16 Shrouds in 1 week and no Large Devil Scales

[Galacticus]

Wow! I'm glad that the drop rate is balanced.

Suggestion for the DDO Store: Large Devil Scales

[Shade]

Suggestion for u:
Plays less characters so you don't need so many scales lol..

Thats at least 8 chars isnt it..

Droprate is 100% balanced.

Whats off is the amount needed to craft - Large scales are needed more then anything else.

Thats not gonna be changed.

[Greydeath]

Wow! I'm glad that the drop rate is balanced.

While selling scales would indeed work, if you are only doing 16 runs a week you are not farming near enough.

Whats off is the amount needed to craft - Large scales are needed more then anything else.

As with most things, this is incorrect. Scales are distributed equally throughout the crafting. The difficulty lies within what people perceive as the optimal choice(s) to craft.

[ShadowHand2]

Well...last month for the WHOLE month zero large scales dropped for me (that is 4 weeks). I have roughly 7 capped toons that run shroud when ever one is posted. So the drop rate was not so kind for me during that month

[Delt]

While selling scales would indeed work, if you are only doing 16 runs a week you are not farming near enough.


As with most things, this is incorrect. Scales are distributed equally throughout the crafting. The difficulty lies within what people perceive as the optimal choice(s) to craft.

You sure about that? I'm not saying 100% you are wrong (though I suspect you are), but I can't recall a single recipe where scales are on the lowest end of the ingrediants. I'd challenge you to count the number of recipes that require 0-1 scales for single shards or 0-3 for dual shards....if any. I know of quite a few exist for bones/chains/shrapnel.

[FluffyCalico]

Droprate is 100% balanced.

.

But not per character. I have some that have never pulled a scale and others that have pulled 10 of them. The drop rate may be balanced but that does not address that it's very sparatic and seems to be destined at creation. Just like I have only 1 toon that has pulled a bloodstone. Luckly he pulled 5 so far.

[FluffyCalico]

As with most things, this is incorrect. Scales are distributed equally throughout the crafting. The difficulty lies within what people perceive as the optimal choice(s) to craft.

So you are saying that mineral 2, raidinace 2, triple pos, triple neg, esterntial stalemate, and coorinate opposition are just thought to be good?

[TechNoFear]

I had to wait until my 19th Shroud to get my first large Arrowhead but got 2 that run.

As with most things, this is incorrect. Scales are distributed equally throughout the crafting.

Not quite evenly.

11 items (of 4 ingredients each) can be made using 6 ingredients but 44 is not evenly divisible by 6.

Shrapnel and Scales are used in 8 items, compared to the other ing. in 7 items.

This is a 12.5% difference, which would appear not to be reflected in the drop rate of either scales or arrowheads.

[Greydeath]

You sure about that?

Is it a perfectly even distribution? No
Are Scales & Stones on the high end? Yes
Are Shrapnel & Bones on the low end? Yes

But the problem is exasperated by what we craft. The 50% increase of requiring 6 Scales rather than 4 adds up quickly.

[Greydeath]

So you are saying that mineral 2,

Over hyped

raidinace 2,

Generally pretty good

triple pos, triple neg,

These have been discounted ad nausea

esterntial stalemate,

... not even tier3

coorinate opposition

Proc rate increase has made it pretty good

But there are many other options that require less desirable ingredients that no one even considers...

[Delt]

Is it a perfectly even distribution? No
Are Scales & Stones on the high end? Yes
Are Shrapnel & Bones on the low end? Yes

But the problem is exasperated by what we craft. The 50% increase of requiring 6 Scales rather than 4 adds up quickly.

Uhh...what? Bottomline is scales are inherantly used in more recipes (per shard, 2-3 scales) whereas others aren't. That leads to shortages.

What are these 6 scale recipes you believe everyone is clamouring towards, exasperating the issue?

But there are many other options that require less desirable ingredients that no one even considers...

Care to list one?

[FluffyCalico]

What are these 6 scale recipes you believe everyone is clamouring towards, exasperating the issue?

Care to list one?

Well since he thinks Min2 is trash and Radiance 2 is great (6 scales for that one) he is clearly a rogue. Think he needs to play more classes.

[Aranticus]

OP will you rant if you do not get any bones for 16 runs? i guess not....

[FluffyCalico]

OP will you rant if you do not get any bones for 16 runs? i guess not....

never mind

[Greydeath]

Well since he thinks Min2 is trash and Radiance 2 is great (6 scales for that one) he is clearly a rogue. Think he needs to play more classes.

Given that you think that Existential Stalemate is a tier3 effect you are clearly obtuse. Furthermore your reading comprehension is lacking – to wit:

Over hyped /= trash. Mineral is sold as a (often ‘the’) DPS option; the numbers show that is simply not the case, yet people buy into the hype. Ergo, by definition ‘over hyped’.

Pretty good /= great. Radiance certainly has its uses until you run into some Fleric swinging a Radiance Mace… probably one of your characters eh Fluffer?

[FluffyCalico]

Given that you think that Existential Stalemate is a tier3 effect

Nope but if you want a tier 3 bounes effect on something that has that for tier 2 guess what yep thats right only 1 choice. And most who have a character that can make use of wisdom from this tier 2 effect make it. +1 for not having a clue what you are quoting.

[Greydeath]

Nope but if you want a tier 3 bounes effect on something that has that for tier 2 guess what yep thats right only 1 choice. And most who have a character that can make use of wisdom from this tier 2 effect make it. +1 for not having a clue what you are quoting.

I know enough to know that if I list a tier3 effect, I do not list its tier2 effect separately. But while obfuscation is your game – you do not play it well. +1 for not having a clue what you are saying.

[Aranticus]

And most who have a character that can make use of wisdom from this tier 2 effect make it. +1 for not having a clue what you are quoting.

if the player is a healbot who isnt expecting to get hit, he/she may not necessary make it into a concordant opposition due to the high large ing usage for an unused effect

[Burtle]

Here's a thought....how bout the reason they aren't droppin' so much in chests is because in the new mod..they'll fall on the Planes of Battle....hm...just a thought...


(again this is just a thought)

[Gorstag]

I once thought there must be something wrong with the drop rate of large devil scales myself. I actually went 32 shroud runs before I had one fall for me, then something really strange happened. Since then I have now pulled 27 large devil scales in estimatingly 40 runs. I think it is all just luck of the draw now. I only know how many because I currently have 27 large scales and am waiting on mod 9 before I craft.