A noob that would like some advice on a build

[Untfell]

I want to know how your group is not experienced, yet everyone is rolling 32 point builds?

None of us are that experienced

Is what i actually wrote. I played for about 3 months back when lvl 10 was the cap, and i capped two characters. When the level cap was raised to 12 I played for about 3 weeks, and i capped one character to 12 (both on Kyhber). My previous characters have been a straight fighter and a straight sorc. Not what i would consider advanced builds. I did play a couple of other toon, think i got another fighter to lvl 8 and a cleric to level 5.

I am now on my second month of billing since resubscribing. I am also playing on a new server, as this is where my buddies have rolled. Havent played my old toons at all.

Of the four of us rolling for this group, 3 of us have unlocked 32 point builds in the last 2 weeks, and one guy, although very close, has yet to unlock his 32 points.We have put a samll amount of effort into getting to 32 points. It is not hard.

My previous characters have been a straight fighter and a straight sorc. Not what i would consider advanced builds.

To date, I have rund DQ once, Hound once, Shroud once, everytime a pug, everytime getting tells from freindly ppl glad to offer some advice.

I am currently playing with a:

28pt Human fight2/Barb14 based on Illuminati's real max twf build.
32 point Warforged rogue1/Wizard3 based on feedback form the boards
32 point Warforged Wizard 6 based on Daemonis's(?) Generalist Wizard build
Drow Sorc6 based on well, i got advice, but it seems pretty hard to screw up a straight sorc.

There is still plenty of content in my favour log that says "none" for favor earned.

I have experience, just not an abundance of it. I do however know how to read.


Cheers,
-Sweom

[Untfell]

weapon focus for +1 to hit is a waste of a feat

Thx. I was honestly wondering about my feat selection. Been secretly hoping to get some comments. What would you suggest otherwise? Exotic Khopesh?

Question: Is a finesse base worth considering? Or is it too much of a gimp to dmg?

EDIT:
Scratch the above if I want to include Warchanter in this build. (wish i knew how to get [strike] strikethrough [/strike] to work on this board).

Chaotic Good Human Rogue1/Bard7/Ranger12
STARTING STATS:
str 16
con 13
dex 13
int 14
wis 10
cha 12

AFTER MODIFIERS:
str 22 (+4 Ability Raise, +2 Greater Adaptability)
con 14 (+1 Human Adaptability)
dex 16 (+3 Ranger's Dexterity)
int 14
wis 10
cha 14 (+2 bard's Charisma)

FEATS:
Selected feats, in no particular order:

Dodge
Mobility
Spring Attack
Weapon Focus
Over-sized Two Weapon Fighting
Extend
Improved Critical
Power Attack

SKILLS:
Max ranks in UMD, Open lock, Search, Disable Device, , Spot, 9 ranks into Perform. Spare points into Balance.

ENHANCEMENTS:

Ranger Extra Action Boost I
Rogue Haste Boost I
Ranger Skill Boost IV
Ranger Sprint Boost I
Bard Extra Song II
Bard inspired Attack I
Bard Inspired Bravery II
Bard Inspired Damage I
Bard Lingering Song II
Bard Warchanter I
Human Adaptability Constitution I
Human Greater Adaptability Strength II
Human Versatility IV
Ranger Tempest II
Rogue Disable Device I
Rogue Open Lock I
Ranger Search I
Ranger Energy of the Wild III
Bard Charisma II
Ranger Dexterity III
Rogue Improved Trap Sense I

SPELLS:
4/4/2 bard spells
2/2/2 ranger spells

NOTES:
Warchanter:
Requires: Bard Inspired Attack I, Bard Inspired Damage I, Bard Inspired Bravery II, Feat: Power Attack (= Strength of 13),
and one of following;
Feat: Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons, Feat: Weapon Focus: Piercing Weapons, Feat: Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons


Or alternatively ranger 11, bard8, rogue 1 (which is what i am probably going to roll)

losing me: Tempest II, Energy of the Wild III and a 3rd level ranger spell slot

gaining: Sprint Boost II, Inspired Attack II and a 3rd level bard spell slot

Cheers,
-Sweom

[Untfell]

Just found the beta lvl20 character builder. Awesome. Been wondering how people have been coming up with lvl 20 builds. Just assumed you all had beta keys lol.

Cheers,
-Sweom

[Gorstag]

Actually dude, I can read quit well, it is just interesting that you can not understand your own post. Yes, you did say that none of your group is very experienced, and yes, you did say you was all making 32 pt builds. And yes, if you have unlocked 32 point builds you would be experienced enough to at least build a decent 32 point build. I think you pointed out that you have played about six months total. Dude, your either not a noob or a complete....nevermind, no need for vulgar insults here.

[Untfell]

Actually dude, I can read quit well, it is just interesting that you can not understand your own post. Yes, you did say that none of your group is very experienced, and yes, you did say you was all making 32 pt builds. And yes, if you have unlocked 32 point builds you would be experienced enough to at least build a decent 32 point build. I think you pointed out that you have played about six months total. Dude, your either not a noob or a complete....nevermind, no need for vulgar insults here.

Hmm, wasn't trying to get your goat. What I meant was, *I* can read. I can read the wiki, I can read the forum, I can read codemasters, i can read the compendium, and I ask questions in game. The point i am making is that i do not have experience in designing multiclass toons. I basically played two straight class characters to level 10 in 2006 and then played 3 weeks in the 3years following. Until last month.

Also, there are many aspects of character design to which I remain ignorant. Certainly more experienced players should be able to over advice as to why some decisions are bad ones, and why others are good ones, and help make me aware of things that i may have overlooked (in my inexperience). Since i last subscribed there have been a number of changes to the game: new enhancements, new spells, new gear, new mobs, new quests, new levels. How does being unaware of their impact _not_ make you noobish?

Quite simply put, you asked a question and i answered it. You wanted to know how I am not *that* experienced, and i told you. Really, who cares if i am a noob, or not? Just you it seems. It's just a thread title. If your upset over the semantics, well ther isn;t much i can do about that.

if you have unlocked 32 point builds you would be experienced enough to at least build a decent 32 point build

is ridiculous btw. What if i leveled a melee class (which i did) and then decide to roll a multiclass melee/trapsmith/caster (which I have). Where's my experience get me? Not as far as i would like. Of course ymmv.

Take it easy.

Cheers,
- Sweom

[FluffyCalico]

. And yes, if you have unlocked 32 point builds you would be experienced enough to at least build a decent 32 point build. .

How so? Unlocking 32 point builds just means being very bored and out of content 1 weekend. It shows nothing of skill, knowledge, ....etc

[Demoyn]

Or alternatively ranger 11, bard8, rogue 1 (which is what i am probably going to roll)

I was actually going to suggest something closer to this. I have a few notes to add, though.

Ranger 12 is required for the maximum barkskin bonus. Ranger 12 is also required for the Tempest II enhancement (in its current form it's suboptimal, but still worth taking).

If you don't take at least 6 levels of bard you shouldn't bother with any. Focusing chant is +1 to hit and +1 to skills. You'd constantly have that same +1 to hit if you took the ranger level instead, and on a skill-heavy character the +1 to skills isn't worth an entire character level.

I'd suggest trying either Ranger 12 / Bard 7 / Rogue 1, Ranger 11 / Bard 8 / Rogue 1, or Ranger 11 / Bard 6 / Rogue 3 (in that order of preference).