16 Shrouds in 1 week and no Large Devil Scales

[UnderwearModel]

Large Scales I have roughly a 25% drop rate. I had a list someplace where my rarest drop was a small ingredient. I had something like 16 large scales and two of this small ingredient. And that included me doing loot runs on the shroud during LOOT weekends where I just did parts 1 - 3.

The chest in Part IV, now that is a rarity. Rarely do I get a drop there of any ingredient. I just consider that a bonus.

The hardest Shard is the Shard of Power. Never drops on the character I want it on. It only drops on the characters I have crafted with and has three in the bank.

[FluffyCalico]

Large Scales I have roughly a 25% drop rate. I had a list someplace where my rarest drop was a small ingredient. I had something like 16 large scales and two of this small ingredient. And that included me doing loot runs on the shroud during LOOT weekends where I just did parts 1 - 3.

The chest in Part IV, now that is a rarity. Rarely do I get a drop there of any ingredient. I just consider that a bonus.

The hardest Shard is the Shard of Power. Never drops on the character I want it on. It only drops on the characters I have crafted with and has three in the bank.

Lets just say I don't share your #s. I would put large scale at about 7%. However on the bright side I get a ingrediant about 40% of the time from part 4.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

Is it a perfectly even distribution? No
Are Scales & Stones on the high end? Yes
Are Shrapnel & Bones on the low end? Yes

But the problem is exasperated by what we craft. The 50% increase of requiring 6 Scales rather than 4 adds up quickly.

So if they made a rescipe for a masterwork weapon out of GS that didn't use any scales that would count in the equation of items not needed scales in your book. The issue is that almost 100% of the items people want to craft need scales and generally far more scales than other ingredients.

But there are many other options that require less desirable ingredients that no one even considers...

Tell us more...what uber items and weapons should we be crafting?

[FluffyCalico]

Tell us more...what uber items and weapons should we be crafting?

fire-3 scales
water-3 scales
pos-3 scales
neg 2 scales
air-2 scales
earth-2 scales

Looks like nothing with fire water or positive

[Thrudh]

Well...last month for the WHOLE month zero large scales dropped for me (that is 4 weeks). I have roughly 7 capped toons that run shroud when ever one is posted. So the drop rate was not so kind for me during that month

Same here, but the month before that I must have had 10-15 scales drop for me... I couldn't get a stone to save my life...

This month, I can't get a scale...

Things seem to go in cycles for me in this game... I'll go six months without a +2 tome, then I'll pull 4 of them in 2 weeks... This has happened 3 times (3 times, I've pulled multiple +2 tomes in a short period followed by a long dry spell)

[Greydeath]

So if they made a rescipe for a masterwork weapon out of GS that didn't use any scales that would count in the equation of items not needed scales in your book.

As it would in all books.

The issue is that almost 100% of the items people want to craft need scales and generally far more scales than other ingredients.

Yes, as I have said myself. However want /= need and many people that whine about it are building things they clearly do need merely because they can and complaining that they cannot get the ingredients required to do so.

Tell us more...what uber items and weapons should we be crafting?

It would depend upon the specific build. That said, not EVERY character needs Mineral weapons for favor running for example.

[Draccus]

And I've pulled 12 scales in my last 18 Shrouds. I have pulled zero chains in that time period.

[Ganak]

On DDO cast the devs said that large scales can drop in chests in quests where there are devils.

Meaning: With the release, the shroud will not be the only place you can get large devil scales per the devs.

[Enochroot]

It would depend upon the specific build. That said, not EVERY character needs Mineral weapons for favor running for example.

Your big bang after two pages was Min. II is overrated because you don't need it for running FAVOR?!?!!?

That was the BEST you could come up with after flaming away about other's tier 3 choices?

What else are you going to come up with that shouldn't need min. II's?

- we got favor bots
- hagglebots?
- fenrus' cleric that's parked at level 9?

You could've at least gone with something like casters that should make conc. opp/+3 casting stat stuff instead - I was just waiting for a nice big pwnage answer, and you come up with favor running. Pathetic.

[Greydeath]

Your big bang after two pages was Min. II is overrated because you don't need it for running FAVOR?!?!!?

I said Mineral was over hyped because it is.

Does everyone need one? No, absolutely not
Are there people on these boards (in this thread even) that have complained in the past about being unable to get Minerals for all their characters? Yes
What was their justification for it? Favor

Pathetic is not following the forums enough to know this.

[Newtons_Apple]

Suggestion for u:
Plays less characters so you don't need so many scales lol..

Thats at least 8 chars isnt it..

Droprate is 100% balanced.

Whats off is the amount needed to craft - Large scales are needed more then anything else.

Thats not gonna be changed.

I play 9 capped characters, but I don't craft a lot of tier 3 items for each one. Most of them play the role of support for the 1 or 2 who I want to have 3 weapons and 6 items. This may be the way Drak plays as well.

[soupertc]

I have 7 capped toons....run em all through the Shroud. I see Scales as much as anything else. Just sounds like you were unlucky OP.

[TechNoFear]

I said Mineral was over hyped because it is.

Please excuse me if I don't take your word for this.

[Aspenor]

I said Mineral was over hyped because it is.

Does everyone need one? No, absolutely not
Are there people on these boards (in this thread even) that have complained in the past about being unable to get Minerals for all their characters? Yes
What was their justification for it? Favor

Pathetic is not following the forums enough to know this.

Uh, well if my post count doesn't indicate I follow the forums, I don't know what else does.

I have never seen anybody complain about not having mineral II's for favor running purposes....ever. If they did, it wasn't a very big thread because it was dismissed outright and not discussed.

[KKDragonLord]

Responding to the OP:

Weird, i think thats odd, i am a relatively new player with only 2 capped toons and less than 5 months of gameplay,
I pretty much get a devil scale every three to four runs, and i am hoping i'll have enough to make my greatsword before august 4 (need only 2 more now). I had no idea it was so rare.

[kaelis]

Drakk i hear ya... I went 3 weeks (5-6 toons constantly timered) and I managed exclusively arrows and bones, with NO other large ingrediant of any kind on any of my toons.. balanced drop rates sure

[Newtons_Apple]

Responding to the OP:

Weird, i think thats odd, i am a relatively new player with only 2 capped toons and less than 5 months of gameplay,
I pretty much get a devil scale every three to four runs, and i am hoping i'll have enough to make my greatsword before august 4 (need only 2 more now). I had no idea it was so rare.

Learn from my mistakes, and stay away from the greatsword. Make a greataxe for more damage on crits. The crit range may be lower, but the average damage over time is still higher.

P.S. Mail your extra scales to Elmo please. 8D

[apacheizm23]

So you are saying that mineral 2, raidinace 2, triple pos, triple neg, esterntial stalemate, and coorinate opposition are just thought to be good?

LOL Thats what I said when I saw the other thread Ha..

[Thrudh]

Learn from my mistakes, and stay away from the greatsword. Make a greataxe for more damage on crits. The crit range may be lower, but the average damage over time is still higher.

P.S. Mail your extra scales to Elmo please. 8D

Greataxe has larger crits, Greatsword crits more often... Pretty closely balanced.

The main thing the greataxe has going for it is that it swings faster. They are fixing this in Mod 9 (They will both swing at the same speed) so there's nothing wrong with crafting a greatsword.

[Vivanto]

Greataxe has larger crits, Greatsword crits more often... Pretty closely balanced.

The main thing the greataxe has going for it is that it swings faster. They are fixing this in Mod 9 (They will both swing at the same speed) so there's nothing wrong with crafting a greatsword.

On a dwarf, axe may still be better.