Sir Shroudalot

[Yargore]

This character is designed to be the best Shroud farmer without any costly gear at all. With holy sword you will have a good beater.

Name: Sir Shroudalot.
Class: Paladin 16
Race: Human
Allignment: Lawful Good

Base Stats:
Str 16
Dex 16
Con 14
Int 8
Wis 8
Cha 14

Ending Stats:
Str 28 (16 base + 6 item + 4 levels +1 tome +1 enhancement)
Dex 23 (16 base +1 tome +6 item)
Con 22 (14 base + 6 item +1 tome +1 enhancement)
Int 8 (8 base)
Wis 14 (8 base + 6 item)
Cha 20 (14 base + 6 item)

Rage +2 str.

Saves Unbuffed
Fortitude: Good enough
Reflex: Decent
Will: Good enough

Saves Self Buffed
Fortitude: Great
Reflex: Good
Will: Great

Hit Points
160
20 Heroic Durability
96 Con
30 GFL
10 Favor
18 Minos
60 Toughness enhancements
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394
16 Rage pot
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410 HP

Feats:
Level 1: Khopesh, FOP (Change later for PA)
Level 3: Two weapon fighting
Level 6: Improved two weapon fighting
Level 9: Improved critical: slashing
Level 12: Greater two weapon fighting
Level 15: Oversized two weapon fighting

Skills
Balance
Jump

Enhancements
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery III
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice II
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite III
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands III
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil IV
Enhancement: Paladin Racial toughness III
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might

Note
This character is bad overall, but perfect for shroud farming. Will have good dps for a cheap cost.
Created by: Me and A-O.

[Thrudh]

Yep, a very nice pro for a paladin is that you don't have to grind out two mineral II weapons... Holy Sword is awesome...

[Noctus]

but perfect for shroud farming.

Good for Shroud farming? - Yes.

Perfect? - Needs Evasion for that.
One single lag spike can easily mean the end for a non-Evasion melee against Harry, while the melees with Evasion have a much greater leniency for that.

[William_the_Bat]

You list toughness enhancements but didn't actually take the toughness feat? I thought they fixed the minos legens bug, or is that in mod 9?

[Fennario]

You list toughness enhancements but didn't actually take the toughness feat? I thought they fixed the minos legens bug, or is that in mod 9?

Its still broken. Fixed in mod 9. You'd just take toughness at 18 then.

Created by: Me and A-O.

And the other 5000 people who have the same generic human twf pally build.

[Absolute-Omniscience]

Good for Shroud farming? - Yes.

Perfect? - Needs Evasion for that.
One single lag spike can easily mean the end for a non-Evasion melee against Harry, while the melees with Evasion have a much greater leniency for that.

Pefect in the sense of dps without gear. No one will ever die with 410 hp in there. Have you even played shroud? This build will save it and take half, and half of ~250 is hardly enough to kill. No lagg spike will ever kill this character, unless the clerics are extremly bad.
Also recall Loh's and 30% healer friendly.

And the other 5000 people who have the same generic human twf pally build.

Yepp, but theirs have a different purpose, :P. And most probably different stats, enhancements and/or feats.

[Vorn]

Build resembles quite a few of the twf pure pallys about. Love H.S. spell!!!

If you are thinking post mod 9 shrouding, recommend spending the AP's on KotC for the dps and dropping the bulwarks; if dps is your goal those couple of pts of ac don't seem that useful.

[Varr]

Who is this build for?

New player: I wouldn't build this as my one or two only characters to play DDO and farm shroud
Power player: Shroud loops are a by product not a build to quest for that precious tenth character slot.

Build is cheap to run and meh to play......not sure who would benifit from spending the time or slot for it though. Want a funtional shroud character you will run rarely and cheaply in the shroud.....easy to level for a moderate play time character, roll a healbot. Get invited to every shroud out there, and super easy to play one you understand the pools in five.

You could literaly run naked with a superior potency six scepter and be welcome again and again. Halfling. All healing marks, empower, quicken, mt.

[Impaqt]

Actually, I think a Pure ranger with FE: EO, Elemental, Construct, and Gnoll would make a better Cheap Shroud Farmer.

[Absolute-Omniscience]

If you are thinking post mod 9 shrouding, recommend spending the AP's on KotC for the dps and dropping the bulwarks; if dps is your goal those couple of pts of ac don't seem that useful.

Obviously capstone and kotc will be taken.

Who is this build for?

Me and yar, basically people who just moved to US and don't want any loot on said character. Someone who already have a min char and needs a lot of ingreds.

A cleric wouldn't be as efficient as there are more DPS slots than cleric slots, and because clerics from time to time requires majors / heal scrolls even with good sp gear.

Oh, and clerics are boring as hell to play in shroud, so dull and easy to heal. And melee dps is the most fun.

Actually, I think a Pure ranger with FE: EO, Elemental, Construct, and Gnoll would make a better Cheap Shroud Farmer.

As one don't have a good transmuter they would not. Losing ~15 damage each hit wouldn't be good enough. Against arraetrikos.

[Impaqt]

Obviously capstone and kotc will be taken.


Me and yar, basically people who just moved to US and don't want any loot on said character. Someone who already have a min char and needs a lot of ingreds.

A cleric wouldn't be as efficient as there are more DPS slots than cleric slots, and because clerics from time to time requires majors / heal scrolls even with good sp gear.

Oh, and clerics are boring as hell to play in shroud, so dull and easy to heal. And melee dps is the most fun.


