32point - think they'll sellm or somethin?

[purple_paladin]

Im sure this has been asked many times. Ive heard something about the developers making some kind of respec thing for something or other... Any one think they are planning to make everyone 32 point builds, or allow people to buy/upgrade their 28pointers to 32 point characters for a price or something?

I know I'm just a whiny person who likes making alts all day long, and i don't think they have said anything about possibly selling/allowing 32 pointers, but if they don't give me some way to make a 32 point character i think I'm going to cry. without spending two weeks grinding the favor i mean... i have trouble playing a few days in a row much less a few weeks always focusing on favor and quests i don't know.

[Autolycus]

I certainly hope they make 32 point builds available to everyone. I'm a new casual player. I like to play tactically as a group and complete quests. Getting 1750 favor will probably take me forever.

Aside from my personal preferences, I think making 32 pointers available to everyone makes a lot of sense for the following reasons.

1. There is a lot of interest in getting them, as evidenced by posts on the forums. Their availability would eliminate the need to zerg to unlock them. If they aren't available, a lot of people will be zerging to unlock them. From what I've read on the forums, zerging causes/contributes to lag, thus the Dungeon Alert implementation.
2. Forcing new players to play 28 pointers may lead them to feeling like they're playing "second class characters". Not a good idea if you want them to stick around.
3. I've seen several posts stating the person will be grinding to 1750 and then rolling up a 32 point build. What's the point in forcing people to play a character they'll don't want and will dump as soon as they can unlock 32 pointers?
4. Casual players may decide they'll never get the required favor and find another game to play.

Just my 2 cents.

[Doomcrew]

Zerging doesn't contribute to lag. The knock on zerging
generally comes from those that don't want to play the
game at that pace. Lots of noise is made, the devs placate
those that feel the style of game they wish to play, is being
infringed upon. Dungeon alert is added, others now feel
that the game style they prefer to play, has been infringed
upon. As for the useless 28pt builds.... I still enjoy playing
mine.

Cheers

[Enduro]

I sure hope they don't make it available to everyone...I've only been playing for 2 weeks, and I worked my butt off to get my first 1750 character in those 2 weeks. For one, getting up to 1750 allows you to get a feel for the game, understand aspects about grouping, what quests to do and what works effectively for each quest, and just get a feel for what classes/races work well together. Don't think of your first character as a gimped one, this game is setup so that leveling doesn't take 3-6 months, it encourages multiple characters, multiple roles and the ability to have fun doing them all. Think of the first character u make as a tutorial and then when you do get to 32pt builds, your ready for everything the game can throw at you.

The key is joining groups and if there are not any available create your own, chances are some1 else needs what you need. You don't have to know what/where your going to lead a group, most likely some1 else in the group will know their way. Beauty of this game is 9/10 people you meet are nice/helpful compared to some mmo's out there

[Autolycus]

Zerging doesn't contribute to lag. The knock on zerging
generally comes from those that don't want to play the
game at that pace. Lots of noise is made, the devs placate
those that feel the style of game they wish to play, is being
infringed upon. Dungeon alert is added, others now feel
that the game style they prefer to play, has been infringed
upon. As for the useless 28pt builds.... I still enjoy playing
mine.

Cheers

Hi Doomcrew,

I'm new, so let me be clear.

I'm not saying zerging contributes to lag. I'm saying that in my attempt to become knowledgeable about the game, I've been trying to read as much as I can on the forums. While doing so, I've read in other posts that Turbine implemented DA because they thought zerging was contributing to lag.

I'm just saying that I think everyone should be able to play however they want. That includes zerging, non-zerging, 28 point builds, 32 point builds or whatever.

[Freeman]

I don't think they should sell 32pt builds in the store until there is a method(Such as respecs which are hopefully coming soon) for existing players to upgrade their 28pt characters to 32pt characters. To do otherwise would penalize any players that were playing from the first day of the game and didn't have the time to reroll every character created before 32pt builds were introduced.

[sirgog]

I don't think they should sell 32pt builds in the store until there is a method(Such as respecs which are hopefully coming soon) for existing players to upgrade their 28pt characters to 32pt characters. To do otherwise would penalize any players that were playing from the first day of the game and didn't have the time to reroll every character created before 32pt builds were introduced.

I'd kill for such a method to improve existing 28 pointers to 32s. Even if you had to earn 1750 favor on that particular toon to get the improvement.

It would mean I could start rolling alts on another server, without suffering the permanent, incurable half-a-negative-level 'newbie penalty' this game has.

* Half a negative level is an approximation of the severity of the penalty 28 point builds face. For some classes (Monks, Paladins and some multiclasses) it's much, much more (prob closer to two negative levels), for THF barbs and healbot clerics, it's much less,

[Autolycus]

I sure hope they don't make it available to everyone...I've only been playing for 2 weeks, and I worked my butt off to get my first 1750 character in those 2 weeks. For one, getting up to 1750 allows you to get a feel for the game, understand aspects about grouping, what quests to do and what works effectively for each quest, and just get a feel for what classes/races work well together. Don't think of your first character as a gimped one, this game is setup so that leveling doesn't take 3-6 months, it encourages multiple characters, multiple roles and the ability to have fun doing them all. Think of the first character u make as a tutorial and then when you do get to 32pt builds, your ready for everything the game can throw at you.

