Accountability and the abuse of power

[Lerincho]

But this is atleast the 4 thread you have start about rep in the last couple of days and they keep getting lock then you feel the need to open another one with a twist on it to try and slide it by. People are getting tired of this ranting of yours. You also hide so know one knows your toons or server. Then you steal parts for your original post in this thread and people call you out on it try and deflect the attention away from that.


Also In before the lock.

Actually Tarrant told him in the last thread, not to start another without consequences. Flat out told him, if you do not wish to partake in the rep system, then elect not to utilize the forums.

[Missing_Minds]

*reads the original post 3 times to be certain*

Yeap, zero Dungeons and Dragons content. This belongs in off topic.

*makes request for thread to be moved.*

[cdbd3rd]

*reads the original post 3 times to be certain*

You are *really* feeling masochistic today, hunh?

I got thru about two sentences before realizing it was a new version of the same ol last couple days - although it seemed more directed at the Powers than the peers, but whatever.

OP: Certainly a classic case of 'shoulda walked away from the forums for a couple days' before risking a stroke or ulcer...

[cdbd3rd]

I have a proposal for this thread: it should stand as EXHIBIT A that the new mod needs to be released THIS WEEKEND!....

Negative, Ghost Rider, the pattern is full.

(I mean, have you sat and read General for any length of time? Next week is going to get real interesting around here. I can wait for another couple days before that all hits.)

[Aranticus]

For those who read what I posted and had some feedback of it whether pos/neg I thank you. I never claimed I wrote all of it but then I have nothing to gain by claiming anything.

Random House Compact Unabridged Dictionary defines plagiarism as the "use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work."[1] it is true that you did not actively claimed it to be your own work but the fact that the words appeared in a post under your account, of which no other has access to state otherwise

Well stated and with thoughts I have had myself.

Your post was written well enough

your gain is something that cannot be quantified. i quoted 2 posts in which the posters believed what you posed to be your own work. that by itself is a gain. if they had rep-ed the post, besides the "reputation" of being a good writer, you would have gained forum rep points

quote]My post was of a subject that needs to be addressed. I thank you for your feedback that has to do with the topic at hand. I am sorry you were chased away by the very people who I described. It was never my intention to post to draw the likes of them here, but if you understand my past dealings with them, anything my brother or I post gets derailed or closed by them or others of same standing. They hold all who do not agree with them with such disdain.[/quote]

many of the people who were critical of you made valid points which unfortunately met with a hailstorm of drivel, me included

http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=25

the moment you armed your countershot with inane replies, you yourself drove others away. no one holds others who disagree with disdain. check out the "conversation" i had with captain1z. neither of us insulted each other. it is possible to have an intellectual debate but provided you raise yourself to higher standards

Keep the topic at hand in your thoughts so it spreads. Let this be an example of the types who abuse power that went to their heads. If we are all players, no one needs to be treated like this. I feel sorry for them in a way. They lost their humanity along time ago.

keep the topic at hand so that it spreads or post it multiples times so that it spread? abuse power? i've had negative rep given to me a few times and each time, it is justified. if you keep posting bovine fecal matter, you are sure to be neg rep-ed. thats not coz people are abusing power. i'm not sure what society you grew up in, but it is very different from the norm. dun worry thou, there is help at hand, if you extend yours

When new players come in in a few weeks, I hope when they get here they can see and do something about the abuse of power of some over all others. I only hope the new blood is more forgiving to the established few right now. I am laughing to see how they try and dictate to the new poeple...who will outnumber you. Good times indeed.

whoa! just a couple of months back you were part of an anti-mod9 recruit brigade and now you are spreading your "protective" wings around them. such irony

The good thing about those who seek to tower over others like they do, someone will always be better then you and looking to knock you down to take your place. Enjoy your moment....you have less then a week or 2 before it will end. I am happy with the end of tyranny. In the end the mass always overcome oppression.

there is no doubt that there will be better people out there, after the hundreds or even thousands of kids coming in

References
1. qouted in Stepchyshyn, Vera; Robert S. Nelson (2007). Library plagiarism policies. Assoc of College & Resrch Libraries. p. 65. ISBN 0838984169

[Donnie]

Im glad I could give a rats ass about forum rep, or what people do with it.

