River Tam: Halfling TWF Frenzied Berzerker with Evasion

[Depravity]

Not really. River isn't a Berzerker. She's a savant. She excels at everything she does.

The movie was on "SyFy" tonight, so I watched her fight with an eye towards her fighting style. No rage, very precise, controlled movements. She's probably somewhere more along monk/kensai lines than anything else.

I will admit the obvious mental instability does argue berzerker, though. Have to love the halfthing warsqueak too.

[binnsr]

The movie was on "SyFy" tonight, so I watched her fight with an eye towards her fighting style. No rage, very precise, controlled movements. She's probably somewhere more along monk/kensai lines than anything else.

I will admit the obvious mental instability does argue berzerker, though. Have to love the halfthing warsqueak too.

I would agree with that assessment .. I also noted that she fluidly shifted from unarmed 1H to 2H to 2W fighting styles .. So I'd even go so far as to give her a majority of fighter levels. Perhaps 12Ftr/6rgr/2mnk

Elf (or Halfling if you desire) 12Ftr/6rgr/2mnk
1 Rgr - 2HF
2 Mnk - Toughness
3 Mnk - Dodge / Mobility
4-5 Ranger
6 Ranger - Spring Attack
7-8 Ranger
9 Fighter iTHF / iCrit: Slashing (Tempest I)
10 Fighter - WF: Slashing
11 Fighter
12 Fighter - gTWF / gTHF
13 Fighter
14 Fighter - WS: Slashing
15 Fighter - Power Attack
16 Fighter - Cleave
17 Fighter
18 Fighter - Iron Will / Great Cleave
19 Fighter
20 Fighter - gWS: Slashing (Kensai II)

I didn't give her d-axe or OTWF because that axe in the offhand looked more like a hand axe and the main hand sword looked pretty much like a katana to me (in the stills - in the movie tonight, I didn't see it closely enough to make a distinction)

The problem with Kensai in this situation is that you have Unarmed, Single-handed and Two handed weapons and Kensai has to choose one..
If we had monkey-grip, I'd do this build as a WF with great swords in each hand!

[binnsr]

Or .. if you still want a frenzy..

Elf (or Halfling if you desire) 12Ftr/6brb/2rog (Kensai II / Frenzy I / evasion)

	Classes		Feats
1	Rogue 1		Toughness	
2	Barbarian 1			
3	Barbarian 2	Two Handed Fighting	
4	Barbarian 3	
5	Barbarian 4			
6	Barbarian 5	Two Weapon Fighting	
7	Barbarian 6			
8	Rogue 2	
9	Fighter 1	Improved Two Handed Fighting / Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
10	Fighter 2	Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
11	Fighter 3			
12	Fighter 4	Greater Two Weapon Fighting / Greater Two Handed Fighting
13	Fighter 5			
14	Fighter 6	Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
15	Fighter 7	Power Attack	
16	Fighter 8	Cleave
17	Fighter 9			
18	Fighter 10	Iron Will / Great Cleave
19	Fighter 11			
20	Fighter 12	Greater Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons

[Inspire]

Interesting build full of flavor.

Just a quick note on this; You could probably swap IC; Slashing for Toughness after you craft a couple of Mineral2 Dwarven Axes, after all, those are the biggest axes in the game

[Depravity]

I didn't give her d-axe or OTWF because that axe in the offhand looked more like a hand axe and the main hand sword looked pretty much like a katana to me (in the stills - in the movie tonight, I didn't see it closely enough to make a distinction)

Actually, with the curved, flaring tip, it reminded me of nothing so much as my greensteel scimitar. (Which I find suspicously straight and thin for a scimitar, but that may be too many cartoons sepaking)

There is the longsword ki feat that showed up in the compendium. Depending on how that and the monk PrEs shape up, I could almost see a 2ftr/monk/ranger tempest sword monkey split. Unfortunately, that messes w/ the "pick up anything slashy and cause much hurt" that would make for such a wonderful theme.

[geoffhanna]

Just a quick note on this; You could probably swap IC; Slashing for Toughness after you craft a couple of Mineral2 Dwarven Axes, after all, those are the biggest axes in the game

Two GS D.Axes = yes!
Both of them MinII = ??? Hmmm maybe ?

That is an interesting way to get toughness in without sacrificing any capabilities. Hmmm....

The problem with Kensai in this situation is that you have Unarmed, Single-handed and Two handed weapons and Kensai has to choose one..
If we had monkey-grip, I'd do this build as a WF with great swords in each hand!

Warforged?

Ok... she is not a kensai. Kensai is a martial savant, the "sword saint" who has invested his or her life in an intensive study of a single weapon.

If she wasn't FB, then monk2/fighter18. Not kensai just fighter. Will have problems hitting with STR on the oversized weapons, but will have enough feats to take multiple Improved Criticals and Exotic Weapns. And Toughness out the wazoo. Precision probably a must... Or pure Ranger. But... really... River is a little whacked. Somethin' wrong with her medulla oblongata. I can't see anything except Frenzied Berzerker FTW



p.s. no that is NOT a handaxe!

p.p.s. I hate "SyFy". What was wrong with SciFi?

