Raise Dead Scroll Donations?

[Khurse]

Hey all
Just ooc (been many months since I played my cleric) -Do you think raise dead scrolls are an acceptable donation?
I've got a fighter (curently lvl 8), for donations I've been passing out raise dead scrolls to the lvl 7-8 clerics I've been pugging with. Usually 5 for a normal run, 10 if it's a long one or resource intensive, or I'll provide as many as needed if it's a quest the pug apparently shouldn't be running.

Anyway just stated this, had a couple of people thank me, but have now had two people basically laugh that I'm giving them 5 scrolls and calling it a donation.

~ I know donations are my choice, so I'm not really worried about that, just kinda curious if all of you guys are getting more than (say) 25-60K Gold per run.

I guess it's kinda a "how big are the tips you guys are generally getting" question, I thought I was in the nice 15-20% range, but am kinda concerened that may be coming off cheap.

Anyway any info (as always) you can provide is welcome.
Although I may need another job if I'm to tip 50 scrolls a run though

[valorik]

my cleric at 16 never get's donations outside of a bad shroud, even at lower levels. If at 7-8 someone donated a few rez scrolls I would be very glad, it cna be tough to afford that, I think you may be being too generous in fact.

[Kriogen]

Raise Dead scrolls? Why? You planning to die? Squishy or brainless zerg?

Mana pots!

[Khurse]

Raise dead scrolls I can buy,mana pots I have to find.

And I never really plan my deaths, they just seem to happen..

[Zenako]

Well I would say that if you are running with guild runs, then unless you are trying an Elite Raid for example, no donations are needed or even expected.

With pug groups, I might give another cleric something, if it seems they are struggling to keep up, but even more importantly, since I play clerics a lot, I will try and make sure that they are getting the most out of what they have.

I have in the past peeled off a handful of RD scrolls for example and given them to a cleric in mid level groups if from the table talk it becomes clear that they are viewed as a big expense.

I have on occasion been asked at the end of a run if I want anything, and in those cases I almost always say, no, but thank you for asking.

[Khurse]

Thanks for the replies

And no, if I'm running a shroud run or something I'll throw more than a couple RD scrolls their way- they get pots or a chunk of change. I was just curious about what (if anything) players were giving to low/mid level clerics.

[Visty]

the usual donation i always got was 5000plat
not that i would need it, but as its given, i take it

[Dcloak]

As I have one 16th level cleric, I never expect donations from anyone. Don't get me wrong. If someone wants to tip me, I'll let them.

I've accepted this class to be what it is and sometimes you need to consume a lot of resources for a successful completion.

I've only asked for a donation one time recently because I used a lot of heal scrolls and major elixirs to succeed in a VoD run. I let everyone know that was completely optional.

Elixirs are a nice donation as well as plat. The only time I use raise dead scrolls is when I'm out of spell points. If I had a choice between raise dead scrolls or plat, I'd go with the plat. I don't need scrolls.

At level 16, a common tip besides elixirs is 5000 plat. Since you are level 8, maybe tip half that? It's really all up to you, how generous you feel, and how much resources the cleric used for a particular quest. I would say most clerics don't expect to be tipped.

[Fenrisulven6]

Anyway just stated this, had a couple of people thank me, but have now had two people basically laugh that I'm giving them 5 scrolls and calling it a donation.

Poor form for them to laugh at generosity made in good faith.

Raise dead scrolls are expensive and an excellent resource for clerics below 9th. And even after you get the spell, its still nice to have a small stack to fall back on in case Murphy strikes.
But its also an item you can only use on others, so maybe thats where they're coming from.

Cheaper solutions are CSW wands. Always appreciated. Esp mid-quest.

But yes, mana pots are the favorite donations, simply because they offer versatility and help offset all the mana you wasted life-lining the WF dps barb.

All that said, its cool of you to offer anything. Esp if the group completed without wasting the cleric's resources.

[DoctorWhofan]

My clerics generally don't accept anything most of the time except mem pots. I can give others their mana back, but nobody can do it for me (except another cleric)

[Pyromaniac]

My cleric generally takes donations of any kind (other than heavy sets of armor) if the quest required a lot of resources and shouldn't have. Mana pots are liquid gold, I'd use 100 heal scrolls before a major

[Elsbet]

You're tipping someone. It's a GIFT. Give whatever you want. It can all be sold for plat if the cleric doesn't want it. They also have the option of saying, "Thanks, but I don't need it."

By this point, my capped clerics don't need the tips. Staying away from the AH and shopping temptation (I can spend way too much money there ) and a haggle bard mean I'm doing fine on plat and scrolls. I don't turn them down because it's nice to be appreciated.

Anyone who complains to the tipper/gift giver that the tip/gift they got is inadequate is rude. Thinking it is less than they spent or that it isn't as useful as a mnemonic is fine, but saying that to the tipper is not at all nice. Politely decline the tip or say thank you and vendor trash it. The true generosity is in the offer.

[S1gma]

Yep, any cleric that laughs at your offering is just rude.

Offering something, anything, after a quest is nice and should be well received. Maybe though, you don't need to go "gift-shopping". Give out the scrolls, pots, wands etc that you collect but won't use. And rather than go to the store for a gift, just offer the plat you would have spent.

You could also offer the rez scrolls or CSW wands beforehand. I know that if someone does that, I am certainly not going to let them die because of my inattention.

[kinar]

I generally won't ever accept donations before a quest unless it is expected to be a difficult run and there is a potential that we would end up needing to trade something in the heat of the action.

After a run, I might accept a donation if it ended up being a particularly harsh run and someone offers. But only if I actually used resources outside what I normally would have expected.

Any other time, I simply explain that it is not needed to obligatoraly tip a cleric.