Clerics low on mana...

[Talon_Moonshadow]

I haven't used a healers kit since like Mod 4

Another pet peave of mine is when my cleric is incapped and bleeding to death, the rest of the party just stands around and watches me.

(even worse is when they just run off and leave me there)

[spyderwolf]

lol set a snare trap with a bottle of Jack daniels and a shiny pink weapon and you might catch one of my clerics

kinky. so drinks and toys then huh? hehe

[Quikster]

...........(even worse is when they just run off and leave me there)

Guilty

[Kalari]

kinky. so drinks and toys then huh? hehe

lol you are so getting rep for that one once I can give out more

[Delt]

Getting the SF necklace is not that hard. I have it with at least level 2 (5 charges) on like 17 toons.

I never said it's hard, I said it's annoying (for me) and obscure (for the average player). I *could* keep my eye on the LFM panel to pike along a loot run on my non-casters, I *could* go beggin for an opener in guild/LFM, I *could* just mostly solo the chain (can hirelings pull the locked levers now?)...but I usually don't want to.

I don't expect others to do what I'm not willing to do. I don't see any excuse for pots though...unless you are brand new (and unguilded) or simply screwed up and forgot to restock.

[Lorichie]

Another pet peave of mine is when my cleric is incapped and bleeding to death, the rest of the party just stands around and watches me.

(even worse is when they just run off and leave me there)

I think this has only happened to me a handful of times and i think i can say quite accurately that everyone else will agree with me when i say, the rest of the group will be long dead before i get into that situation again lol.

R

[Solmage]

I never said it's hard, I said it's annoying (for me) and obscure (for the average player). I *could* keep my eye on the LFM panel to pike along a loot run on my non-casters, I *could* go beggin for an opener in guild/LFM, I *could* just mostly solo the chain (can hirelings pull the locked levers now?)...but I usually don't want to.

I don't expect others to do what I'm not willing to do. I don't see any excuse for pots though...unless you are brand new (and unguilded) or simply screwed up and forgot to restock.

You don't need to do the chain. You only need to do the last 4 quests, and none of those require more than 1 person. I soloed them with my caster, and while annoying little buggers, they're not hard per say, just aggravating.

After that you can open the crypt whenever you want to. Also, if anyone needs the crypt opened I'd be glad to do so for them, although I won't have time to run it, I can usually find the 5 mins between quests to switch to open it.

[Solmage]

Another pet peave of mine is when my cleric is incapped and bleeding to death, the rest of the party just stands around and watches me.

(even worse is when they just run off and leave me there)

That's horrible! Instead, I would ask you how many points you have left, and let's say you mention you're at -6 I'd start chanting, "seven.........eight.......nine......."

At -9 I might decide to toss you a GH and restore you back to health after I finish chuckling =)

[Phidius]

You don't need to do the chain. You only need to do the last 4 quests, and none of those require more than 1 person. I soloed them with my caster, and while annoying little buggers, they're not hard per say, just aggravating.

After that you can open the crypt whenever you want to. Also, if anyone needs the crypt opened I'd be glad to do so for them, although I won't have time to run it, I can usually find the 5 mins between quests to switch to open it.

How do you pass the gear through the bars in the Tomb of the Forbidden? I've used Hirelings to pull levers in other quests (like the Shadow series), but didn't even try Hirelings in the Forbidden 'cause I figured I couldn't get them to trade the gear back to me if the timing was off...

[kinar]

The only excuse that justifies the cleric in this case is if he is a newb (notice I didn't say Noob) with no resources from other characters.

Restoration should NEVER take a cleric's mana. None of my clerics (4 of them) ever mems restoration spells. Carry pots (not wands) of lesser restore and scrolls of the resto and gtr resto. basically ANYTHING that doesn't have a spell DC or an effect based on caster level should be cast from scrolls if available. Even all of my raise dead and resurection spells come from scrolls.

but in the situation at hand (where the cleric was unprepared), he made the right decision. even if he had made the other decision, it STILL would have been the right decision. As a cleric, he is in the best position to decide who needs what and who gets what benefits from his spells. simple as that.

[Delt]

How do you pass the gear through the bars in the Tomb of the Forbidden? I've used Hirelings to pull levers in other quests (like the Shadow series), but didn't even try Hirelings in the Forbidden 'cause I figured I couldn't get them to trade the gear back to me if the timing was off...

As I mentioned (and I guess Sol missed) that's the only portion not soloable. Even if you unlock the the levers (negating the need to trade the gear), hirelings couldn't use those levers. I say "couldn't" because I do vaguely remember devs releasing notes saying Hirelings had their AI for pulling levers improved. Whether they addressed that issue or not, I don't know.

