+4 Wounding Silver LS of Pure Good

[Mts]

I'm considering parting with it for the right offer. Bypassing DR in the new mod, plus wounding? Oh hell yes.

[Samadhi]

It is very rare that I am impressed by a randomly looted weapon anymore, but **** man.

[Arkat]

I'm considering parting with it for the right offer. Bypassing DR in the new mod, plus wounding? Oh hell yes.

What's the ML and any RR?

What are you looking for Mt?

[Mts]

It is very rare that I am impressed by a randomly looted weapon anymore, but **** man.

Ya, I had the same impression when I looted it a couple of months ago. Not entirely sure if I'll let it go yet.

Arkat, it's ML14, no RR. I'm thinking this is more valuable than w/p rapiers pre mod 9.

[Aeneas]

Arkat, it's ML14, no RR. I'm thinking this is more valuable than w/p rapiers pre mod 9.

seriously? That's like saying a 3-iron is better than having a driver and a putter because if you really wanted to you could hit the ball long or putt with it, but not as well as if you just switched between the two.

It's a far cry from a min II with holy on it and nowhere near as effective as a good w/p rapier in situations where one of those two matter.

[Arkat]

Sorry Mt, I have to agree with Aeneas.

It's a nice weapon and all but it's not *that* nice.

I'd probably give you 3 or 4 Large Devil Scales for it but that would be about it.

[Oreg]

seriously? That's like saying a 3-iron is better than having a driver and a putter because if you really wanted to you could hit the ball long or putt with it, but not as well as if you just switched between the two.

It's a far cry from a min II with holy on it and nowhere near as effective as a good w/p rapier in situations where one of those two matter.

Agreed.

Good weapon but lets not go too far...

[Svetelana]

When F2P comes in.....sweet wep for a 14.....

Dig?

[Mts]

Ahhh yes, I always forget everyone way over-valued w/p rapiers pre-mod 9. I always put them at around 2mil plat or so. lol

Plat/Item wise, I would put this around the 2mil plat mark, or perhaps a full +2 tome set. Or some random set of Larges.

Still working on the valuation since I've never seen any other wep like it.

[Dark-Star]

I'd value it at one scale.

I can't picture many fights where other weapons wouldn't be better come mod 9.

[Aeneas]

"If i had an elf melee that didn't have a shroud weapon yet, i might not vendor it" is what i was trying to say - not "i think it's worth a few scales."

[Slink]

I think it might be higher than most are giving it credit.

Next mod, even red named will be succeptible to a few points of stat damage.
Add to that random mobs having lower hp totals but requiring DPS + the stun/autocrit when at 0 con.
In 2 weeks this will be one awesome weapon imo.
Everyone yells for debuffs on raid bosses and I imagine this type of weapon will be highly sought after.
Kinda like the +3 holy burst silver scimitar of enfeebling I happened across.
Not so nice now but next month it'll be nice to keep Sulu/Arri and any new chumps down 10pts str.
10 pts of con will help with casters facing higher save DC on some of the common debuffs.

Considering all the khopesh users out there I'd say someone might pay 1-1.5 mil next month.

Just my opinion though.

[Mts]

I think it might be higher than most are giving it credit.

Next mod, even red named will be succeptible to a few points of stat damage.
Add to that random mobs having lower hp totals but requiring DPS + the stun/autocrit when at 0 con.
In 2 weeks this will be one awesome weapon imo.
Everyone yells for debuffs on raid bosses and I imagine this type of weapon will be highly sought after.
Kinda like the +3 holy burst silver scimitar of enfeebling I happened across.
Not so nice now but next month it'll be nice to keep Sulu/Arri and any new chumps down 10pts str.
10 pts of con will help with casters facing higher save DC on some of the common debuffs.

Considering all the khopesh users out there I'd say someone might pay 1-1.5 mil next month.

Just my opinion though.

Exactly what I'm thinking. Great minds my friend... great minds.

[Delt]

I'd sell this for the same I'd sell a transmuter of PG...and as a longsword, that equals not much.

What mobs are some of you actually imagining this is worthwhile weapon on...? As a shroud beater, it's sub par. As a trash weapon, the dps is low and trying to stun/autocrit down a devil/orthon with a one-hand wounder is near ********, and the DR bypass is irrelevant.

I'm curious what you guys are seeing that makes this uber.

[Dark-Star]

Well on the surface it would seem that it's a good debuffer.

However, any run of the mill puncturing rapier with i:crit pierce will be better.

A wounder = 1 con damage per hit.

A puncturer = 3.5 average con damage on a crit x 30% crit chance or 1.05 con damage per hit.

Burst effects work regardless of even 100% fortification.

It's worth a scale to someone that wants to be able to debuff just a bit faster than a puncturer but is not pierce specced.

[Jay203]

Well on the surface it would seem that it's a good debuffer.

However, any run of the mill puncturing rapier with i:crit pierce will be better.

A wounder = 1 con damage per hit.

A puncturer = 3.5 average con damage on a crit x 30% crit chance or 1.05 con damage per hit.

Burst effects work regardless of even 100% fortification.

It's worth a scale to someone that wants to be able to debuff just a bit faster than a puncturer but is not pierce specced.

tell us that when you find puncturing LS
as it stands, wounding silver of pure good is as good as it gets for slashing

[Aeneas]

I think it might be higher than most are giving it credit.

Next mod, even red named will be succeptible to a few points of stat damage.

Yeah, 10 points. However, their hp's aren't like ours where we have a base 20 + our con modifier and level up die. Raid boss hp's are more like 80,000 + level x con modifier + level up die. Reducing a high level evil outsider 10 con points will mean next to nothing due to the way hp's are tabulated. Go hit a high level orthon for 10 points of con damage and let me know how much faster you dps him down to 0 after that. They usually still have 3/4's of a bar left when you w/p them to death.

Con damage on boss mobs will be a whisper on a scream, there's no reason you can't use a regular wounder for 1.5 attack chains and then switch to a good devil beating weapon instead of spending the entire time using a weapon that's mediocre at both. The real debuffs on bosses will be from str damage (-5 to hit and damage) and dex damage (-5 AC and reflex saves), not con (unless they break red and purple names again and we can FOD them).

[Slink]

[Dark-Star]

tell us that when you find puncturing LS
as it stands, wounding silver of pure good is as good as it gets for slashing

Who needs a slasher to do con damage? Again you can just use a rapier and save yourself a scale.

[Mts]

lol The wildly varying views on price are pretty amusing. I'll be interested to see how it pans out next week...