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    Default Ranged fighter DPS build?

    looking for a Ranged DPS fighter build (Bows). No I AM serious.
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    Elf
    Rgr1/Ftr18/Wiz1
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    Arcane Archer

    High Str & Dex

    Take all the ranged feats
    But most important is Bow Str, Manyshot, and Improved Crit Ranged.
    Add Improved precise shot.

    And you could be almost as good an archer as a pure Rgr w/Improved Crit Ranged.
    Plus the Rgr capstone will probaby make a better archer than the Ftr build.

    But IMO the Ftr build is the best archer possible for lvls 1-19.
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    What feats are required for bow strength?
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    Im thinking Kensai III and capstone with WF ranged might be on par with the ranger + capstone?
    Last edited by baddax; 07-12-2009 at 01:20 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baddax View Post
    What feats are required for bow strength?
    Ah...I forgot that it's supposed to be a choosable feat in Mod 9.
    But I don't know the prereqs. Not sure if they are posted to the compendium yet or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baddax View Post
    Im thinking Kensai III and capstone with WF ranged might be on par with the ranger + capstone?
    Well, originally they said the Rgr capstone is +25% to ranged speed....hard to top that.
    But the current desription says nothing about +25%....only that it is legendary.
    Makes me think it is going to be less than +25%....but I do not know.

    Ftr capstone gives +10%.
    I would like to try a pure Ftr build archer actually. But 20 lvls is a lot to devote to an experiement. lol.

    I had an all Ftr archer up to lvl 14....but then I took a lvl of Rgr for bow Str. And took a second lvl of Rgr before I heard about Kensei.....very mad now. Too much invested in him to reroll.

    But he was the best Archer I have seen in game so far.

    And lvl 1-19 is lot of fun playtime IMO.


    Maybe I'll roll up another someday.

    I need to know about Bow Str as a trainable feat first though.

    And would like confirmation of the Rgr capstone too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talon_Moonshadow View Post
    Well, originally they said the Rgr capstone is +25% to ranged speed....hard to top that.
    But the current desription says nothing about +25%....only that it is legendary.
    Makes me think it is going to be less than +25%....but I do not know.

    Ftr capstone gives +10%.
    I would like to try a pure Ftr build archer actually. But 20 lvls is a lot to devote to an experiement. lol.

    I had an all Ftr archer up to lvl 14....but then I took a lvl of Rgr for bow Str. And took a second lvl of Rgr before I heard about Kensei.....very mad now. Too much invested in him to reroll.

    But he was the best Archer I have seen in game so far.

    And lvl 1-19 is lot of fun playtime IMO.


    Maybe I'll roll up another someday.

    I need to know about Bow Str as a trainable feat first though.

    And would like confirmation of the Rgr capstone too.

    Qft. which is why i was trying to ge some feedback before attempting.
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    here is the link for Bow Strength as a selected feat... http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Feat:Bow_Strength
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    I don't think Bow Strength is in Mod 9 I think its a mod 10 thingy...

    I'm thinking Elf Bard1/Fighter18/x

    Max out UMD and Diplomacy
    Kensai III
    Arcane Archer III
    Bow Strength when it comes out

    you get the idea


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    Go with a bard splash over wizard. It gives you umd which rules on that build.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesop View Post
    I don't think Bow Strength is in Mod 9 I think its a mod 10 thingy...

    I'm thinking Elf Bard1/Fighter18/x

    Max out UMD and Diplomacy
    Kensai III
    Arcane Archer III
    Bow Strength when it comes out

    you get the idea


    Aesop

    Take a level of ranger. The difference between 19 fighter and 18 fighter is nothing, but 1 ranger adds the bow strength feat, 6+ skill points, a ranger favored enemy, sprint boost and +2 reflex/+2 fort. Go with 1 bard 18 fighter 1 ranger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aesop View Post
    I don't think Bow Strength is in Mod 9 I think its a mod 10 thingy...

    I'm thinking Elf Bard1/Fighter18/x

    Max out UMD and Diplomacy
    Kensai III
    Arcane Archer III
    Bow Strength when it comes out

    you get the idea


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    Switch Bard 1 for Rogue 1. Same thing, get some trapsmithing skills if that's your thing, and get a bit of backstab.

    If Bow STR is a trainable feat, go Rog 1/Ftr 18/1 Barb. Rage+Manyshot+Power Surge will probably be amazing.

    If Bow STR isn't trainable, go Rog 1/Ftr 18/Rgr 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lymnus View Post
    Switch Bard 1 for Rogue 1. Same thing, get some trapsmithing skills if that's your thing, and get a bit of backstab.

    If Bow STR is a trainable feat, go Rog 1/Ftr 18/1 Barb. Rage+Manyshot+Power Surge will probably be amazing.

    If Bow STR isn't trainable, go Rog 1/Ftr 18/Rgr 1
    You need a level of bard, wiz, or sorc for arcane archer so the op should go with bard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    You need a level of bard, wiz, or sorc for arcane archer so the op should go with bard.
    Believe you can also take Mental Toughness and be an Elf as a prereq.

    EDIT: Yep. You can.
    http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Enhan...rcane_Archer_I
    With being mainly fighter, I'm *sure* you can fit MT in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lymnus View Post
    Believe you can also take Mental Toughness and be an Elf as a prereq.

    EDIT: Yep. You can.
    http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Enhan...rcane_Archer_I
    With being mainly fighter, I'm *sure* you can fit MT in there.
    can't take mental toughness unless you have SP already
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lymnus View Post
    Believe you can also take Mental Toughness and be an Elf as a prereq.

    EDIT: Yep. You can.
    http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Enhan...rcane_Archer_I
    With being mainly fighter, I'm *sure* you can fit MT in there.
    You can not take the feat mental toughness unless you can cast spells which is why you need to take a level of bard, sorc, wiz, 4 levels of ranger, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maddmatt70 View Post
    You can not take the feat mental toughness unless you can cast spells which is why you need to take a level of bard, sorc, wiz, 4 levels of ranger, etc.
    You're right, for some reason, I was thinking this was 18 levels of ranger. Dunno why I was thinking that.

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    By the way I rolled up and levelled up a 14 fighter 1 bard 1 ranger character. The character was pretty fun. I had all the key bow feats, the twf feats and improved crit pierce as well as a very high umd (close to no fail heal scrolls). The character could really do alot of different things which was great. I was gearing out the char, but the ranger capstone came out whcih meant I would always be behind a pure ranger in dps so alas I deleted her.

    To those people who are arguing take a level of something else other then 1 ranger and 1 bard I disagree the case for both are pretty compelling. A level of ranger even when bow strength comes out as a feat is pretty awesome and a level of bard for the umd and the ability to qualify for arcane archer with mental toughness also pretty compelling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baddax View Post
    What feats are required for bow strength?
    Required:
    +4 BAB
    Weapon Focus: Ranged
    Point Blank Shot

    One of the Following:
    Weapon Specialization Ranged
    Combat Expertise
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