The Hate Monster (mod 9 concept build)

[Robinton]

Thanimal,

Thanks for the explanations. Unfortunately, I had already leveled and now have oTWF and am using two large weapons. No biggie as most mobs have a hard time hitting me (as you know). Oh yeah, Bodyfeeder for the win! I already had great solo ability, but with Bodyfeeder - it is sick!

Looking forward to a nice holiday weekend with lots of play time! Have a good one.

Rob

PS - I have 10 tapestries (my main is exploring in Orchard) and will easily have enough for a Minos Legens by the time I reach 11. I may get enough for two :P.

[Nettrekker]

I just recently rolled a similar character using you Monster build as the main focal point. You only showed 4 level bumps for Str, so I put all 5 bumps there and then only took Fighter STR II instead of three. I also took OTWD, and then took TWD later. My version does not use CE at all (just not something I normally take). Otherwise I love this build and its a lot of fun to play.

Thanks



Frankenstein (my version of the Monster)

Warforged – Fighter (Defender) 12 / Ranger (Tempest) 6 / Monk 2

Strength 16 [35] +2 tome, +2 Fighter, +5 bumps, +6 item, +3 stance
Dexterity 16 [26] +2 tome, +2 Ranger, +6 item
Constitution 11 [24] +2 tome, +2 Racial, +6 item, +3 stance
Intelligence 11 [13] +2 tome
Wisdom 13 [22] +2 tome, +1 monk, +6 item]
Charisma 06 [08] +2 tome

Level 1: Ranger – iDR, Favored Enemy: Undead
Level 2: Ranger
Level 3: Monk – iDR, Dodge
Level 4: Monk – Toughness
Level 5: Fighter – OTWF
Level 6: Fighter – iDR, Exotic Weapon: Khopesh (re-spec to Mobility @ 12)
Level 7: Fighter
Level 8: Fighter – iTWF (re-spec to Spring Attack @14)
Level 9: Fighter – Weapon Focus: Slashing
Level 10: Fighter – iCrit: Slashing
Level 11: Ranger
Level 12: Ranger – Exotic Weapon: Khopesh (re-spec EW: Khopesh to Mobility prior to leveling)
Level 13: Ranger – Favored Enemy: Undead
Level 14: Ranger – (re-spec iTWF to Spring Attack prior to leveling)
Level 15: Fighter – gTWF
Level 16: Fighter – Power Attack
Level 17: Fighter
Level 18: Fighter – iDR, TWD
Level 19: Fighter
Level 20: Fighter – Weapon Spec: Slashing

Warforged Damage Reduction: I, II, III
Ranger Tempest: I
Ranger Dexterity: I, II
Monk Wisdom: I
Fighter Haste Boost: I, II
Fighter Strength: I, II
Fighter Intimidate: I, II
Fighter AC Boost: I, II
Fighter Item Defense: I
Fighter Toughness: I, II, III
Fighter Stalwart Defender: I, II
Warforged Construct Thinking: I
Warforged Healers Friend: I
Warforged Brute Fighting: I, II, III, IV
Warforged Constitution: I, II
Ranger Sprint Boost: I
Fighter Khopesh Spec: I
Warforged Toughness: I, II, III
Fighter Critical Accuracy: I

[ivanbss]

Im curious about how this build gona work on the next patch after the monk changes:

* Monks now automatically receive the first tier of elemental stances for free. These are available in the character’s Feat list as a granted feat. Selecting a philosophy will now automatically grant Fists of Light or Fists of Darkness, which will also be found in the character’s Feat list.
* Lists of common finishing moves are now visible in the feats list. As a result of these changes, most monks should find that their enhancements have been reset.
* The Monk's Curse of Healing and Touch of Despair effects now have visual effects on their targets.
* The Two Weapon Fighting and Two Handed Fighting feats have been added to the martial arts feat list available to monks at levels 1, 2, and 6.
* The original monk paths have been replaced with new paths that better incorporate the changes that have been made to the class. Characters that are currently on one of the three paths will continue to remain on it, but newly created monks will have a choice of the Shintao Monk, Ninja Spy, or Henshin Mystic paths.

[celestinek]

What about taking a lvl of war out and adding a splash of barbarian for the rage?

[Jiipster]

What about taking a lvl of war out and adding a splash of barbarian for the rage?

You can only take three classes, and the three taken are at optimal breakpoints.

