Planning start PnP with buds, 3.5 or 4.0?

[Krag]

Daily powers can barely hurt anything?

Coming from a mouth of a powergamer, this statement is nothing but hilarious. Try better.


On the side note I agree that Pathfinder is a heap of houserules from some guy without deep understanding of a game.

[flynnjsw]

Daily powers can barely hurt anything?

Coming from a mouth of a powergamer, this statement is nothing but hilarious. Try better.


On the side note I agree that Pathfinder is a heap of houserules from some guy without deep understanding of a game.

I would differentiate by saying that the actual Pathfinder RPG felt that way, while the original 3.75 they did felt like (to me) a more classic D&D feel. IMO, Paizo did a much better job of writing things than WotC/Hasbro.

However leave it to Squelch to oversimplify...

[Therilith]

Numerous repeating doesn't add any truth to a false statement.

Nor does it make a true statement any less so.

[Krag]

Nor does it make a true statement any less so.

Even a true statement has no value without solid arguments to back it up. Much less the false one.

[SquelchHU]

Daily powers can barely hurt anything?

Coming from a mouth of a powergamer, this statement is nothing but hilarious. Try better.


On the side note I agree that Pathfinder is a heap of houserules from some guy without deep understanding of a game.

Yup, you're lucky if it takes off 10% of their health, and that's on an optimized build. It's why most of the optimized 4th edition builds are 'you can't hurt me, ever' or an infinite damage loop because it's very easy to get enough defense to be effectively infinite when you don't need that much, and the system is so easy to break that getting a truly infinite amount of something is not hard either. Trouble is, there's not a middle ground where stuff dies without a huge grind, but you aren't using an infinite loop.

I do find it very entertaining that Krag chose to get involved in this, and what his role is here.

[zorander6]

3.5 all the way, don't bother with 4.0

Just my not so humble opinion.

[Krag]

Yup, you're lucky if it takes off 10% of their health, and that's on an optimized build. It's why most of the optimized 4th edition builds are 'you can't hurt me, ever' or an infinite damage loop because it's very easy to get enough defense to be effectively infinite when you don't need that much, and the system is so easy to break that getting a truly infinite amount of something is not hard either. Trouble is, there's not a middle ground where stuff dies without a huge grind, but you aren't using an infinite loop.

Blah. Blah.
Using daily powers optimized ranger takes down any non-solo enemy of his level within one round.

[SquelchHU]

3.5 all the way, don't bother with 4.0

Just my not so humble opinion.

A voice of reason.

[Glenalth]

Honestly, you'll probably be happy with either one. They each have their good and bad points. In the end it's not about the system, it's about the players.

4th does rely on tracking effects/marks a bit more so you'll probably want some sort of game software or site that will display a map and tokens for your encounters. There are a lot of options out there.

[KKDragonLord]

After giving either one of those a GO, try 2e and tailor it to your tastes with the optional rules you might want (i would advise against the ones requiring the combat grid though).

Post your impressions aftewards.

[timberhick]

Nothing we say here actually matters to how you and your group will play magnvix. All we can do is post our own opinions and they mean squat to you.

Trust me, if you haven't already noticed, people are more than willing to post not to subtle of rhetorical statements about the "One True System"