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    Please don't flame me.

    Ok, with that being said, I was on another thread reading about the must have feats for a melee based toon and, with the exception of Aranticus' math, it was not very helpful. I was really looking for some great advice and didn't get it.

    Here's the problem that I am facing - I am missing on my 32-pt. build barbarian.

    His starting stats where:
    STR - 18, DEX - 12, CON - 16, INT - 8, WIS - 10, and CHA - 8.

    I have taken these feats - THF, PA, Cleave, IC:Slashing, and Toughness. I had Stunning Blow but found that most mobs were dropping so fast in a good group that I just wasn't using it.

    I use a +5 G-Axe, +5 G-Sward, and a Maul for smashing skellies.

    My problem - I have trouble hitting with PA on when I get in a little over my head. For example, I was running GH quests as a level 9 and on anyting but the bugbears and hobgoblins....whiff. So, I turned PA off. I don't know how to fit Spring Attack in on this build but I think that might be the solution but, I was also thinking that it is just that I was a level 9/10 running level 14 quests.

    What do you guys think? Thanks in advance for any help.

    P.S. If you have time, do you have any suggestions for optimal gear? I am just now getting this guy raid ready and that advice would also come in handy.

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    You prolly want to be using PA only when you are raged up. And if you are missing a lot while raged up then you definately need more strength.
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    what is your strength raged?

    more than likely the problem is simply that you are questing way above your level.

    you can try equipping and item to improve your to hit, heavy handed armbands or one of the korthos sets and see if that makes a difference.

    or find a buff ***** to cast GH

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    I'll have to go back in game to find my strength while raging with all of my rage enhancements added. I think at level 10, I am walking around with a strength of 25+7. I only have a +4 strength item, one feat, and.......can't remember. I will find it. I have 3 ranks of power rage if that helps. I also need to buy some bull's strength pots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mav145 View Post
    Please don't flame me.

    Ok, with that being said, I was on another thread reading about the must have feats for a melee based toon and, with the exception of Aranticus' math, it was not very helpful. I was really looking for some great advice and didn't get it.

    Here's the problem that I am facing - I am missing on my 32-pt. build barbarian.

    His starting stats where:
    STR - 18, DEX - 12, CON - 16, INT - 8, WIS - 10, and CHA - 8.

    I have taken these feats - THF, PA, Cleave, IC:Slashing, and Toughness. I had Stunning Blow but found that most mobs were dropping so fast in a good group that I just wasn't using it.

    I use a +5 G-Axe, +5 G-Sward, and a Maul for smashing skellies.

    My problem - I have trouble hitting with PA on when I get in a little over my head. For example, I was running GH quests as a level 9 and on anyting but the bugbears and hobgoblins....whiff. So, I turned PA off. I don't know how to fit Spring Attack in on this build but I think that might be the solution but, I was also thinking that it is just that I was a level 9/10 running level 14 quests.

    What do you guys think? Thanks in advance for any help.

    P.S. If you have time, do you have any suggestions for optimal gear? I am just now getting this guy raid ready and that advice would also come in handy.
    yeap you are 5 levels below the quest you are going to face problems hitting them. check out how much you are missing by

    if you only hit greater than a 5 on your first attack, keep PA on. if you hit only on a 10, ditch PA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mav145 View Post
    I'll have to go back in game to find my strength while raging with all of my rage enhancements added. I think at level 10, I am walking around with a strength of 25+7. I only have a +4 strength item, one feat, and.......can't remember. I will find it. I have 3 ranks of power rage if that helps. I also need to buy some bull's strength pots.
    pots wont stack with your strength item. don't waste your money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BattleCircle View Post
    pots wont stack with your strength item. don't waste your money.
    yeah buy rage pots instead
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    Any gear suggestions to start moving from level 10 to level 16?

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    try jumping into a gird farming group

    carry rage potions

    pick up a 'of righteousness' weapon for a +7 weapon against most monsters. or try picking up regular greater banes for cheap. +1-3 greataxe of greater bane shouldnt cost alot, especially if its missing a prefix. excluding construct bane weapons

    try not to pick up the extra barb PA enhancements until you can handle them. I usually dont recommend the full line (-11/+22) until acquiring madstone boots, hitting lvl cap, and picking up a STR tome. Rule of thumb for me was to try to keep your raged to-hit at double your level.

    So if you're lvl 11, and you have a +24 to hit while raged with PA on, then go ahead n pick up two ranks of PA.

    additionally you're going to find a disparity on monster AC between normal and elite. try to stick to fast normal runs with PA on, unless you feel that you can hit reliably on elite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mav145 View Post
    Any gear suggestions to start moving from level 10 to level 16?
    madstone boots from reaver, +6 str item, pick up a competence item ie fullplate of defender (vod) tumbleweed (hound), bloodstone (desert)
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