[binnsr]

Warforged?

Would completely destroy the flavor of the build, but sometimes I just can't keep the metagamer in me from sneaking out

p.s. no that is NOT a handaxe!

the axe blade is plenty big there, but its got no haft to it.. and i agree with you that D-Axes are much cooler

p.p.s. I hate "SyFy". What was wrong with SciFi?

amen brother!

[MDS_Geist]

p.p.s. I hate "SyFy". What was wrong with SciFi?

They couldn't copyright it.

[QuantumFX]

IMO: Psychic Warrior would be a better fit but you are still getting +Rep for creative use of the name.

You should try taking a stab at “The man called Jayne”

[Raelg14]

IMO: Psychic Warrior would be a better fit but you are still getting +Rep for creative use of the name.

You should try taking a stab at “The man called Jayne”

If you are gonna do Jayne Cobb, he has to be a Human, CN alignment

[binnsr]

Ok... she is not a kensai. Kensai is a martial savant, the "sword saint" who has invested his or her life in an intensive study of a single weapon.

If she wasn't FB, then monk2/fighter18. Not kensai just fighter. Will have problems hitting with STR on the oversized weapons, but will have enough feats to take multiple Improved Criticals and Exotic Weapns. And Toughness out the wazoo. Precision probably a must... Or pure Ranger. But... really... River is a little whacked. Somethin' wrong with her medulla oblongata. I can't see anything except Frenzied Berzerker FTW

what about ravager? granted she wouldn't get it until Mod eleventybillion when they do the rest of the PrEs..

Barbarian Ravager
An evil-themed spec that debuffs foes. Your appearance causes a fear debuff, and your attacks cause a pain debuff. With a melee special attack you can inflict constitution damage with any weapon. You can eventually even cause phantasmal killer by screaming at someone.

[QuantumFX]

If you are gonna do Jayne Cobb, he has to be a Human, CN alignment

At risk of starting yet another “What does alignment mean?” thread. I’ve always thought of him as Neutral Evil. (Extremely selfish) Though I would roll him up with an 8 Wisdom.

[Raelg14]

At risk of starting yet another “What does alignment mean?” thread. I’ve always thought of him as Neutral Evil. (Extremely selfish) Though I would roll him up with an 8 Wisdom.

LOL at the risk of derailing this fine thread. Yeah I thought about that but since we cant have "evil" alignments in the game. I was thinking close to this definition I have used for all my past PnP CN characters

Chaotic Neutral

Chaotic Neutral is called the "Anarchist" or "Free Spirit" alignment. A character of this alignment is an individualist who follows his or her own heart, and generally shirks rules and traditions. Good and Evil come a distant second to their need for personal freedom, and the only reliable thing about them is how totally unreliable they are. They typically act out of self-interest, but do not specifically enjoy seeing others suffer. Many free-spirited adventurers are of this alignment.

[Robi3.0]

You should try taking a stab at “The man called Jayne”

I was actually thinking about working up a Jayne build after I saw this. I was thinking human fighter that is heavy repeating crossbow spec'ed, cause we know how much Jayne likes big guns. I will agree that his alignment would have to CN.

[ryingar]

You should try taking a stab at “The man called Jayne”

Yes Someone needs to build this....the only prob i can think of is that you can't get int below 8, and lets face it Jane is not a smart man. Now pass me some more of that mother's milk.


Btw why are you putting skill points into listen?

[geoffhanna]

Jayne Cobb... hmmm...

CN for sure, but not committed to it, and has NE tendencies. Big, human, strong, lots of toughness, lots of weapon skills. Also not a Kensai, partly due to chaos but also because he has skills in a lot of different weapons.

Ok I had to delete a bunch of stuff because I accidentally started on a real Jayne Cobb build! I think it can work too. But I want to post that seperately

Btw why are you putting skill points into listen?

That may be a mistake. As I am levelling her I am using Balance instead. I will update the build template.

[Seosamh]

Also not a Kensai, partly due to chaos but also because he has skills in a lot of different weapons.

Actually, I would say he is a Kensai. Fighters are proficient with all but the exotic weapons, which covers his skills. But I recall he had a favorite, the weapon he loved, he had a name for it (which I can't remember), it was a assault rifle (the biggest gun on-board, and even it wasn't big enough to penetrate the hull as I recall him telling Mal).

[geoffhanna]

Jayne has his own thread now.

Can we keep him out of this one? LOL

[Geonis]

Looks good, and love the Serenity theme.

One thing, take TWF 1st level instead of D.Axe, and you can start Rogue for all those yummy skill points, and take D.Axe at level 3.

[Visty]

a question about your feats:
why take itwf and gtwf so late?
and what you plan to use till you get them?
twf without them, thf or even snb?