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    Community Member Jay203's Avatar
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    Default Need input on Enhancements choices

    so i'm making a frenzy tactician, 12/8 Fighter/Barbarian
    but AP usage is quite tight so i'm having a horrible time deciding what to take
    here's what i'm doing thus far:
    Kensai stuff
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    Enhancement: Fighter Attack Boost II : 3 AP
    Enhancement: Fighter Kensei II : 6 AP
    Enhancement: Fighter Quarterstaff Specialization I : 1 AP
    Enhancement: Kensei Quarterstaff Mastery II : 2 AP 
    Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II : 3 AP
    total: 15 APs
    15 APs spent thus far

    Barbarian Frenzy Beserker stuff:
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    Enhancementt: Barbarian Damage Boost II : 3 AP
    Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker I : 4 AP
    total: 7 APs
    22 APs spent

    Barbarian Rage stuff:
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    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II : 3 AP
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II : 3 AP
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II : 3 AP
    total: 9 APs
    31 APs spent

    Tactical stuff:
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    Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) IV : 10 AP
    Enhancement: Warforged Tactics III : 12 AP
    total: 22 APs
    53 APs spent

    Misc. stuff:
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    Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Reduction Boost III : 6 AP
    Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost I : 1 AP
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack II : 3 AP
    Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I : 2 AP
    Enhancement: Fighter Strength I : 2 AP
    Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I : 2 AP
    Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I : 2 AP
    Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II : 3 AP
    Enhancement: Warforged Great Weapon Aptitude III : 6 AP
    total: 27 APs
    80 APs spent

    with str of 18 base + 5 lvl + 1 enhancement + 6 item + 6 Barbarian rage + 6 power surge + 2 frenzy + 2 rage pot = 46 str ( + 23)
    stunning blow DC of 10 base + 23 str + 10 item + 4 fighter enhancement + 3 wf enhancement + 2 Kensai = 52 DC
    trip DC of 10 base + 23 str + 10 item + 3 wf enhancement + 2 kensai = 48 DC

    while i do have toughness, i need to get rid of stuff to put into toughness enhancement and/or more stats =\
    sigh~ APs are really tight these days


    PS: i know i don't have to get it that high, but the point to is to get it as high as i can
    Last edited by Jay203; 08-21-2009 at 01:18 AM.
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    Does the DR boost stack with the Docent of Defiance? If not you might consider dropping it and sticking with the Docent DR.

    Easiest I see is dropping the 3rd tier of Warforged Tactics (6 AP) That'll allow you to take the first 2 tiers of racial and barb toughness. that's +40 HP.

    Conversaly, getting another +2 con from Warforged racial and barbarian will cost you 8 AP and only gain 20 HP. Your rage will last longer tho, and +1 to fort save (don't think all too much helpful for you there.).

    So, maybe you can try something like this:

    Drop Barb DR Boost (6 AP)
    Drop WF Tactics III (6 AP)
    Drop WF Con +1 and Barb Con +1 (4 AP)

    Take WF Toughness I & II (3 AP)
    Take Fighter Toughness I & II (3 AP)
    Take Fighter Str II & III (10 AP)

    Your DCs stay the same (+1 str), and gain better sustained DPS. You lose 1 fort save, and some length of rages, but come out 20 HP ahead.
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    Oh, and... Quarterstaff? Wouldn't a maul be better for this build since a) no monk levels so don't need to be "centered" b) not a thief acrobat so no boost to atk speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuro_zero View Post
    Oh, and... Quarterstaff? Wouldn't a maul be better for this build since a) no monk levels so don't need to be "centered" b) not a thief acrobat so no boost to atk speed.
    ~is a DreamSpitter user~

    and for the str II and III for 10 APs
    wouldn't it be better to take the 6 APs from tatic and use 4 APs left over for something like power attack or toughness?
    i seriously doubt i'm going to need that +1 to hit as a Kensai

    i'm thinking i should drop the 3rd tier of warforged weapon aptitude since i get better chance at it with the 3 tiers of two handed fighting feats as well as both tiers of kensai on top of the barbarian frenzy beserker
    don't know how much do each add to it so i don't know what's the chance of procc'in right now =\

    also, i'm trying for the third tier of damage reduction boost for 7 clickies of 12/- dr per rest that i can count on rather than hoping for that defiance to proc =\
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    Yes I was thinking the same, dropping Fighter Strategy 4 and maybe even 3 and spending those 7 APs on Toughness and WF Power Attack III. Stunning blow DC at 50 is very impressive and should be plenty.

    The reason I was trying to work the last 2 fighter strength feats is because you strength breakdown puts you at a +23 modifier. Due to how THF works, getting 1.5x str bonus, odd modifiers get rounded down. Even modifier of +24 would add 2 to your damage while still maintaining your tactics DC. (+34.5 with +23 str mod rounded down to 34 versus +36 dmg with +24 str mod). But then you have room for exceptional str bonuses so perhaps those APs are spent elsewhere.

    Your points are valid, as additional levels of the power attack lines will add +2 to your dmg as well.

    Proc rate of the THF lines and enhancements will probably have to wait until Live for extensive testing. I'd stack as much as I could until we get some definite %'s.

    And true about the Docent - never seems to proc when you need it to but almost ALWAYS when you're trying to climb a ladder...
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