As one don't have a good transmuter they would not. Losing ~15 damage each hit wouldn't be good enough. Against arraetrikos.

Getting a hold of a Transmuter of PG isnt that hard. Plus the +14 Fav Enemy Damage and +3 Damage from Rams might already compensates "Just in case"

[Yargore]

Who is this build for?

New player: I wouldn't build this as my one or two only characters to play DDO and farm shroud
Power player: Shroud loops are a by product not a build to quest for that precious tenth character slot.

Build is cheap to run and meh to play......not sure who would benifit from spending the time or slot for it though. Want a funtional shroud character you will run rarely and cheaply in the shroud.....easy to level for a moderate play time character, roll a healbot. Get invited to every shroud out there, and super easy to play one you understand the pools in five.

You could literaly run naked with a superior potency six scepter and be welcome again and again. Halfling. All healing marks, empower, quicken, mt.

It's basicly for powergamers who have rerolled on a new server, and need a cheap toon to farm larges for his main.

[Absolute-Omniscience]

Acutally, I've been playing for what now, 3 weeks or so. I still haven't found more than 2 transmuters, use em both on my rogue for arraetrikos. And far from fiding a "of pg".

But bottom line, you are correct regarding mod 8. But when mod 9 hits the Paladin will FAR outdps said ranger vs arraetrikos for example, which is this chars goal, being good for shroud, in mod 8 as well as mod 9.

[Impaqt]

Acutally, I've been playing for what now, 3 weeks or so. I still haven't found more than 2 transmuters, use em both on my rogue for arraetrikos. And far from fiding a "of pg".

But bottom line, you are correct regarding mod 8. But when mod 9 hits the Paladin will FAR outdps said ranger vs arraetrikos for example, which is this chars goal, being good for shroud, in mod 8 as well as mod 9.

I dont find Transmuters of Pure good all that rare... I pulled 2 in the last week or so. a +4 Longsword and a +5 GreatClub.

I Still dont understand why someone would need to "Farm the shroud" if they were not a powergamer anyway.

All things being Equal on the low end, yes, the Paladin has potential to do more DPS, but Give the Ranger and Paladin some high end gear and the ranger pulls ahead.

[Fennario]

And most probably different stats, enhancements and/or feats.

Um, these stats are pretty standard for a twf human paladin. As are the feats and enhancements. Not sure what the big deal is.

Is it this:

It's basicly for powergamers who have rerolled on a new server, and need a cheap toon to farm larges for his main.

Oh I see. Because powergamers need to know how to build a run of the mill paladin.

[Absolute-Omniscience]

I dont find Transmuters of Pure good all that rare... I pulled 2 in the last week or so. a +4 Longsword and a +5 GreatClub.

I Still dont understand why someone would need to "Farm the shroud" if they were not a powergamer anyway.

All things being Equal on the low end, yes, the Paladin has potential to do more DPS, but Give the Ranger and Paladin some high end gear and the ranger pulls ahead.

Woop, +5 greatclub. :P. Can't really compare to a +5 holy burst khopesh. But I say again, what you are saying is correct for mod 8 a ranger would have been the better choice, but as mod 9 is around the corner we went as paladin to have the highest dps in there.

We need to farm the shroud, and it's hard to find anyone more "Power-gamish" than us. As we just started on the server.

Oh I see. Because powergamers need to know how to build a run of the mill paladin.

You fail to see what this thread is about. It's not to teach players how to make a paladin, it's more like here's a good suggestion of how to do it, and this is what me and yargore is rolling up.
We've made it a habit to post all the builds we roll up.

Um, these stats are pretty standard for a twf human paladin. As are the feats and enhancements. Not sure what the big deal is.

It's not a big deal, that's the point. It's an easy character to cap, ~40 hours of gameplay or so, and when you hit shroud you will be able to deal enough damage to justify being in there.

[kingfisher]

Actually, I think a Pure ranger with FE: EO, Elemental, Construct, and Gnoll would make a better Cheap Shroud Farmer.

this would also have evasion, which is good for all but great for a new player farming the shroud.

[Noctus]

Have you even played shroud?

I point to a weak point in your self-praised build and you answer with an insult?

A remark critical to your build is countered with an argumentum ad hominem, an allegation of being a uninformed noob?

No one will ever die with 410 hp in there. .... This build will save it and take half, and half of ~250 is hardly enough to kill.

Your "perfect" build wont die from a single DFB in there, like any other halfway decent melee build who calls himself a tank. But you also take blades damage, cleaves from harry and will not be at full health all the time.
Stating that 410 HP with a good ref-save is a no-die zone is a simple exaggeration of your build´s capabilities.

No lagg spike will ever kill this character, unless the clerics are extremly bad.
Also recall Loh's and 30% healer friendly.

Lagspikes happen, even more often in high-DPS groups who induce DPS-lag themself. One to two secounds where you are frozen. People have 3/4 of their HP bar displayed, yet are red-named and dead.

Yeah, you are right. Its always the clerics fault when you die.

You make the big claim of having contrived a "perfect" build for a job, yet you seem to be extremly touchy of people who are not instantly swayed to your glorious ideas.

[Lewcipher]

It's not a self praised build. Seems to me it was put out for people that are having issues building chars (that are new, don't have a lot of time etc).

It's a very cheap and very solid DPS build vs Harry. Holy sword rocks, and if you only have one or two chars, this can easily help you create more loot/larges easily.

[Lewcipher]

Note
This character is bad overall, but perfect for shroud farming. Will have good dps for a cheap cost.
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Lets face it this build is gimp.

Seems that was already stated