Disappointment in The Playerbase.

[Heffty_Smurf]

"The next day i got ANOTHER group together to do STK and Helm's, this time on Elite"


Reading comprehension for the win . Hefty read a little closer next time . Sorry you haven't had the best of luck with groups. There are some good people out there just takes a bit to find them and welcome to DDO

um my original post was directed to his being upset at the redfang party and leaving. i would also leave a noob behind if they couldnt keep up and i can understand if he didnt say anything why they didnt make him thier first priority. i understand that he formed the stk group and if he wanted to do the extra USELESS quest then that should have been advertised.

[captain1z]

um my original post was directed to his being upset at the redfang party and leaving. i would also leave a noob behind if they couldnt keep up and i can understand if he didnt say anything why they didnt make him thier first priority. i understand that he formed the stk group and if he wanted to do the extra USELESS quest then that should have been advertised.

I run redfang normal hard and elite back to back in 21 mins. I WILL finish the quest if the group is there or not. I let the group know before hand and if they want me to drop I have no problems. Or you can get 3 easy completions with favor and loot. I dont go back for anyone in this quest either.............. mostly because once you've jumped down that shaft its really hard to get back up and after the 2nd shaft its not even possible.

and also because spped for me in this quest is a matter of pride.

[transtemporal]

But there is a difference between a NEW player and a NEW player that is forming selfish play habits, blames everyone else and has a know-it-all attitude.

QFT on your whole post Delt, but this most of all. Nice reading between the lines.

[Phantomizer]

First of all, thanks for the replies everyone (even those who were just plain nasty) aswell as the advice offered, some i've already been using and other i will start using.

Second, i would have liked to reply to each and every post people made here, but unfortunately i only limited myself to the first 2 pages yesterday as replying to all of the 4 pages worth of posts at the time would have taken me the better part of my evening.

Now, a few things things i'ld like to further clarify, for the reading impaired.

1)
I'm not looking for someone to hand guide me or give my in-game money, TYVM, the offer is appreciated but unlike what some are assuming (again) i actually do like to earn my stuff on my own.

2)
Yes, my post was partly guided by frustration and i did probably call one too many idiots. Don't really regret it, i wouldn't get mad if i'm told to block and i attack resulting in the death of my entire group, instead i would simply apologize. However, thats nobody's fault here (at least i don't think the person on that day has posted here, but than again, i wouldn't know).

3)
I won't take offense at being called a noob, although i rarely call others that, but here's a simple question: How was i supposed to know where the traps in Redfang were in order to avoid them? FURTHERMORE, how was i supposed to know that the group could not come back for me? Since i can't guess whether someone in my group is new or not, when they die, i usually try to point out whats going to happen (i.e Don't rez, shrine up ahead or Can't help, no shrine, sorry).

Now there's someone who posted about rogues coming back to disarm traps AFTER finishing the dungeon, well, i'ld like to point something out to the "Mr Brighthead" who posted that comment. After finishing a dungeon, you DO NOT get anymore XP, only for killing bosses left behind (Breaking stuff, conquest, secret doors, traps and so on DO NOT give you any XP bonuses after finishing the quest or in other words, getting XP rewarded).

[akla_thornfist]

sorry if some of us came off as ******s but the forums have been loaded with threads blamming vets for everything, new players saying we dont help or that we zerg to fast or whatever and frankly im sick of it.

this game would have died along time ago if it wasnt for the great players that have stuck it out through good times and bad.

[Kistilan]

This thread is full of crazy.

Also, the New Player forums and Player-Written Guide forums would alleviate most "noob" accuasations, questions & situational references.

Big waste of time.

If you have questions, ask. If you really want to pick a fight, yeah, come to the server forum & throw up your best non-referencing accusation. Someone will step to the plate usually and if you don't know your stuff you're going to get ridiculed, even if your argument is sound & you definitely were wronged. Such is the way of the Internet & Anonymity. May the biggest computer win.

[dominp]

Days later, i got a group together to do STK, all objectives....including Helm's Quest. Once the time came to do Helm's there was someone who didn't want to do it, said i only said ALL side objectives and that Helm's was a quest, not side objective.

So for your post here on the forums you put "...including Helm's Quest.", were you afraid we might not know what "all objectives" was referring to???
But for some reason you felt people in the game would know exactly what you meant so didnt include it in your LFM????
That simple step would have saved you the headache.

caster (me) goes in the left corner while the rest form a line and guard to prevent the giant from getting to the caster (me) while the caster (me) pommels the giant with Magic Missle, simple right? I guess that was too much fr our cleric to understand because instead of simply guarding, he started attacking the giant........

Nimbus of Light and Adamantine work great on him..clerics can do more then just be spam healers.

