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    Quote Originally Posted by grodon9999 View Post
    Yes, I'd LOVE if a spell caster DPS estimator was available. i think only an idiot would refute that casters aren't top DPS right now.

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    Me and Yar actually had a caster DPS calculator established and fully operational, however, we decided to make it more fancy by coding in some automatic spell sequences for optimal DPS. We came quite far but never finished it, so atm it is kinda useless. I'll see if I can dig up an old version when I get home from England.

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    I have it ready, but unfortunally I don't have access to my stationary computer (which has the file), so I am unable to upload it. Won't be able till the 12'th of december at the earliest, probably a bit later.

    Though, that version is without the proper attackspeed for supreme cleaving mid chains for barbarians, since no one has really posted any in depth numbers of that attackspeed.
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    I don't know if you saw it, but Consumer started a thread that is at least a start for Supreme Cleave twitching.

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    Update 2.2 is up. It includes correct values for damage boost and among other things. But please note that
    I did not have enough time to change some of the numbers in there. (Perticularly half-orc non-barbarians). So their set DPS won't be correct. You need to change the variables so they're correct in order to get the correct DPS. I'm thinking about the Str, and the racial bonus damage from h-orc (I gave pretty much everyone half-elf as race, for highest DPS; so they should have damage boost maxed). The same applies for SA, if you have rogue dilly, which you need you put in yourself.

    Also note, I do not have 100% accurate info in cleave-spam barbarians, so they cannot choose that mode for attacking in the calc currently. If I were to get really accurate numbers for that as well, I would put it in. But for now, it'll have to do with THf or thf-twitch. The numbers from Consumer is a great start, but would love some confirmation and even more accurate numbers (not just an end attackspeed, a calculation for it), before I dedicate a lot of time implementing it.
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    Omg A_O, just as i've nearly finished adapting 2.1 version for U12 for my toons...

    Hahaha, thanks a bunch and i'm already downloading it to test it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brzytki View Post
    Omg A_O, just as i've nearly finished adapting 2.1 version for U12 for my toons...

    Hahaha, thanks a bunch and i'm already downloading it to test it.
    Hehe, sorry for it being so late. Busy with Christmas stuff and all. Not to mention studies.

    I updated it again slightly, and fixed most of the builds in there. But please note that some builds might still have some inaccuracies, because I didn't look at each str calc thoroughly, I simply lowered it by 4 for each half-orc I made into half-elf.

    And all the builds still have Mineral II weapons as pre-set, while they really should have lit 2, with an air/air/air offhand. Or holy burst of greater banes. Since these are the equivalents (grind-wise) of an esos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absolute-Omniscience View Post
    Hehe, sorry for it being so late. Busy with Christmas stuff and all. Not to mention studies.
    Woot. A nice Christmas present from you to all of us. Thank you and a Merry Christmas!
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    The Ranger 20 entry is bugged, the HV damage boost entry doesn't work on that one for seom reason.

    The HV boosts also affect sneak attack, I don't see this working in the calc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grodon9999 View Post
    The Ranger 20 entry is bugged, the HV damage boost entry doesn't work on that one for seom reason.

    The HV boosts also affect sneak attack, I don't see this working in the calc.
    Oh, I'll fix the ranger one asap.

    THe HV boost should affect SA, it's just under the tab below. I'm not 100% certain I fixed for everyone, but I'm 99%.

    Taking a look on that tomorrow or tonight. Cheers for the feedback.
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    I can confirm that HV doesn't affect SA in your calc when it should. It affects base, then there is the SA tab which remains unchanged and next one is the effects tab where it all is added together. You can easily see this when you turn "show relations" on in OpenOffice or just put zeros in every cell except one in each section.

    I'm really glad you added SoS but it should be in the Activation and Feats section as well cause it has around 2 sec activation time.

    Also, didn't have time to check it but you've put in almost every build damage boost and haste boost. Is the calc programmed to discern if a build can use them at the same time (HV) or has to chain them (class damage boost, ie haste boosts first and then damage boost if still has time)?
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    Adding Divine might LOWERS DPS. This a bug?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grodon9999 View Post
    Adding Divine might LOWERS DPS. This a bug?
    From what I've read, because of the extremely long activation time, using divine might in the middle of combat actually does lower your DPS. So the only good time to use it is right before entering combat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krelar View Post
    From what I've read, because of the extremely long activation time, using divine might in the middle of combat actually does lower your DPS. So the only good time to use it is right before entering combat.
    I think I have a capped Cleric that can disagree with this.

    But he's a very rare exception to this general *rule* of DM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krelar View Post
    From what I've read, because of the extremely long activation time, using divine might in the middle of combat actually does lower your DPS. So the only good time to use it is right before entering combat.
    This pretty much. If you've only got 1 or even 2 ranks in DM it actually lowers your DPS if you use it while bashing. However, if you assume that you cast it before running in, and the fight is shorter than its duration, it will of course always increase your DPS.

    You can manually edit it by looking in the "attacks lost due to activations" row, and removing the DM If condition or setting it as 0.


    EDIT: also, the lower damage you have initially, the bigger chance you have of DM always increasing your DPS. Say if you do 2 damage, and DM gives you +2 damage, then you effectively gets double damage and the only penalty is losing a second or two. Whilst if you do 10000 damage a swing and it adds +2, the 2 seconds will cost much more than the 2 damage will give you.
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    I cant open the file.
    Yes i have the newest version of Open Office.
    am i doing something wrong?

    Also bump

    EDIT: For some reason it worked the 5' time i downloaded the file... well well
    Thanks for a awesome DPS calculator!
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    just curious in our base damage calcs for barb thf-slow and barb thf-slow twich all the numbers are the same but total base for slow shows 132.42 and slow twich total is only 113.5?
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    MMh... is it only me or does the DL-Link not work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bechtinger View Post
    MMh... is it only me or does the DL-Link not work?
    Yeah, broken for me. I'm guessing they are trying to work on a new version?
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    For now the development on the calc has been put on hold. Haven't played DDO for a while and won't publish a new version till I'm back playing and gotten used to all the new epic stuff. It'll probably be a while, unfortunately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absolute-Omniscience View Post
    For now the development on the calc has been put on hold. Haven't played DDO for a while and won't publish a new version till I'm back playing and gotten used to all the new epic stuff. It'll probably be a while, unfortunately.
    Probably best to wait 3-6 months, until they iron out many of the bugs. Plus the forthcoming enhancement system is likely to change things as well.

    However, the old spreadsheet may be useful to people if it is used with a disclaimer. Would be nice if the link still worked.
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    Any chance of getting this updated to include the ED stuff or is that just too much to try and figure out?
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