The key is joining groups and if there are not any available create your own, chances are some1 else needs what you need. You don't have to know what/where your going to lead a group, most likely some1 else in the group will know their way. Beauty of this game is 9/10 people you meet are nice/helpful compared to some mmo's out there

I've been playing for the last month and haven't even unlocked Drow yet. Just because you enjoy the style of play that lets you accumulate favor quickly, not everyone enjoys that style. And yes. I've joined all types of groups, zerging, non-zerging, etc. Fortunately, I have found a few people that like the same play style as myself. Unfortunately, our preferred play style is penalized in regards to quickly gaining favor.

[Autolycus]

I don't think they should sell 32pt builds in the store until there is a method(Such as respecs which are hopefully coming soon) for existing players to upgrade their 28pt characters to 32pt characters. To do otherwise would penalize any players that were playing from the first day of the game and didn't have the time to reroll every character created before 32pt builds were introduced.

Freeman, I agree, everyone should be able to create/upgrade to equal builds.

[Uska]

I am also against the selling of 32pt builds without an upgrade for characters who have earned 1750 but if they do sell it should be a single character the server unlock should ONLY come by favor

[purple_paladin]

I sure hope they don't make it available to everyone...I've only been playing for 2 weeks, and I worked my butt off to get my first 1750 character in those 2 weeks. For one, getting up to 1750 allows you to get a feel for the game, understand aspects about grouping, what quests to do and what works effectively for each quest, and just get a feel for what classes/races work well together. Don't think of your first character as a gimped one, this game is setup so that leveling doesn't take 3-6 months, it encourages multiple characters, multiple roles and the ability to have fun doing them all. Think of the first character u make as a tutorial and then when you do get to 32pt builds, your ready for everything the game can throw at you.

The key is joining groups and if there are not any available create your own, chances are some1 else needs what you need. You don't have to know what/where your going to lead a group, most likely some1 else in the group will know their way. Beauty of this game is 9/10 people you meet are nice/helpful compared to some mmo's out there

Ive been playing since the game came out and my highest lvl character is lvl 12. I know how to contribute to a group and have fun with the character that i play, but I just dont want to spend the time grinding to a random destination to get a certain achievement that doesnt matter to me. I know the quests and when to do them, I dont need a tutorial, the people like myself just dont want to grind through the game just to start over with what i wanted to play the game though with to start. My highest char has about 8-900 favor without trying to get favor, its easy to get, but why do i have to.

BLAHHHHH, i hate this game sometimes, but love it most of the time and even though it will become that much easier to get 1750 with the new quests, I still probly wont keep playing, ill just cancel my account and do what I currently enjoy doing anyway which is just reading the forums every few days and seeing the cool new bad ass characters people make and how they find ingenious ways to create the most pimp character ever. --- which i cant make without sprinting through quests I dont want to run when i feel week, and yes i know my characters are nearly as good as, and commonly better then the majority of the group based on my experiences and ability to play a great supportive contributing character in whatever it is my char is meant to do, blah now im ranting again

[Autolycus]

I am also against the selling of 32pt builds without an upgrade for characters who have earned 1750 but if they do sell it should be a single character the server unlock should ONLY come by favor

Why? Drow unlock or purchase is account wide. Warforged purchase is account wide. Favored soul is account wide. Why should 32pt builds be different?

[Uska]

Why? Drow unlock or purchase is account wide. Warforged purchase is account wide. Favored soul is account wide. Why should 32pt builds be different?

Ok to tell the truth I dont think they should sell any of them but think YOU SHOULD EARN IT honestly. hate all the johnny come lately's thinking they deserve something they dont.

[Quanefel]

Why? Drow unlock or purchase is account wide. Warforged purchase is account wide. Favored soul is account wide. Why should 32pt builds be different?

People who earn them do not get 1750 favor unlock account-wide.

[uhgungawa]

Will they sell 32 pointers? My guess is yes simply because it will generate more cash.

Now should they? No, it should be earned. When and if they ever get to the full respec, and you have unlocked 32 pointers, then you should be be able to respec that toon with a 32 point build. But this is just my feelings on it.

And favor unlockables should be account wide, not server only

[Waerlogan]

From a monetary standpoint it makes sense to sell 32pt builds. They could probably charge 5x what they charge for the Drow unlock and get it.

It would be like printing their own money plus help them keep the casual player who feels they will always be at a disadvantage to those that have the time to power their way to the favor unlock.

[EddieB_TBC]

I really hope they don't sell this outright, although in a sense they already do. Once you unlock 1750 on one server you can transfer the toon to another server and it will have the 32 point toons enabled. Of course it costs something like $25 to transfer a toon. It may be some time though before toon transfers are re-enabled since they seem to turn that service off for a couple months around any major update.

Hmm... I wonder if they would consider selling server transfers for TP?

[Bloodhaven]

If you don't have to work for it, it is not worth anything ..

[HaruhiSuzumiya]

Sometimes I feel like there isn't even a point in making a character yet in the first place because I don't want to have to unlock something just to do the same quests all over again with a better character.

[CSFurious]

if you are a veteran who plays on Cannith, i think you will get used to 28 points pretty fast because there are no 32 point builds

also, the no twinking is a plus, it actually refreshes the game