fastest mover

[wolfy42]

Imo the fastest mover, that would still be useful to a party - depending on stacking rules of movement speed - would be a 12rog/7rgr/1brb, tough even that isn't too practical since a 13/6/1 would be way better.

Sure a 18mnk/1-2rgr would be techincally the same, maybe faster maybe slower depending on stacking rules again. But a monk that high level should really go pure, else it's pretty much a wasted build.

Ah, good idea....that would give you the 10% boost from acrobat, 10% boost from barbarian, sprint boost III for 45% boost and haste boost of 40%.

Also someone above mentioned that favored souls would actually move the fastest because of a special ability. I have not had a chance to play one yet...how does the special ability work?

[Shade]

I just did some running through Ruined Halls because it has an area that is completely straight (sure, it has stairs, but the Z-axis doesn't impede run speed on the X-axis or Y-axis when going downhill) and if you zone in and run, it only moves you on the Y-axis (making it easy to calculate the distance run). For those who don't know how to get knowledge on your location in DDO-terms, you can use the "/loc" command and it will give you that information. After doing each test run at least 3 times to get an average I got the following:

Run Bonuses		Time to Run	Distance	Calculated Run Speed

None			0:20		140.80		100% (base)
Sprint I		0:20		189.88		134.86%
15% stride, Sprint I	0:20		209.74		148.96%
Barbarian, Haste	0:20		210.05		149.18%
Monk 25%, Exp. Retreat	0:20		208.87		148.35%

For all the runs I used a boost of some kind for the timing (as they are 20 seconds) except for the monk run. The monk run is suspect to being plus or minus 0.5 seconds on the run.

I can't find any evidence that supports a barbarian or monk having their class abilities adding to the base of their run speeds.



18 Monk/1 Ranger/1 ??? is probably better overall in terms of running. It may be equal at +105% run speed to the 12 Monk/7 Ranger/1 ???, but the 18 Monk/1 Ranger/1 ??? has a greater passive run speed (30% passive / 35% sprint boost).

Yea thread necro, but this data is still very relevant today and needs to be known and kept current.. and was looking at the wiki thinking of doing some updates and confirm all this stuff.

The issue with your testing here Mr. Cow:
Your assuming that the stated ingame descriptions are 100% valid and accurate, to test my claim that they just plain aren't..

So when you assume:
Barbarian (stated 10%) + haste (stated 40%) =
Monk (25%), Exp. Retreat (stated 25%) should be equal amounts.. Thats not neccesarily the case.

Check out Vanshilars testing for some evidence that they don't work that way:
http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...9&postcount=31

His testing shows haste is actaully 32%. and exp retreat is 25% as stated
So 32% +10 = 42% , vs 25 +25 = 50%.. Yet the barbarian runs faster. Supports my simple ingame experience and idea that bbn fast movement is coded differently.

Course this game so frequently gets undocumented changes that all this info could be out dated now too.

But Mr Cow is back now and maybe hes bored and wants to look at this. I think a saw a recent thread from him with some related info too.

[adam1oftheround]

All of your best info, plus umd a shadow walk scroll for 50% haste boost ( equivalent to phiarlan pendant of time , but can be used in quests ) then you can use all your other stuff, but opening a door or attacking will remove the effect. The up side is the duration which includes displacement for free. Add to that invisibility and you can walk past most mobs, those having inherent true seeing or tremor sense will see you, but few could keep up to manage an attack.

Shadow walk over writes dragon mark of lesser passage, striding, haste, expeditios retreat and the monk equivalent of shadow walk, but should stack with all of your barbarian 10%, rogue acrobat 10% and sprint boosts.

God speed to you!

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[Salvidrim]

Barb10/Rog10 can have:

+10% Fast Movement
+50% Barbarian Sprint Boost
+50% Ranger Sprint Boost
+50% Pendant of Time's "Warp Time"
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+160% theoretical base speed (x2.6)

Warp Time is an enhancement bonus, does not stack with Haste, Striding, Shadow Walk, Acrobat's Showtime, Longstrider, Exp.Retreat.

Fast.Mov is innate, and both Sprint Boosts stack with each other.

That is of course the fastest peak, theoretical, public-area speed value, not the "fastest character build", as a Monk/Rogue would then most likely have access to higher unbuffed speed.

[paraplegic]

wizzy with teleport?

[binnsr]

Barb10/Rog10 can have:

+10% Fast Movement
+50% Barbarian Sprint Boost
+50% Ranger Sprint Boost
+50% Pendant of Time's "Warp Time"
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+160% theoretical base speed (x2.6)

Warp Time is an enhancement bonus, does not stack with Haste, Striding, Shadow Walk, Acrobat's Showtime, Longstrider, Exp.Retreat.

Fast.Mov is innate, and both Sprint Boosts stack with each other.

That is of course the fastest peak, theoretical, public-area speed value, not the "fastest character build", as a Monk/Rogue would then most likely have access to higher unbuffed speed.

You cannot have both Ranger and Barbarian Sprint boost at the same time.

[Salvidrim]

[facepalm]

I hadn't actually considered the fact one's cooldown stops the other from being used at the same time.

[Devastation]

Thought Striders stacked with the monk movement speed.... so wouldn't a pure monk with 30 striders and time pendant be the fastest?

[NaturalHazard]

Either way, there's no reason why barbarian movement speed should add to base, whilst monk do not.

Yes there is, BECAUSE SHADE SAID SO AND THATS THE BOTTOM LINE!!!!

RAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!! now im going to go scull two cans of beer at the same time and beat my chest.

[NaturalHazard]

My daddy can beat your daddy up!!