Now, usually Helm's is done AFTER part 2 of STK is finished, that way once we go in, do Helm's, we simply port out, sell loot, repair gear, etc and than go back down and enter part 3 from the sewers. Well, i got in a group this past weekend with my Cleric to do STK and Helm's, apperantly our caster wanted to do Helm's BEFORE finishing part 2, it can be done, but it's much easier to go with the above method. Well, we all go about breaking stuff for the extra XP and hunting the Witch-Doctors and the mage breaks group and runs for Helm's......and gets killed........and starts complaining...the rest of the idiots in the group follow the mage and go down Helm's and what do the bright heads do? leave the cleric......they didn't simply "leave" the cleric behind, but they left him DEAD. ***? i rez, wish them luck and leave the group.

If everybody else left...isn't it you who abandoned the group????

[Elsbet]

This thread makes Baby Jesus cry. If you make Baby Jesus cry, lightning will strike you. Chain lightning... From mobs with ridiculous saves when you hit them back...

[Newtons_Apple]

This thread makes Baby Jesus cry. If you make Baby Jesus cry, lightning will strike you. Chain lightning... From mobs with ridiculous saves when you hit them back...

I like to think of my Baby Jesus as a mischevious badger...

[Neebs]

I like to think of my Baby Jesus as a mischevious badger...

byup!

[Strakeln]

A little bit of communication on your end will go a long way, OP. The playerbase doesn't have very many telepaths.

[Cap_Man]

Now there's someone who posted about rogues coming back to disarm traps AFTER finishing the dungeon, well, i'ld like to point something out to the "Mr Brighthead" who posted that comment. After finishing a dungeon, you DO NOT get anymore XP, only for killing bosses left behind (Breaking stuff, conquest, secret doors, traps and so on DO NOT give you any XP bonuses after finishing the quest or in other words, getting XP rewarded).

Hello, Mr Brighthead here.

Jeez, I'm nice to the guy, give him advice, suggest he check out my guild, give him links to guild listings and this is what I get for my trouble.

Here is what I wrote:

'Traps on normal and even hard can be pretty weak so people will often blow through them to get to the mobs and then, if you are looking for xp, will come back and get the trap after.'

Hmm, where do I say 'disarm traps AFTER finishing the dungeon' ?

How about this:
1) run through trap
2) dispatch Mob on other side
3) run back through trap
4) disarm
.
.
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152) Finish the dungeon

So you wont call others a 'Noob' but 'Mr Brighthead' is fair game? Nice.

You could of posted 'Did you mean to finish the dungeon ..' or something like that but no let's just jump to conclusions, through in some extra words and be insulting about it. Think I'm starting to see where the problem is here.

[Kalundan]

This thread delivers.

Sarlona needs more dramadies like this.

[SableShadow]

Sarlona needs more dramadies like this.

Sarlona needs more camels?

[Kalundan]

Sarlona needs more camels?

more cowbell?

[Jingle Jangle]

[Phantomizer]

Hello, Mr Brighthead here.

Jeez, I'm nice to the guy, give him advice, suggest he check out my guild, give him links to guild listings and this is what I get for my trouble.

Here is what I wrote:

'Traps on normal and even hard can be pretty weak so people will often blow through them to get to the mobs and then, if you are looking for xp, will come back and get the trap after.'

Hmm, where do I say 'disarm traps AFTER finishing the dungeon' ?

How about this:
1) run through trap
2) dispatch Mob on other side
3) run back through trap
4) disarm
.
.
.
152) Finish the dungeon

So you wont call others a 'Noob' but 'Mr Brighthead' is fair game? Nice.

You could of posted 'Did you mean to finish the dungeon ..' or something like that but no let's just jump to conclusions, through in some extra words and be insulting about it. Think I'm starting to see where the problem is here.

My bad, sorry.

And i do appreciate the link you gave me.

[Cap_Man]

My bad, sorry.

And i do appreciate the link you gave me.

Apology accepted, thank you.

[Aerilyn]

Thanks to all of my fellow zergers for sticking together. Hefty I hope your bad stays full and to all of my fellow ZERGERS. I can't wait to see this whole NONZERG System go BOOM after we all solo Monestery at the same time LOL

Bergy

[Kalari]

This thread delivers.

Sarlona needs more dramadies like this.

lol do not wish that on our quiet thread!

OP I dunno what to say to you, your post condemned the entire playerbase for things that would have been easily smoothed over with strong communication. As a member of the playerbase that your disappointed in I can just say maybe try running on different servers expanding your knowledge of the game a little more before condemning everyone. Either way as for your pnp knowledge many of us have that and we learned ddo is not pnp you learn to adapt and meet people at your pace of game play. Thats what many of us did and continue to do. If your gonna stick around id say try following a little more learning all of the game before you assume you have the right to tell anyone how to play it and watch what you say about the playerbase yeah we have jerks but you may just **** off a nice person who would have helped you as well with your better then thou tone.

[Lerincho]

A little bit of communication on your end will go a long way, OP. The playerbase doesn't have very many telepaths.

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