Devs, please follow your own rules and be consistent: remove political threads......

[Mhykke]

We now have 2 threads discussing political figures.

In the past, anything remotely to do with politics has been cut off before it could get going.

But for some reason, you see fit to allow a thread on a controversial political figure. Is it merely b/c he's from your home state? Is it b/c his politics closely mirrors a moderator's? Somehow I have a feeling if this were George HW Bush, or even Robert Byrd we were talking about, the threads would have been closed and forgotten.

I'm just asking for consistency from you. If you don't want political discussion, fine. If you do, that's fine too. All I know is if I wanted to talk politics, I'd go to an appropriate forum. I've always appreciated the DDO forums for allowing me the escape from the political discourse that I'm immersed in. Now, that has changed, in complete violation of your own rules.

Let's keep the forums apolitical. We had a good thing going, and save yourselves some headaches in the meantime.

[rimble]

I'd rather make a plea to the players not to bring that stuff here. 'Off-Topic Chat' or not.

[Aspenor]

I'm with Mhykke on this one. Whether it's about a person in politics, or a political topic, these aren't the forums for it.

[baddax]

po·lit·i·cal (p-lt-kl)
adj. 1. Of, relating to, or dealing with the structure or affairs of government, politics, or the state.
2. Relating to, involving, or characteristic of politics or politicians: "Calling a meeting is a political act in itself" (Daniel Goleman).
3. Relating to or involving acts regarded as damaging to a government or state: political crimes.
4. Interested or active in politics: I'm not a very political person.
5. Having or influenced by partisan interests: The court should never become a political institution.
6. Based on or motivated by partisan or self-serving objectives: a purely political decision.

[incontinetia]

Eraaa... i agree!

[Borror0]

While we're on that topic, I would like them to extend their policy to cover the continuous petty socialism rhetoric we see so often on these forums.

It never contributes to the discussion and would require infringing the guidelines to be refuted.

[Aspenor]

While we're on that topic, I would like them to extend their policy to cover the continuous petty socialism rhetoric we see so often on these forums.

It never contributes to the discussion and would require infringing the guidelines to be refuted.

What?! What did I miss?! I demand a link!

[bartcom2000]

The things that get squelched around here stink of both personal and Social bias and double standard mixed with a large pich of PC... I see people doing things in most threads with no consequence that get rapidly "squelched" when others do it... just sayin.... the forums = a High school, even at the baby sitter barney fife level...


GO TEAM!!

[Samadhi]

In the past, anything remotely to do with politics has been cut off before it could get going.

But for some reason, you see fit to allow a thread on a controversial political figure. Is it merely b/c he's from your home state? Is it b/c his politics closely mirrors a moderator's? Somehow I have a feeling if this were George HW Bush, or even Robert Byrd we were talking about, the threads would have been closed and forgotten.

Ya the bias present is getting pretty transparent. They have removed posts from 1 point of view at least three times without closing it; but have now closed the other one? Absurd. Get over yourselves and delete/close it all.

[Angelus_dead]

But for some reason, you see fit to allow a thread on a controversial political figure. Is it merely b/c he's from your home state? Is it b/c his politics closely mirrors a moderator's?

As is typical, immediately following the death of a prominent politician is the eulogy period, when members of both the allied and opposing party look for positive things to say about him.

Applauding the person at that time is not to be interpreted as endorsing his political beliefs; it's just empty platitudes.

For example, President Obama ordered two days of flags at half-staff in Kennedy's honor, which is common upon a death in congress. Nobody would claim that doing so is an abuse of executive authority to promote the Democratic platform.

[rnor6084]

In which state is Turbine based?? Im sure their all fans of the man.


Nuff said.

[Mhykke]

As is typical, immediately following the death of a prominent politician is the eulogy period, when members of both the allied and opposing party look for positive things to say about him.

Applauding the person at that time is not to be interpreted as endorsing his political beliefs; it's just empty platitudes.

For example, President Obama ordered two days of flags at half-staff in Kennedy's honor, which is common upon a death in congress. Nobody would claim that doing so is an abuse of executive authority to promote the Democratic platform.

