How to Cleric Hound

[Sweyn]

After seeing multipule failures, and a bunch of clerics wasting so much supplies and doing more than they need to, i figured i'd share the most efficient way to cleric hound.

When the tank goes in, you don't need 3 clerics healing him all at the same time. That is over healing and wasting scrolls. 1-2 is fine. Your cleric should beable to heal for 400+ (15+ lvl's) That means unless it is a fully raged WF barb with macho HP, you will top the tank off with a single heal. If you can't, you might be doing something wrong. I see clerics throwing scrolls/heals when the tank has 90-95% health!!! That is unneeded, throw a scroll if he is at 50%, Or, if it is a barb, you can throw a heal when he is at ~10-20%. That is getting the most effiecncy out of your heals.

When the dogs get charmed, don't start throwing mass heals. Again, if a dog is at 25%, you can top it off, wait til it is low, then throw a heal. It is more effecient than spamming mass heals, why? Mostly only 1 or 2 dogs take damage. Usually the one in the middle is the only one, the side dogs will take damage with Horrid Withing but thats it. It will be so much more effient that way.

I've soloed cleric this, and ive even seen someone solo cleric it on hard. You don't have to have an uber cleric to do it, you just need to have commen sense and know how to play. Even if your the only cleric, letting dogs die is unacceptable. (Unless beholders/reders are up and everyone is dying.. but thats usually a fail anyway)

[Aussieee]

Bah clerics I say go bards!

[Dimz]

After seeing multipule failures, and a bunch of clerics wasting so much supplies and doing more than they need to, i figured i'd share the most efficient way to cleric hound.

When the tank goes in, you don't need 3 clerics healing him all at the same time. That is over healing and wasting scrolls. 1-2 is fine. Your cleric should beable to heal for 400+ (15+ lvl's) That means unless it is a fully raged WF barb with macho HP, you will top the tank off with a single heal. If you can't, you might be doing something wrong. I see clerics throwing scrolls/heals when the tank has 90-95% health!!! That is unneeded, throw a scroll if he is at 50%, Or, if it is a barb, you can throw a heal when he is at ~10-20%. That is getting the most effiecncy out of your heals.

When the dogs get charmed, don't start throwing mass heals. Again, if a dog is at 25%, you can top it off, wait til it is low, then throw a heal. It is more effecient than spamming mass heals, why? Mostly only 1 or 2 dogs take damage. Usually the one in the middle is the only one, the side dogs will take damage with Horrid Withing but thats it. It will be so much more effient that way.

I've soloed cleric this, and ive even seen someone solo cleric it on hard. You don't have to have an uber cleric to do it, you just need to have commen sense and know how to play. Even if your the only cleric, letting dogs die is unacceptable. (Unless beholders/reders are up and everyone is dying.. but thats usually a fail anyway)

Mass heals are unneccessary on dogs in my opinion. I have solo cleric/short manned this just like you. I hardly ever use mass heals on my cleric and I have never seen an issue with it.

So your real issue is with bad players then. Don't falsely address the masses! Maybe yell at the puppies in Hound instead because they take too much damage.

[Sohryu]

I can't believe how hard people make this out to be.

All you have to do is heal a dog. It's really not that hard, yet people still mess it up.

If they are displaced and hasted and have bard songs, they really shouldn't be that hard to keep up. Alternate Heals and scrolls if they're taking more damage than usual.

[Enochroot]

I don't think generally people have a problem when all goes well, although some good points were made above. It's when things start to happen, for example:

- XXyzzzyx breaks free and goes after a cleric. I see a lot of clerics here start running. So dumb.
1) you take full damage
2) it does no good
3) it often ends up running the big dog over the other clerics/tank

JUST shield block and go through it. You are probably ALREADY dead. You most likely will have bees. Just absorb as much damage as possible. Clerics can easily shield block big dog as well as anyone else.


- 1 or 2 little dogs are on a cleric when tank has big dog/1-2 little dogs aggro. I often see the tank run over to "take" the little dog aggro. So dumb.
1) Often ends up getting everyone trampled, bringing big dog over to cleric
2) cleric can EASILY shield block or kite the little dog till charmer comes, just leave it be.
3) often this ends with xxyxxzzz switching aggro to clerics, bad times, refer to first point.


- Beholders wipe the party (as other posters indicate "often a wipe"). THIS is the single dumbest attitude in hounding.
1) beholders in there have about 158 hp (k, maybe a FEW more, but not much)
2) with SF trinket (very easy to obtain) a single melee should be able to wipe the floor with all of those beholders

[Doomcrew]

Meh, the puppies are noobs, if they would have splashed
1 level of monk, and had the right FE, this quest would be
over in a minute. Re-roll for the puppies.


Cheers

[DragonKiller]

Man thanks for all this. I was totally unaware on all my completions I wasn't doing it right! Thanks man! I'm enlightened now!


BTW, my fingers get tired so I must be pushing my mouse button wrong, how should I be doing that? Or better yet if you'd just come over and do it for me, that would be great. Thanks!!

[Lewcipher]

After seeing multipule failures, and a bunch of clerics wasting so much supplies and doing more than they need to, i figured i'd share the most efficient way to cleric hound.

