16 Shrouds in 1 week and no Large Devil Scales

[Galacticus]

Wow! I'm glad that the drop rate is balanced.

Suggestion for the DDO Store: Large Devil Scales

[Shade]

Suggestion for u:
Plays less characters so you don't need so many scales lol..

Thats at least 8 chars isnt it..

Droprate is 100% balanced.

Whats off is the amount needed to craft - Large scales are needed more then anything else.

Thats not gonna be changed.

[Greydeath]

Wow! I'm glad that the drop rate is balanced.

While selling scales would indeed work, if you are only doing 16 runs a week you are not farming near enough.

Whats off is the amount needed to craft - Large scales are needed more then anything else.

As with most things, this is incorrect. Scales are distributed equally throughout the crafting. The difficulty lies within what people perceive as the optimal choice(s) to craft.

[ShadowHand2]

Well...last month for the WHOLE month zero large scales dropped for me (that is 4 weeks). I have roughly 7 capped toons that run shroud when ever one is posted. So the drop rate was not so kind for me during that month

[Thrudh]

Well...last month for the WHOLE month zero large scales dropped for me (that is 4 weeks). I have roughly 7 capped toons that run shroud when ever one is posted. So the drop rate was not so kind for me during that month

Same here, but the month before that I must have had 10-15 scales drop for me... I couldn't get a stone to save my life...

This month, I can't get a scale...

Things seem to go in cycles for me in this game... I'll go six months without a +2 tome, then I'll pull 4 of them in 2 weeks... This has happened 3 times (3 times, I've pulled multiple +2 tomes in a short period followed by a long dry spell)

[Delt]

While selling scales would indeed work, if you are only doing 16 runs a week you are not farming near enough.


As with most things, this is incorrect. Scales are distributed equally throughout the crafting. The difficulty lies within what people perceive as the optimal choice(s) to craft.

You sure about that? I'm not saying 100% you are wrong (though I suspect you are), but I can't recall a single recipe where scales are on the lowest end of the ingrediants. I'd challenge you to count the number of recipes that require 0-1 scales for single shards or 0-3 for dual shards....if any. I know of quite a few exist for bones/chains/shrapnel.

[Greydeath]

You sure about that?

Is it a perfectly even distribution? No
Are Scales & Stones on the high end? Yes
Are Shrapnel & Bones on the low end? Yes

But the problem is exasperated by what we craft. The 50% increase of requiring 6 Scales rather than 4 adds up quickly.

[Delt]

Is it a perfectly even distribution? No
Are Scales & Stones on the high end? Yes
Are Shrapnel & Bones on the low end? Yes

But the problem is exasperated by what we craft. The 50% increase of requiring 6 Scales rather than 4 adds up quickly.

Uhh...what? Bottomline is scales are inherantly used in more recipes (per shard, 2-3 scales) whereas others aren't. That leads to shortages.

What are these 6 scale recipes you believe everyone is clamouring towards, exasperating the issue?

But there are many other options that require less desirable ingredients that no one even considers...

Care to list one?

[FluffyCalico]

As with most things, this is incorrect. Scales are distributed equally throughout the crafting. The difficulty lies within what people perceive as the optimal choice(s) to craft.

So you are saying that mineral 2, raidinace 2, triple pos, triple neg, esterntial stalemate, and coorinate opposition are just thought to be good?

[Greydeath]

So you are saying that mineral 2,

Over hyped

raidinace 2,

Generally pretty good

triple pos, triple neg,

These have been discounted ad nausea

esterntial stalemate,

... not even tier3

coorinate opposition

Proc rate increase has made it pretty good

But there are many other options that require less desirable ingredients that no one even considers...

[Lorien_the_First_One]

Is it a perfectly even distribution? No
Are Scales & Stones on the high end? Yes
Are Shrapnel & Bones on the low end? Yes

But the problem is exasperated by what we craft. The 50% increase of requiring 6 Scales rather than 4 adds up quickly.

So if they made a rescipe for a masterwork weapon out of GS that didn't use any scales that would count in the equation of items not needed scales in your book. The issue is that almost 100% of the items people want to craft need scales and generally far more scales than other ingredients.

But there are many other options that require less desirable ingredients that no one even considers...

Tell us more...what uber items and weapons should we be crafting?

[78mackson]

Greydeath thinks min2 is overhyped.. what game do you play? if something is overhyped its the trashmob squasher--(radience)--

[apacheizm23]

So you are saying that mineral 2, raidinace 2, triple pos, triple neg, esterntial stalemate, and coorinate opposition are just thought to be good?

LOL Thats what I said when I saw the other thread Ha..

[TechNoFear]

I had to wait until my 19th Shroud to get my first large Arrowhead but got 2 that run.

As with most things, this is incorrect. Scales are distributed equally throughout the crafting.

Not quite evenly.

11 items (of 4 ingredients each) can be made using 6 ingredients but 44 is not evenly divisible by 6.

Shrapnel and Scales are used in 8 items, compared to the other ing. in 7 items.

This is a 12.5% difference, which would appear not to be reflected in the drop rate of either scales or arrowheads.

[TheDjinnFor]

As with most things, this is incorrect. Scales are distributed equally throughout the crafting. The difficulty lies within what people perceive as the optimal choice(s) to craft.

Sorry buddy.

Not only are large scales and stones used in a lot of the good recipes, they're also used in all recipes in general a proportionally larger share than any other ingredient.

On average, if you pick items completely at random, you'll use 2.5 large scales per supreme shard, 2.17 large stones per supreme shard, 2.00 large chains and arrows per supreme shard, 1.83 large shrapnel per supreme shard, and 1.5 large bones per supreme shard. This is if you pick the manufactured ingredients you use at random.

[FluffyCalico]

Droprate is 100% balanced.

.

But not per character. I have some that have never pulled a scale and others that have pulled 10 of them. The drop rate may be balanced but that does not address that it's very sparatic and seems to be destined at creation. Just like I have only 1 toon that has pulled a bloodstone. Luckly he pulled 5 so far.

[Newtons_Apple]

Suggestion for u:
Plays less characters so you don't need so many scales lol..

Thats at least 8 chars isnt it..

Droprate is 100% balanced.

Whats off is the amount needed to craft - Large scales are needed more then anything else.

Thats not gonna be changed.

I play 9 capped characters, but I don't craft a lot of tier 3 items for each one. Most of them play the role of support for the 1 or 2 who I want to have 3 weapons and 6 items. This may be the way Drak plays as well.

[soupertc]

I have 7 capped toons....run em all through the Shroud. I see Scales as much as anything else. Just sounds like you were unlucky OP.

[Galacticus]

I play 9 capped characters, but I don't craft a lot of tier 3 items for each one. Most of them play the role of support for the 1 or 2 who I want to have 3 weapons and 6 items. This may be the way Drak plays as well.

Shroud Drones, yup. 13 toons...mostly put tier 3's on 5 that I really like to play. Bune for instance has a Freezing Ice Guard necklace, Earthgrab guard cloak, Innervation guard gloves, 2 Min2 rapiers, 1 Min2 bow...total scales used...27? my other toons are drones.

[Veileira]

Droprate is 100% balanced.

Yup, 90% bones and chains! Balanced.