That is quite correct. But that has nothing to do with the fact that if Leslie wanted to create a tribute to Kennedy, there are many places online where this sort of tribute can be made. Up until today, the DDO forums were not one of those places. Anything approaching politics has been closed before. Now, we're in a situation where discussing a politician, even post mortem, leads to political discussion, and one side has been systematically cleansed from the discussion.

At the end of the day, do we really need a tribute to a politician on the message board of an online fantasy game? And if we want to allow such things, then maybe it's a time to revist the "no politics" rule. All I'm asking is for a bit of consistency. The forums before were free of politics, and that was great. Now, apparently, things have changed.

[Daerius of the Blessed Blades]

Agreed. It all needs to go - nothing selective. A tribute is one thing, but once you have posted dozens of pictures and mentioned policy issues, it is no longer apolitical.

Make it all stop. Please.

[Borror0]

At the end of the day, do we really need a tribute to a politician on the message board of an online fantasy game?

At the end of the day, do we really need a tribute to a musician on the message board of an online fantasy game?

[Mhykke]

At the end of the day, do we really need a tribute to a musician on the message board of an online fantasy game?

Well, no, but the difference is, was there a rule stating "Discussion of musical topics is prohibited on the DDO forums"?

[Samadhi]

Agreed. It all needs to go - nothing selective. A tribute is one thing, but once you have posted dozens of pictures and mentioned policy issues, it is no longer apolitical.

Make it all stop. Please.

Ya the switchover to "praising his policies" was pretty quick and direct. So why is it still up...

[Damionic]

This is quite an intresting thread...mainly because differing forum opinions are a political act.

So under this logic everything in this or other forums posted should be band,or it will cause a debate (political stance on a topic)

In short = Everything is political

[Angelus_dead]

At the end of the day, do we really need a tribute to a musician on the message board of an online fantasy game?

Yes, and it's not as if Michael Jackson is a nonpolitical topic. Nothing is, really, because by definition politics can effect every human activity. Jackson is clearly related to topics of racism, intellectual property, criminal justice, and sexual consent. Obviously the admins have to draw the line someplace, and they took a pick.

Various people have been adding obviously political comments to that thread, and someone is deleting them. Tip: Within the eulogy period, any complaint regarding memorials for the deceased qualifies as a political objection.

It's not as if the admins for this forum are particularly fastidious or consistent either. I'm aware of other examples of blatant unfairness and dishonesty on their parts, but I can't mention it because that's a prohibited topic. Oh wait! That means that this complaint thread is also a prohibited topic...!

[shores11]

We now have 2 threads discussing political figures.

In the past, anything remotely to do with politics has been cut off before it could get going.

But for some reason, you see fit to allow a thread on a controversial political figure. Is it merely b/c he's from your home state? Is it b/c his politics closely mirrors a moderator's? Somehow I have a feeling if this were George HW Bush, or even Robert Byrd we were talking about, the threads would have been closed and forgotten.

I'm just asking for consistency from you. If you don't want political discussion, fine. If you do, that's fine too. All I know is if I wanted to talk politics, I'd go to an appropriate forum. I've always appreciated the DDO forums for allowing me the escape from the political discourse that I'm immersed in. Now, that has changed, in complete violation of your own rules.

Let's keep the forums apolitical. We had a good thing going, and save yourselves some headaches in the meantime.

What I noticed in the past regarding political discussion was that if you spoke against the developers/moderators bias then the thread was hacked immediately and you were assessed a warning and warning points. However if you were pro the moderator/developer then the thread was allowed to continue.

This was very evident after the last presidential election as it seems many folks at Turbine/DDO are pro Obama and did not have a problem with threads that were positive toward him.

[Daerius of the Blessed Blades]

Ya the switchover to "praising his policies" was pretty quick and direct. So why is it still up...

Agreed. I had no desire when I woke up this morning to be disrespectful to the Senator. But I was appalled at the way the moderators deleted selective posts critical of his policies, yet kept anything glowingly positive. Comments about his policies were ignored, unless they were negative - then they were locked or deleted. When it was stated that opposing thought would be allowed in another thread, I started one. It was shut down.

I want it ALL to go away! This is my escape from life and politics (of which I am VERY engaged), and the devs seem to be dancing around their own policy with what appears to be a bias.

I am not amused. Can we get back to whining about lag, delays, idiots in the Shroud and repetitive quests again?