Halfling Reflex Save III: 6
    Halfling Will Save III: 6
    = 80 AP

    SKILLS: 2/Level
    Concentration
    Diplo

    GREENSTEEL ITEMS - you get the idea- something along the lines of:

    GS Kama:
    T1: +6 CON / healing amp 10%..(Pos)
    T2: Exceptional WIS 1 (earth)
    T3: Superior Devotion 6 (Pos)

    T1: +6 DEX (Air)
    T2: Whatever (Air)
    T3: Exceptional CHA 2 (AIR)

    GS Spell Point / CHA Skills Item
    GS Item: Min II

    To sum it up, this build is just looking at the potential of the new Favored Soul Class: Though this plan is nothing but a hypothetical build, as long as you avoid STR-Sapping Spells, this build has the potential to be Literally Unkillable!!!!.

    What do you think?
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    I think if you toned down the hypothetical part, you may have a really nice - and unkillable without the str sapping comment - build.

    The other thing is... what level do they get their abundant step-like ability? I honestly forget, but something in my head keeps saying "17". Personally speaking, that sounds like a great ability for a loot-n-scoot build... which is how I'd end up utilizing an unkillable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strakeln View Post
    I think if you toned down the hypothetical part, you may have a really nice - and unkillable without the str sapping comment - build.

    The other thing is... what level do they get their abundant step-like ability? I honestly forget, but something in my head keeps saying "17". Personally speaking, that sounds like a great ability for a loot-n-scoot build... which is how I'd end up utilizing an unkillable
    yes their abundant step-like ability is lvl 17


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    nvm


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    I thought "tarnation!"

    Then I realized that with Kamas your DPS is going to be so sh*tty that you won't be stupid enough to try to melee, so adapted it to "Good idea for a solid Blasting/Healing FvS at Endgame"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uska_d'Orien View Post
    yes their abundant step-like ability is lvl 17
    This means that this build will never get said ability.


    ...until 2040, when MOD 61 is released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlassCannon View Post
    This means that this build will never get said ability.


    ...until 2040, when MOD 61 is released.
    Proably take him as long to get that many +4 tomes as well.


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    Well, the build is dumb, could easily have more AC, better dc's or better melee, and still have the same survivability otherwise (fail on a 1 saves, and same hp's)


    And in no way does this prove that the Favored Soul class itself is overpowered. You can already make virtually unkillable cleric walking shrines - and we already know FS has more spell points.


    So ... what are you bringing to the table exactly? I mean, your build AC is GARBAGE, for example. 66 AC after raid buffs? Who's going to be raidbuffing this build that can do literally jack and ****? Your DC's are terrible (IE. your blade barriers new content are terrible). Your melee is terrible. Great, you can heal. You can't even DV with your jacked up charisma score.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldeneye View Post
    Key Points:
    • Max/Empowered Blade Barriers

    24 +7 8 WIS +6 (item) +4 (tome) +3 (Enhance) +2 (Ocean Stance) +1 GS Exceptional
    You can forget not just those zoober max/emp bbs, but every single DC spells with that wis.

    FS only gets wisdom II enhancements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enochroot View Post
    You can't even DV with your jacked up charisma score.


    Worthless.
    Um It's an FVS, they don't get DVs no matter what their CHA score is
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    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyCalico View Post
    Um It's an FVS, they don't get DVs no matter what their CHA score is

    That's my point.

    Notice I said, the build "can't"

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    Flip Flop CHR and Wisdom. At least then your spells will actually have a DC that makes em worth casting. I dont see any other way your actually going to kill stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enochroot View Post
    That's my point.

    Notice I said, the build "can't"

    Thanks for your input.
    No you said they could not with their low CHA score.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldeneye View Post
    This is a hypothetical and completely impractical build. The purpose of this build, is to point out the possibilities of the over-power Favored Soul class.


    What do you think?
    Says in the first line that the build is Impractical. Point was to show high saves/high hp/high sp and a workable AC as well. The op knows a build like this is just conceptual and would never really be playable and for what its worth I thought it was pretty cool.

    you get the long distance /clap in an otherwise silent auditoruim with great acustics. Well done sir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyCalico View Post
    No you said they could not with their low CHA score.
    Wrong he said he cant even DV with his jacked up CHA score which means that he cant take use an advantage of a high cha score like a cleric could, your the one not understanding. Reading it's fundamental. I understood what he meant and proably so did everyone else but you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by captain1z View Post
    Says in the first line that the build is Impractical. Point was to show high saves/high hp/high sp and a workable AC as well. The op knows a build like this is just conceptual and would never really be playable and for what its worth I thought it was pretty cool.

    you get the long distance /clap in an otherwise silent auditoruim with great acustics. Well done sir.
    I would applaud it if it was even remotely possible or useful
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uska_d'Orien View Post
    I would applaud it if it was even remotely possible or useful
    I wouldn't mind my heal bots in shroud having ungodly saves, evasion 500 hp and 2000+ spell points..
    Beaker is self-centered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaelis View Post
    I wouldn't mind my heal bots in shroud having ungodly saves, evasion 500 hp and 2000+ spell points..
    I wouldnt either but that build is impossible so you wont have it in your shroud reread where I said if it was remotely possible its not. 5 +4 tomes lets see how long it takes to even get 5+ tomes heck I dont have have 5 +2 on any build yet. he has his wis enhancement wrong its just not going to work.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Uska_d'Orien View Post
    I wouldnt either but that build is impossible so you wont have it in your shroud reread where I said if it was remotely possible its not. 5 +4 tomes lets see how long it takes to even get 5+ tomes heck I dont have have 5 +2 on any build yet. he has his wis enhancement wrong its just not going to work.
    The build will work fine without +4 tomes, you lose the min/max a little bit, but the +1 save etc over a +2 tome. +2's are not that hard to acquire in this game, bound or unbound. Even with striaght +2's if this was set up as a healing build I would take it over most 16(or in mod 9) 20 cleric, simply becasue he's not paper thin.
    Beaker is self-centered.
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    Best Piker: Beak: that son of a ***** always scew's me over in every quest im ever in with him. I honestly Don't know why i keep grouping with him!

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