Being debuffed, ***...

[NeoSapience]

Sorry if this is a bit of a rant, but I'm fairly upset atm.

I play a nice monk/wizard build that I've been enjoying greatly, up until now. The whole idea behind the build was to just buff up and destroy things barbarian style.

Well, I went to the necropolis and promptly got myself debuffed, which lead to an immediate and highly aggravating death and has left me with a feeling of utter hopelessness.

I could understand if I was fighting some high level raid boss, but these were just normal level 8 mobs. What the heck. Is it just utterly pointless to use buffs or is this just some rare instance where my build is just worthless?

Please tell me this isn't going to be a regular event, because I'm thinking of just quitting right here and now.

[rimble]

Sorry if this is a bit of a rant, but I'm fairly upset atm.

I play a nice monk/wizard build that I've been enjoying greatly, up until now. The whole idea behind the build was to just buff up and destroy things barbarian style.

Well, I went to the necropolis and promptly got myself debuffed, which lead to an immediate and highly aggravating death and has left me with a feeling of utter hopelessness.

I could understand if I was fighting some high level raid boss, but these were just normal level 8 mobs. What the heck. Is it just utterly pointless to use buffs or is this just some rare instance where my build is just worthless?

Please tell me this isn't going to be a regular event, because I'm thinking of just quitting right here and now.

It's somewhat common, and one of those subtle things that often gets ignored when planning any sort of character that relies heavily on buffs to achieve their goals. It's even worse on a heavy multi-class splash since your buffs will be of a lower caster level, and thus easily dispelled. This is one of the reasons I like builds that have base undispellable scores for everything like Hit, Damage, and AC, and then tack on buffs in subsequent sections. It's easier to tell where they'll end up when the Dispel-bomb, or Beholder hits...

Oh, speaking of which...you'll have lots of fun with Beholders...

I wouldn't say it's a VERY regular event, but get used to avoiding (or suffering through) certain content...

[Visty]

later, gnolls debuff like hell, in shroud part3 youre perma debuffed, beholders everywhere, runes dispell you too, yeah its hard beeing a melee which buffs up himself
around lvl 8 it shouldnt be too common, though already those freaking priests in the bloddy crypt are casting dispell, so, yes, it will happen alot
its to make the game a challange

[Aerendil]

Hi, welcome to D&D.

Where you have the ability to buff yourself and debuff your opponents, and... *gasp* they can do the same.

Seriously. This is no different from pretty much any other MMO out there. Buffing / debuffing is a pretty typical aspect. And, as mentioned above, when you fight beholders and the like, you're going to be permanently debuffed.

In my opinion, enemies don't debuff *enough* in DDO.

In pen and paper, a well-timed Dispel Magic, Silence, or Blindness could make or break a battle.

PS - Wiz/Monk? :/

[Grimgore]

Yeah, now when disjunction hits and we start losing more than just buffs, it might be a little worse!

[rimble]

Yeah, now when disjunction hits and we start losing more than just buffs, it might be a little worse!

That's at least a Will save (well, theoretically), which I'm sure his Monk/Wiz will be pretty decent in...but his Caster Level is what is used to resist the Dispel, and that's not so good, nor can it be buffed like your Will save.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

CR8 mobs should have dispell, thats working as it should.

[Zenako]

Ok OP, a bit confused as well. You have a join date of over three years ago? and are just now seeing that mobs can dispel buffs? (I have to assume you are someone who joined at start, left and came back this summer I guess.)

However, the key can be found in your statement about what your expectations were. You wanted to take your hybrid Multiclass character, which has a ton of options available to it, amoung which is to melee buff the hell out itself and take things on "barbarian style". Which you can do.

BUT, while the Barbarian is good with his normal melee attributes and great when buffed, your build requires the buffs to be good/great and will suffer without them. While not a constant happenstance, getting hit with dispels or debuffs does happen, and as others mentioned is why some builders emphasize their stats and abilities in the undispellable range, not with all buffs cooking. So that is the price you pay for the added features of the Hybrid, a certain vulnerability to getting reduced to "normal" when in a fight.

[BlackSteel]

its a valid strategy for pcs and monsters alike. altho for pcs its normally not worthwhile to dispell a monsters buffs, but it can be worthwhile to get rid of their persistent AoE's like blade barrier or fog.

its not common enough to destroy your build. but there are encounters where spending alot of spell points on buffs can be wasteful. any quest with a beholder has a strong chance of dispelling you, and a small number of other quests have spell casters that like to spam it.