<---- Otherwise my tiny insignificant rep peen may upset me

[Lerincho]

Im glad I could give a rats ass about forum rep, or what people do with it.

<---- Otherwise my tiny insignificant rep peen may upset me

now see Donnie, what are friends for. I gave you your second scale :P

[ShadowHand2]

Actually Tarrant told him in the last thread, not to start another without consequences. Flat out told him, if you do not wish to partake in the rep system, then elect not to utilize the forums.

Post was not about the rep system, others enjected that notion like yourself to make it that. Making a topic into something else not of the topic is called derailment. As your so keen to point what a Dev said to me, thanks for stating the obvoius. I took his cue and elected to not repost about it as new topic. Only thing in the posted I stated that had anything to do with rep "is lower points as well" in realtion to a position. Four words hardly makes a post the WHOLE meaning of it. It is others who tried to attach the rep system to the post. That is a issue you need to discuss with them. My post was about abuse of power, if you read more into that...you must be on the wrong thread.

[Lerincho]

Post was not about the rep system, others enjected that notion like yourself to make it that. Making a topic into something else not of the topic is called derailment. As your so keen to point what a Dev said to me, thanks for stating the obvoius. I took his cue and elected to not repost about it as new topic. Only thing in the posted I stated that had anything to do with rep "is lower points as well" in realtion to a position. Four words hardly makes a post the WHOLE meaning of it. It is others who tried to attach the rep system to the post. That is a issue you need to discuss with them. My post was about abuse of power, if you read more into that...you must be on the wrong thread.

/looks around

Nope this is the thread for lost causes. I'm in the right place. Thanks for checking on me though.

So what exactly are you so sour graped about?

[ShadowHand2]

But this is atleast the 4 thread you have start about rep in the last couple of days and they keep getting lock then you feel the need to open another one with a twist on it to try and slide it by. People are getting tired of this ranting of yours. You also hide so know one knows your toons or server. Then you steal parts for your original post in this thread and people call you out on it try and deflect the attention away from that.


Also In before the lock.

The thread is about abuse of power, not the rep system. Only 4 words in the post hardly counts as the real topic as it was and is. Title says it all. If you think I am talking about the rep system I am sorry you read it wrong.

[Lerincho]

The thread is about abuse of power, not the rep system. Only 4 words in the post hardly counts as the real topic as it was and is. Title says it all. If you think I am talking about the rep system I am sorry you read it wrong.

and who is abusing the power? and where in my original statement did I say ANYTHING in regards to the rep system. I didn't. what i said was, this is NOT a path you are really wanting to go down. It was a warning to you.

save the ulcer, give up the fight.

[Tarrant]

The thread is about abuse of power, not the rep system. Only 4 words in the post hardly counts as the real topic as it was and is. Title says it all. If you think I am talking about the rep system I am sorry you read it wrong.

If this is not about the rep system then it is clearly not about DDO, and I'll move it to Off-Topic.

I would advise those of you that disagree with ShadowHand to stay out of this post, as there have been some personal attacks thrown around and personal attacks make me angry. You're all waiting for the next line, but you're not going to get it!

[ShadowHand2]

If this is not about the rep system then it is clearly not about DDO, and I'll move it to Off-Topic.

I would advise those of you that disagree with ShadowHand to stay out of this post, as there have been some personal attacks thrown around and personal attacks make me angry. You're all waiting for the next line, but you're not going to get it!

at least you agree there are personal attacks

[Gornin]

OP, sorry but this is a load of passive-aggressive bull.