[Teharahma]

18Monk/1Ranger would have the highest sustained movespeed.
Full monk speed + sprint boost + pendant + abundant step is going to cross marketplace in around 3-4 secs, rough estimate.

[NaturalHazard]

18Monk/1Ranger would have the highest sustained movespeed.
Full monk speed + sprint boost + pendant + abundant step is going to cross marketplace in around 3-4 secs, rough estimate.

will there be a sonic boom?

[ckorik]

If you are running a race with a capped monk - and they know you are racing - then all they need to do is turn on Shadow Walk (it's an innate monk ability) and they would win.

[Moltier]

18Monk/1Ranger would have the highest sustained movespeed.
Full monk speed + sprint boost + pendant + abundant step is going to cross marketplace in around 3-4 secs, rough estimate.

And i will TR my AA into a 18monk/1ranger/1wizzy.
And i will annoy my guildies while kiting the whole dungeon forever!
Non will catch me!

[Diyon]

Because it doesn't look like anyone else has linked it yet:

http://ddowiki.com/page/Run_speed

"Run speed is the rate at which a character moves.

Run speed is the same for all races.

Barbarian and Monk classes get bonuses to run speed. All other classes have the same base run speed.

Modifiers of run speed:

Enhancement bonus (do not stack with each other):

Striding item effect which is commonly found on boots or rings (listed as 5%, 10%, 15%, 20%, 25%, or 30% speed bonus; actual bonus is 4%, 8%, 12%, 16%, 20%, 24%).
Longstrider spell (listed and actual 15%)
Expeditious Retreat spell (listed and actual 25%)
Thief-Acrobat: Showtime boost (listed and actual 25% run speed bonus, also other skills bonus)
Haste spell (listed 40% actual 32% run speed bonus, also 15% attack speed bonus)
Shadow Walk spell (unlisted but actual 40% run speed bonus, also 50% concealment)
House Phiarlan Favor Reward the Phiarlan Pendant of Time's Warp Time spell (unlisted but actual 50% speed bonus, only in public areas).


Base increase (stack with each other and highest Enhancement bonus):

Fast Movement (barbarian class feat) (verified 10% at Barbarian level 1)
Fast Movement (monk class feat) (unverified +5% per 3 levels of Monk: 5% at 3, 10% at 6, 15% at 9, 20% at 12, 25% at 15, 30% at 18).
Thief-Acrobat II (verified 10% possible at Rogue level 12)
Barbarian Sprint Boost (verified 35-50% possible at Barbarian levels 1-10: 35% at 1, 40% at 4, 45% at 7, 50% at 10)
Ranger Sprint Boost (verified 35-50% possible at Ranger levels 1-10: 35% at 1, 40% at 4, 45% at 7, 50% at 10)


No change

Abundant Step does not increase run speed, nor is the distance jumped increased with a higher run speed.
Type of armor worn.
Race
Sex
Strength, Constitution, or length of run time (you don't get Exhausted from running)


Reduced by:

Carrying capacity: reduces speed when you are weighed-down:
Load: Light (0% to 33.33% load): no penalty.
Load: Medium (33.34% to 66.66% load): -4.3%.
Load: Heavy (66.67% to 100% load): -11.8%.
Load: Other (more than 100% load): -30.8%.
Some enhancements such as Stalwart Defender and Defender of Siberys Defensive Stances (1/2 or 1/3 speed), Monk's Mountain Stance
Some spells, such as Slow, Blindness, Ray of Exhaustion, Stinking Cloud, Sleep, etc.
Some Weapon enhancements, such as Crippling, Stench, Paralyzing, Strength Sapping, Tendon Slice, Weighted, Slowburst, Limb Chopper
Some melee special attacks, such as Hamstring, Sap, Stunning blow
Being fatigued after using the Barbarian Rage ability
Using the Sneak ability
Jumping (verified)
Flying (the spell cast by the Storm Reaver in The Reaver's Fate and Reaver's Refuge (Note that the Swim skill reportedly determines travel speed when flying. It does not affect speed when jumping/falling without Fly.)
Being Harried due to beign hit whilst high level dungeon alert is active"

[AidanRyuko]

currently trying this out on a monk I specifically built for running and jumping, I think shade is right that barbs have the best max potential when it comes to pure run speed. But I'm using a monk 18 ranger 1 build (would've picked barb if there was no alignment restriction), I stack pendant of time with ranger sprint, 30% strider + featherfall, 30% fast movement for being a level 18 monk.

I've tried several monk builds and also barbarian, only thing I did not try is monk 12 ranger 4 for sprint II, I also don't think it's useful to try it, because monk 18, ranger 1 gets 5% more run then monk 12 ranger 4.

what might or might not be interesting though, with the current event giving the light headed buff (sadly not usable outside of marketplace ), it's possible to jump half of marketplace in 1 go

~aid

[t0r012]

No one seems to remember monk 19s empty body.

Monk speed plus empty body with 30% stride is pretty darn tough to keep up with.
Barb sprint boosted might be slightly faster than the monk till boosts are out.
Throw in ki regen with items and cap and abundant step and the monk would likely be able to cover ground faster.

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Just realized I never tried to abundant step while in empty body so I'm not sure if it forces you out of empty body. If so the ki upkeep would outstrip generation if not then you might be able to keep stepping on every cool down.

[AidanRyuko]

toro, the reason empty body isn't mentioned is because it equals shadow walk and does not stack with the phiarlan time pendant which gives more speed

[Asketes]

First) This Thread keeps getting Necro'd lol

Second) 19 Monk / 1 Barb would be, in theory, the fastest... Too bad you can't make them though.

[Dartwick]

13rogue(acrobat2)7barb
All the correct items.

Should win.