[emptysands]

I've put this together for my own use while considering various builds. It might be useful to others:

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.34
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Vartan Hate Monster
Level 20 Lawful Neutral Warforged Male
(12 Fighter \ 2 Monk \ 6 Ranger) 
Hit Points: 296
Spell Points: 70 
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 17
Will: 12

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    26
Dexterity            16                    20
Constitution         11                    15
Intelligence         11                    13
Wisdom               13                    16
Charisma              6                     8

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               5                    25
Bluff                -2                    -1
Concentration         4                     9
Diplomacy            -2                    -1
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -2                    -1
Heal                  1                     3
Hide                  3                     5
Intimidate            0                    28
Jump                  7                    21
Listen                1                     3
Move Silently         3                     5
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                     1
Search                4                     5
Spot                  5                    16
Swim                  3                     8
Tumble                n/a                   8
Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Selected) Improved Damage Reduction


Level 2 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)


Level 3 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+3)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Improved Damage Reduction


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness


Level 5 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+3)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Weapon Defense


Level 6 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+3)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Damage Reduction
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Mobility


Level 7 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+2)


Level 8 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Spring Attack


Level 9 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Combat Expertise


Level 11 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spot (+3)


Level 12 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+3)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Spell (1): Camouflage
Spell (1): Jump
Spell (1): Longstrider
Spell (1): Merfolk's Blessing
Spell (1): Ram's Might
Spell (1): Resist Energy
Spell (1): Summon Nature's Ally I
Spell (1): Tumble


Level 13 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spot (+2)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider


Level 14 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spot (+2)


Level 15 (Fighter)
Skill: Intimidate (+3)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Intimidate (+3)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack


Level 17 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 18 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Damage Reduction
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons


Level 19 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)


Level 20 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender I
Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender II
Enhancement: Fighter Khopesh Specialization I
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense I
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate I
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate II
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength III
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Warforged Brute Fighting I
Enhancement: Warforged Brute Fighting II
Enhancement: Warforged Brute Fighting III
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II
Enhancement: Warforged Construct Thinking I
Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction I
Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction II
Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction III
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I

[Musashiclaw]

Thanimal,
What Items does Vehemuth your Hate Monster wear? What is his standing HP and AC without all the buffs you mentioned.
Did you change any of your enhancements or idea's on this build from whats posted with edits on the first page?

[Henuindohr]

Probably i'm going to say something dumb, but you use stellward defense with Tempest!? If it is there is a problem, those can't stack; defense requires you to wear the shield, tempest requires you wield two weapons... i can't undesrad how you can have more tha 90 AC

[Henuindohr]

AC at 16
Without farming
10 base
9 DT docent
1 alchemical
8 dex
6 wis
5 CE
2 Tempest
5 Deflection
2 stance
1 Defender
1 Dodge feat
1 TWD
2 Chaosgarde
1 Centered Bonus
---
54

Standard self-buff
1 Haste
3 Bark
---
58

"Easy buffs"
+2 Ranger
+4 Bard
---
64 (actually a bit better than target)

With farming
3 Dodge
4 Insight
---
71

Slightly less likely buffs
+5 Paladin
+2 Recitation
---
78

Favored Enemy
79

Even more uber equipment
+2 DEX from +3 Tome and +3 exceptional bonus (Lightning Strike weapon)
+2 WIS from +3 Tome and +3 exceptional bonus (ring)
---
83

All-out defensive pose (Wind Stance and Kamas)
+1 DEX from Wind Stance
---
84

Short-term
+2 Shield clickie
---
86

Very short term
+3 Fighter AC boost (it's a prereq to Defender, might as well use it!)
---
89

Stuff that hits at 20
+1 Defender II
+1 Defender Stance II
---
91

I don't understand how do you get 91 AC; since Defender and Tempest don't stack because the first requires shied and the second require to wield two weapons. May be i'm telling something Dumb, but i want to understand that build. thx!
[excause me for my bad english, isn't my language]

[cforce]

I don't understand how do you get 91 AC; since Defender and Tempest don't stack because the first requires shied and the second require to wield two weapons. May be i'm telling something Dumb, but i want to understand that build. thx!
[excause me for my bad english, isn't my language]

Only the DR portion of the Stalwart bonuses depend on using a shield; the AC bonuses apply regardless of weapon sets.

[Merlocke]

AC at 16
Without farming
10 base
9 DT docent
1 alchemical

how do you get 9 AC from DT? Been away for a bit but I thought it was lower than that.