Go ahead, point out that I am part of the pack until you see that I have not earned any rep. Others in this thread will attest that I have disagreed with them, but I do so respectfully, thus garnering little ill will. The system is what it is, and you can either participate, stay out of the fray, or be like me and many others who don't really give a rats behind.

If your posts continually garner poor/bad rep for you, maybe the problem isn't the community, but you.

You are not the victim here, you are the perp. Stop being so emo and arrogant.

This is classic from someone who says the rest of us can't "hack DDO".

Since you claim you are being abused by the rep system and wish it to be abolished, we can only assume that you can't "hack the social setting" of DDO forums.

Pointing out the plagerism in your post is not an Ad Hominem attack, as Borr showed you by definition, not by redefining. Again, stop playing victim.

Edit: How did I get that second scale on my rep? It wasn't there earlier.

[ShadowHand2]

OP, sorry but this is a load of passive-aggressive bull.

Go ahead, point out that I am part of the pack until you see that I have not earned any rep. Others in this thread will attest that I have disagreed with them, but I do so respectfully, thus garnering little ill will. The system is what it is, and you can either participate, stay out of the fray, or be like me and many others who don't really give a rats behind.

If your posts continually garner poor/bad rep for you, maybe the problem isn't the community, but you.

You are not the victim here, you are the perp. Stop being so emo and arrogant.

This is classic from someone who says the rest of us can't "hack DDO".

Since you claim you are being abused by the rep system and wish it to be abolished, we can only assume that you can't "hack the social setting" of DDO forums.

Pointing out the plagerism in your post is not an Ad Hominem attack, as Borr showed you by definition, not by redefining. Again, stop playing victim.

Edit: How did I get that second scale on my rep? It wasn't there earlier.

Again, as I keep reminding others the post is about accountably (from authority) and the abuse of power. Others brought Rep into the fray, from other threads of mine hoping to somehow change the topic to that. It is an Ad hominum attack and Borr, as it might be a shock is WRONG. They are not addressing the topic but the person and not addressing the topic is just that also:

"The process of proving or disproving the claim is thereby subverted, and the argumentum ad hominem works to change the subject" wikipedia

Since the subject was about abuse of power and such, when alot keep bring it up about Rep...they were trying to change the subject to make a better stance for them to break down something I had not wish to talk about. As a Dev told me not to post more, I d id not post. But I did however respond when brought up. Had nothing to do with my post, but then I was not the one who intentional dis-railed it either.

[Lerincho]

So what exactly are you so sour graped about?

Again, i ask honestly. what are you so soured about? what it is exactly that is bothering you? pinpoint it, what is the KEY issue.

EDIT: in case it isn't easy to tell, this mentions nothing about the alternative subject, this is specifically asking you what is bothering you.

[04pugdog04]

The thread is about abuse of power, not the rep system. Only 4 words in the post hardly counts as the real topic as it was and is. Title says it all. If you think I am talking about the rep system I am sorry you read it wrong.

I am sorry that you are dellusional enough that you think people cant see through your backhanded way of talking about the rep system. You have been found out as using other peoples articles to right yours and also to talk about rep. you = epic fail

[Missing_Minds]

Again, as I keep reminding others the post is about accountably (from authority) and the abuse of power.

Are you talking of your local government which goes into politics and will get the thread locked.

Or are you talking of Turbine moderators on PRIVATE forums that they control and we are privileged to use?

[Demoyn]

That should be a power reserved for the moderators themselves and NO player. It should be Turbine officials that decide what post or poster has crossed the line (otherwise as a player use the report button or pm them), giving that power to a select few will only promote more discontent.

What are you talking about? Turbine officials ARE the problem.

[Demoyn]

- If u feel the system is not working well or being abused, you really should PM a moderator and have them review the situation. Making a post and taking this stand publicly only singles you out and makes you a target for more of the same (possibly).

Welcome to the reputation system -- where the moderators are the ones abusing the system. How is appealing to them going to help anything?