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    Hey,
    When most of the forum people post a photo, illustration, video, web links, quotes and the like....do you have written permission to do such thing from the owners of those things? I mean we all do have permission right? A simple yes or no will be just fine.

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    It depends on the content being posted as to if there are any terms attached to using it. In general many things are fine to use without consent, but it is a content by content basis for evaluating an answer to your question.
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    considering the context and how they are posted, they giving credit to the orginiator of the website or image.

    shall we consult a copy right attorney?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lerincho View Post
    considering the context and how they are posted, they giving credit to the orginiator of the website or image.

    shall we consult a copy right attorney?
    So if I go to posts with such photos, video links and more I will see the expressed permission of the owners of such material to the ones posting it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowHand2 View Post
    So if I go to posts with such photos, video links and more I will see the expressed permission of the owners of such material to the ones posting it?
    do you have the expressed permission of me to quote me all the time?

    What are you driving at ShadowHand2? this is your 3rd post based on plagerism and copyright laws? studying to be a lawyer, looking to sue Turbine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lerincho View Post
    do you have the expressed permission of me to quote me all the time?

    What are you driving at ShadowHand2? this is your 3rd post based on plagerism and copyright laws? studying to be a lawyer, looking to sue Turbine?
    Only showing the double standards of people, either we have permission or we don't. I am posting about something totally different. Sorry if you cannot see past preconceived notions or prejudice's, I am asking a honest question and would like a honest answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowHand2 View Post
    Only showing the double standards of people, either we have permission or we don't. I am posting about something totally different. Sorry if you cannot see past preconceived notions or prejudice's, I am asking a honest question and would like a honest answer.
    as i asked an honest question and would like an honest answer. do YOU have MY permission to continually quote me if you are so worry about plagerism? and no this is at least the 2nd time you have brought of plagerism.

    so WHAT IS YOUR BEEF? Just spit it out finally, stop beating around the bush.
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    For clarity, or at least information

    http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-gui...t-infringement

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    and yet you never answered my question. I am sorry you feel its important to describe others past posts real or made up. I wish to focus on today and not avoid a question like some do. Either we do all have permission or we do not. Do we all have permission as per describe by DDO/Turbine?
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    Capt... is that DDO forum rules or is that not in fact a off-site description?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowHand2 View Post
    and yet you never asnwered my question. I am sorry you feel its important to describe others past posts real or made up. I wish to focus on today and not avoid a question like some do. Either we do all have permission or we do not. Do we all have permission?


    You sir do NOT have permission. Lerincho post as you please.

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    Sorry Mag,

    As I am not breaking forum guildlines then I will take your opinion for what it is....of no concern to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowHand2 View Post
    Capt... is that DDO forum rules or is that not in fact a off-site description?
    http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-gui...t-infringement
    the link says nothing about DDO, therefore, it is off-site description. should you like a DDO description, I suggest YOU search through the Terms of Service and Code of Conduct on the forums for your answer, instead of refusing to accept our answers.


    I will ask one more time, and only one more time. As if you have not noticed I am the only one asking you the question. WHAT IS YOUR BEEF THAT YOU CONTINUE TO MAKE POST AFTER POSTS OF THIS NATURE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lerincho View Post

    I will ask one more time, and only one more time. As if you have not noticed I am the only one asking you the question. WHAT IS YOUR BEEF THAT YOU CONTINUE TO MAKE POST AFTER POSTS OF THIS NATURE?
    He's probably wondering how much into the negative rep a forum account can get. Hopefully when he finds out, he will share his findings (assuming he as able to at that point...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithic View Post
    He's probably wondering how much into the negative rep a forum account can get. Hopefully when he finds out, he will share his findings (assuming he as able to at that point...)
    guess he just doesn't understand that i have been the only person to care enough in the past 3 threads to ask, what the problem was. yes refuses to answer me.
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    L,
    I did read DDO rules and guidlines. Your answer never answered anything. Either we do have permission or we do not it is very simple notion. Do we have direct permission each and every-time? Since you will not answer mine in a polite way, I will do you one better and answer yours to show good faith. Even though I am thinking good faith from you will not come about. I have no beef nor is my post related to anything then what is in this post. See title, perhaps past hates you have of me are influencing your judgment. This is not a post of the same nature of which you are vague about. If I post everyday about anything, will you chase me around saying it the same subject or allow me to post anything without prior hate? I am asking a question that has nothing to do with anything I post from my past. I am sorry if you need to force a connection not there.

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    Dear Shadowhand,

    I have notified 3 wing chun martial arts schools, 2 authors and a pc game development company that you are using their name as your forum handle. Let's hope YOU have written permission. As to your guild name, working on it...

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    If your wondering what brought me to ask is I was reading other threads and posts in many subjects from builds to whatever thread I happened upon. It got me thinking after watching videos of raids or pictures of people or art (illistrations)...my thought was....do we all have the permission to post all we do? wanted to ask to see if anyone else ever thought about that. Or well....even cared. You may think my motives are hidden when they are not. I really am wondering if we have permission to post anything of this nature. More so, is DDO being nice and allowing us to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuchilo View Post
    Dear Shadowhand,

    I have notified 3 wing chun martial arts schools, 2 authors and a pc game development company that you are using their name as your forum handle. Let's hope YOU have written permission. As to your guild name, working on it...
    Excuse me if I do not beleive you. You got proof you did or is that merely what is...a bluff that fell flat on its face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowHand2
    It got me thinking after watching videos of raids or pictures of people or art (illistrations)...my thought was....do we all have the permission to post all we do? wanted to ask to see if anyone else ever thought about that. Or well....even cared.
    Do some of us think about it? Do some of us care? I can't speak for everyone, but I care about it depending on where the source is and if I know there are restrictions I need to worry about to get to that source information (such as logging on somewhere).

    For instance here are some scenarios:

    I make a crude diagram. I post it to a public photo sharing area so that anyone can see it. I do not require permission from myself (it is an original work) but I don't expect anyone's permission because I made it public also.
    I make a cow out of clay, take a picture, and put in in a private place. I let 7 people have access to view it. If I somehow find that picture spread around via 1 of those 7 people downloading it, rehosting it, sending it, etc, then I won't be very happy due to the permissions expected in privacy.
    I go to youtube and someone made a video of their cat acting ninja-like. It is their work that they made public, so I don't see any permission needed to share it to others.
    I go to youtube and I find Drew Carey's Green Screen Show, a full filming of the third episode. I would not link to that because that is being publicly shared in a manner that goes against the law.

    My general rule of thumb is that if I know it is purposely released to the public by the owner, I'll use it at will. Otherwise, I won't use it unless I know I have permission to use it within the confines of a private community.

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    I really am wondering if we have permission to post anything of this nature. More so, is DDO being nice and allowing us to?
    As far as DDO content goes, things are fine to share as long as they are not exploits or whatever you are viewing in DDO is not under some form of Non-Disclosure Agreement. Otherwise, many of us would have been chastised for posting such things years ago. To get a more direct (and possibly more confusing) answer to this, try the End User License Agreement.

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