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    Default Fighter Alignment?

    All good to go on everything else, but what is optimal for this?

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    Well good for using pure good items chaotic might be good then you can use armor bracers from deleras, I would say good, but then lawful/chaotic/neutral all have pluses and minuses.


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    Unless you think the shroud weapons will always be the best in the game you should go lawful good. Or get alot of UMD
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    build for umd and it doesnt really matter at end game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baddax View Post
    build for umd and it doesnt really matter at end game.
    if i'm not mistaken, next mod requires the umd score to alway be equal or exceeding of the item requirement. any moment umd drops below the number, the item immediately becomes unequipped. this can result in a potential problem for cross classed classes with low cha. also, there are some gear that cannot be bypassed by umd, ie ring of ancestors

    more importantly, if you are going to multiclass, alignment is a factor
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    for builds with no monk or paladin i like Neutral Good. You can use Anarchic or Axiomatic weapons without suffering a negative level and you can use pure good weapons.
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    I would recommend choosing Lawful good as alignment for your fighter.

    The 'good' part of this will allow you to use pure good weapons, which is a distinct advantage, especially on the deleras quest chain at lower levels. At higher levels, transmuting of pure good is very handy against all sorts of mobs/bosses.

    The 'Lawful' part will allow you to use the 'chaosgarde bracers' from the xorian cipher quest which are nearly a necessity if you care about your ac: http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...Chaosgarde.jpg

    Now as people have pointed out you could use the umd skill (use magic device) to bypass these restrictions. However it is difficult to get to a 'good' number without investing in starting build points in charisma, feats, scarce item slots and raid items which require a lot of grinding.

    That being said you should put as many points as you can spare in umd. Not at the expense of intimidate though whcih is the most important skill for a fighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunboatDiplomat View Post
    I would recommend choosing Lawful good as alignment for your fighter.

    The 'good' part of this will allow you to use pure good weapons, which is a distinct advantage, especially on the deleras quest chain at lower levels. At higher levels, transmuting of pure good is very handy against all sorts of mobs/bosses.

    The 'Lawful' part will allow you to use the 'chaosgarde bracers' from the xorian cipher quest which are nearly a necessity if you care about your ac: http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...Chaosgarde.jpg

    Now as people have pointed out you could use the umd skill (use magic device) to bypass these restrictions. However it is difficult to get to a 'good' number without investing in starting build points in charisma, feats, scarce item slots and raid items which require a lot of grinding.

    That being said you should put as many points as you can spare in umd. Not at the expense of intimidate though whcih is the most important skill for a fighter.
    It also allows the use of retribution at level 6
    Also if mod 10 brings new weapons, and it better... then you can use both lawful and good which could be important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunboatDiplomat View Post
    I would recommend choosing Lawful good as alignment for your fighter.

    The 'good' part of this will allow you to use pure good weapons, which is a distinct advantage, especially on the deleras quest chain at lower levels. At higher levels, transmuting of pure good is very handy against all sorts of mobs/bosses.

    The 'Lawful' part will allow you to use the 'chaosgarde bracers' from the xorian cipher quest which are nearly a necessity if you care about your ac: http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...Chaosgarde.jpg

    Now as people have pointed out you could use the umd skill (use magic device) to bypass these restrictions. However it is difficult to get to a 'good' number without investing in starting build points in charisma, feats, scarce item slots and raid items which require a lot of grinding.

    That being said you should put as many points as you can spare in umd. Not at the expense of intimidate though whcih is the most important skill for a fighter.
    a non lawful toon heavy armor toon can choose the leviks combi for just 1 ac reduction. a dex based toon dont need chaosgardes
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    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyCalico View Post
    It also allows the use of retribution at level 6
    Also if mod 10 brings new weapons, and it better... then you can use both lawful and good which could be important.
    lol retribution? i aint see anyone use that longsword for a LONG time lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aranticus View Post
    a dex based toon dont need chaosgardes
    kinda depends.

    lets say your dex is 26.

    Leather DT+Chaos bracers+the dodge rune on the DT and +4 insight on your min 2 is only 3 ac behind something with chattering/icy/ac8 bracers/+4 insight min II

    and in return for that 3 ac loss they get all of the following

    1) only farm 1 hard thing to get instead of 3
    2) free up a ring slot-will let them wear 2 new raid items instead of just 1
    3) Get to toss +5 resistance and +5 protection on their other DT runes freeing up whatever slots those were in
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aranticus View Post
    lol retribution? i aint see anyone use that longsword for a LONG time lol
    LOL hey at level 6 a holy, pure good, true law anything is pretty nice
    Now if you see someone running shroud using it please smack them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyCalico View Post
    LOL hey at level 6 a holy, pure good, true law anything is pretty nice
    Now if you see someone running shroud using it please smack them.
    problem is who is going to run with you at L5 so u can use it at L6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aranticus View Post
    problem is who is going to run with you at L5 so u can use it at L6
    New ones pulled in mod 9 are bound to account
    Just not the old already pulled ones
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    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyCalico View Post
    New ones pulled in mod 9 are bound to account
    Just not the old already pulled ones
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aranticus View Post
    a non lawful toon heavy armor toon can choose the leviks combi for just 1 ac reduction.
    Seeing as you're relying on DT armour for that you can't 'choose' the Leviks. Just grind and pray. Chaosgarde bracers are far easier to get for a higher ac.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aranticus View Post
    a dex based toon dont need chaosgardes
    I see no indication the OP had a dex based build. We are in the fighter thread aren't we?

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    Default I vote LG

    Chaosgards must be lawful +2 AC
    Ring of Balance +2 AC from Invader's --> replace with chattering ring from Titan if u get lucky

    The Iron Manacles of +4 AC from Delera's are for Chaotic but you can easily find a necklace or cloak of Protection +5 AC. So you wear a necklace or cloak +5 with Chaosgardes +2 that is +7. Better than the +4 from Iron Manacles.

    If you do not like LG because you cannot use ANARCHIC weapons, then have a HIGH UMD, Use Magic Devices. Which means you need to throw some points into INT to build that up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GunboatDiplomat View Post
    Seeing as you're relying on DT armour for that you can't 'choose' the Leviks. Just grind and pray. Chaosgarde bracers are far easier to get for a higher ac.

    I see no indication the OP had a dex based build. We are in the fighter thread aren't we?
    i agree but alot of people like to state that non lawful toons cannot achieve a meaningful ac not realising with the leviks combo, they are only out by 1 ac. more importantly, this frees up the +4 insight on their weapon for something potentially more useful

    as for fighter.... yeah i've seen a ftr/mnk dex based build.... yuck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aranticus View Post
    if i'm not mistaken, next mod requires the umd score to alway be equal or exceeding of the item requirement. any moment umd drops below the number, the item immediately becomes unequipped. this can result in a potential problem for cross classed classes with low cha.
    is this confirmed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingfisher View Post
    is this confirmed?
    Sadly yes, check the beta forums you will see entire threads on the UMD change.
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