When the tank goes in, you don't need 3 clerics healing him all at the same time. That is over healing and wasting scrolls. 1-2 is fine. Your cleric should beable to heal for 400+ (15+ lvl's) That means unless it is a fully raged WF barb with macho HP, you will top the tank off with a single heal. If you can't, you might be doing something wrong. I see clerics throwing scrolls/heals when the tank has 90-95% health!!! That is unneeded, throw a scroll if he is at 50%, Or, if it is a barb, you can throw a heal when he is at ~10-20%. That is getting the most effiecncy out of your heals.

When the dogs get charmed, don't start throwing mass heals. Again, if a dog is at 25%, you can top it off, wait til it is low, then throw a heal. It is more effecient than spamming mass heals, why? Mostly only 1 or 2 dogs take damage. Usually the one in the middle is the only one, the side dogs will take damage with Horrid Withing but thats it. It will be so much more effient that way.

I've soloed cleric this, and ive even seen someone solo cleric it on hard. You don't have to have an uber cleric to do it, you just need to have commen sense and know how to play. Even if your the only cleric, letting dogs die is unacceptable. (Unless beholders/reders are up and everyone is dying.. but thats usually a fail anyway)

Bah, you're doing it all wrong. Easiest method:

1. As soon as tank grabs aggro, run up and drop a max empowered blade barrier. Make sure you kite all the small dogs through it before the bees get you.
2. While kiting..make sure to ask the the wiz/sorc to drop a sleet storm on you. Sure makes it easier if you have FoM to run around and have everyone yell.
3. Once all the dogs are buffed and charmed, be sure to cast Break Enchantment followed by Greater Dispell. This is a crowd pleaser. When the bard and arcane re-buff, be sure to repeat. They love this, but only act like they're angry.

There ya go. Easy as 1, 2, and 3.

[Enochroot]

Man thanks for all this. I was totally unaware on all my completions I wasn't doing it right! Thanks man! I'm enlightened now!


BTW, my fingers get tired so I must be pushing my mouse button wrong, how should I be doing that? Or better yet if you'd just come over and do it for me, that would be great. Thanks!!

Since you think this thread is directed at you - you must be referring to the fact you were clericing the OP's failures.


So, glad the advice helped.

[Strakeln]

They should sell stones in the store

[Eurytos]

This thread is totally unnecessary.

If a cleric cannot heal dogs, the only solution is to delete said cleric and play another class.

[Raegoul]

Hi Welcome

[Emili]

Bloody people be clueless! Hound be but three steps on a cleric.
1. Zone in...
2. Loot when poor momma doggy be put down.
3. Demand caster provide GT ticket to portable hole or call him a gimped piker then to FO.

[gamblerjoe]

Bah, you're doing it all wrong. Easiest method:

1. As soon as tank grabs aggro, run up and drop a max empowered blade barrier. Make sure you kite all the small dogs through it before the bees get you.
2. While kiting..make sure to ask the the wiz/sorc to drop a sleet storm on you. Sure makes it easier if you have FoM to run around and have everyone yell.
3. Once all the dogs are buffed and charmed, be sure to cast Break Enchantment followed by Greater Dispell. This is a crowd pleaser. When the bard and arcane re-buff, be sure to repeat. They love this, but only act like they're angry.

There ya go. Easy as 1, 2, and 3.

youre forgetting the most important part, all the clerics and casters need to race to see who can fog the big dog first.

[Eurytos]

How to Cleric Hound: Don't bring a cleric.

Bah clerics I say go bards!

No kidding.

We did elite first and got it to 40% til I screwed up. Beholder had dispelled me earlier in the raid and I forgot to re-apply GH. I got feared and a dog went down seconds before she went vulnerable.

Re-entered on Hard, sleepy easy mode. Bummer, I wanted to finish what we started on elite.



Cleric shield with no clerics! Grats to Galakilz on Paladin shield!



Also got Tumbleweed, Ring of Thelis and Levikk's Defender.

If a cleric cannot heal dogs, the only solution is to delete said cleric and play another class.

[Aeneas]

This thread should be called "how to have 39 UMD".

[Eurytos]

I only have 36, 38 w/ competence at start, no cartouche, 7 finger gloves or shroud item,

[Twerpp]

I dont think theres anything wrong with keeping the dogs topped off. Things can go bad quickly sometimes it one less thing to worry about. If you want to use more SP go for it.

[flash145]

Personaly Sowan, I think this was a waste of digital space. Unless the cleric (or clerics) asks for funds to cover cost of keeping tank and/or dogs alive, its none of your freaking business how the cleric heals. The only caveat would be the cleric keeing the tank and then the dogs up to comlete the mission.

Kinda chafes my hide when a person thinks they know all and believes they should tell others how to do it. You may have solo healed Hound/VoD/Shroud and any other raid but, thats you. None of that gives you the right to tell others how to perform their class.

If you think the player could use some advise, ASK them first if they would like some feedback on thier style.

Now, if they complete the quest by blowing tons of resources then ask for donations, then be my guest to explain to said player why they don't deserve reimbursement.

[gamblerjoe]

Bloody people be clueless! Hound be but three steps on a cleric.
1. Zone in...
2. Loot when poor momma doggy be put down.
3. Demand caster provide GT ticket to portable hole or call him a gimped piker then to FO.

/qft