[Phidius]

As I mentioned (and I guess Sol missed) that's the only portion not soloable. Even if you unlock the the levers (negating the need to trade the gear), hirelings couldn't use those levers. I say "couldn't" because I do vaguely remember devs releasing notes saying Hirelings had their AI for pulling levers improved. Whether they addressed that issue or not, I don't know.

That's what I thought too, but I was hoping Sol knew something I didn't. I learn something new every day, after all - I'm not too proud to admit it

Even if they upgraded the AI to the level of your average PUGger, I think they'd need to add the ability to rummage through your Hireling's backpack to get the gear back... assuming, of course, you could even trade the gear to them in the first place.

I must admit that I don't usually socialize with my hirelings... I summon them, have them pull a lever, then promptly dismiss them. I should probably drive them home afterwards, at least. Maybe call them the next morning too

[Quikster]

That's what I thought too, but I was hoping Sol knew something I didn't. I learn something new every day, after all - I'm not too proud to admit it

Even if they upgraded the AI to the level of your average PUGger, I think they'd need to add the ability to rummage through your Hireling's backpack to get the gear back... assuming, of course, you could even trade the gear to them in the first place.

I must admit that I don't usually socialize with my hirelings... I summon them, have them pull a lever, then promptly dismiss them. I should probably drive them home afterwards, at least. Maybe call them the next morning too

Yeah i think the main sticking point is getting the gear to and fro. Just get some newb cleric that doesnt have lessor restore to cast on you to pull the lever

[Fenrisulven6]

Yes, it sounds like it, but it's certainly not clear, and I wanted to bash Fenris for supposedly knowing what he's talking about when he couldn't even spot the obvious inconsistency in the OP. The second poster in thread went with restoration scrolls, others went with pots (ie. lesser restoration) - and who really knows.

The OP said:

The cleric replied that he was saving the rest of him mana for healing hit points and that maybe said member should start carrying pots of restore on him.

And don't flatter yourself. If you ever get under my skin, I'll simply get a new flea collar. Amateur.

[Quikster]

The OP said:



And don't flatter yourself. If you ever get under my skin, I'll simply get a new flea collar. Amateur.

Dips work better for certain fast breeding pests

[smatt]

Its in poor taste to expect the cleric to buy everything to fix your woe's

Who cares.... Well maybe if the cleric had throw a deathward, Oh it was a beholder... Or maye the melees could've gotten a Silver Flamenecklace, or maybe 1 neg level doesn't really matter THAT much.... But since the cleric said carry pots, it's a pparent he didn't have a clue yet, so maybe a hint or 2 abotu what cures what and waht MOST clerics carry. I don't really care to be honest.... I help people out no matter what toon I'm playing often tossing heals/restoration scrolls from my UMD tank, or my Wizzy, let alone Cleric.... A little bit of plat is meaningless when even at low levels MOST players have enough to cover a coupel thousand.

Lame discussion, unless it includes tips to players on how to avoid such things.... And what they should be carrying themselves...

A well buffed, well taken care of party is a cheaper party to heal...... People also tend to play better when they're happy and not all ****y...

[rest]

I enjoy running Cursed Crypt on my caster. So if anyone is looking to upgrade their necklace, let me know

[Kalari]

A well buffed, well taken care of party is a cheaper party to heal...... People also tend to play better when they're happy and not all ****y...

True but my cleric is still looking for that buff that prevents stupid playing. You know the one that shows them "yes you have buffs but that doesnt mean your invincible.."

[Solmage]

How do you pass the gear through the bars in the Tomb of the Forbidden? I've used Hirelings to pull levers in other quests (like the Shadow series), but didn't even try Hirelings in the Forbidden 'cause I figured I couldn't get them to trade the gear back to me if the timing was off...

As I mentioned (and I guess Sol missed) that's the only portion not soloable. Even if you unlock the the levers (negating the need to trade the gear

Bingo.

That's what I thought too, but I was hoping Sol knew something I didn't.

Sort of.

What *I* didn't know is that it didn't work in live. (Went to test it because this made me wonder ) It does however work just fine in Lamania. However, the hireling in question still needs to survive the battle "on their side" unless you want to wait a while - I recommend a nicely buffed WF caster so he can self heal and nuke. Just set him to aggressive once he pulls his switch.

Still, how hard can it be to get a friend to help you pull 2 switches in 5 minutes

[vyvy3369]

...It does however work just fine in Lamania. However, the hireling in question...Still, how hard can it be to get a friend to help you pull 2 switches in 5 minutes

Wait a second...Hirelings can hire Hirelings? And they pull levers now? I think Agamon owes me some money!