Proposal; Assassin

[Inspire]

Built for Nereid. 16(20) True Neutral Halfling Female.


Stats;

12Str - +2Tome +6Item = 20Str
17Dex - +2Tome +5Enhancement +6Item +2Crafted +4Level = 36Dex
14Con - +2Tome +6Item = 22Con
16Int - +2Tome +6Item = 24Int
9Wis - +1Tome +6Item* = 16Wis
9Cha - +1Tome +6Item* = 16Cha


Hps;

96 Rogue
96 Constituion
20 Heroic
10 Draconic
30 GFL
45 Crafted
20 Enhancement
18 Toughness
18 Helm
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353 Hps Unbuffed


Ac;

10 Base
13 Dexterity
07(06) Bracers/ Thranes
05 Protection
03 Ring
04 Outfit
04 Insight
01 Ritual
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47(46) Unbuffed
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03 Potion
01 Haste
04 Shield Wand
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55(54) Self Buffed
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02 Ranger
05 Paladin
04 Bard
02 Cleric
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68(67) Raid Buffed
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03 Shield
01 Ritual
06 Uncanny Dodge
02 Defensive Fighting
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80(79) Situational


Assassinate DC;

10 Base
16(20) Rogue
7 Intelligence
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33(37) Assassinate


Gear;

Goggles; Thranes
Helm; Minos Legens
Necklace; Constitution 6/ Silver Flame Talisman
Trinket; Bloodstone/ Head of Good Fortune
Cloak; Mineral2 (10/15/20) Protection 5 & Heavy Fortification
Belt; PAP of GFL
Ring(Left); Chattering Ring/ Charisma 6/ Constituion 6(SF Swap)
Gloves; Strength 6
Boots; Madstone
Ring(Right); Tumbleweed
Bracers; +7 Armor/ Thranes(GT)

DT Vestments; Resistance 5/ Wisdom 6/ Radiance Guard
Icy Raiment

Radaince2 Rapier; Intelligence 6/ Goodburst/ +4 Insight
Lightning2 Rapier; Shock/ Goodburst/ +2 Deterity

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Level 16 True Neutral Halfling Female
(16 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 202
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 12\12\17\22
Fortitude: 10
Reflex: 20
Will: 8

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 16)
Strength             12                    14
Dexterity            17                    28
Constitution         14                    16
Intelligence         16                    18
Wisdom                9                    10
Charisma              9                    10

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 1

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
Balance               8                    28
Bluff                 3                    25
Concentration         3                     3
Diplomacy             4                    19
Disable Device        8                    23
Haggle                0                     0
Heal                  0                     0
Hide                  8                    38
Intimidate            0                     0
Jump                  6                    23
Listen                0                     2
Move Silently         8                    38
Open Lock             8                    28
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                4                     4
Search                8                    23
Spot                  4                    19
Swim                  2                     2
Tumble                5                    24
Use Magic Device      4                    19

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 2 (Rogue)


Level 3 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse


Level 4 (Rogue)


Level 5 (Rogue)


Level 6 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 7 (Rogue)


Level 8 (Rogue)


Level 9 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Cripling Strike


Level 11 (Rogue)


Level 12 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons


Level 13 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion


Level 14 (Rogue)


Level 15 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Slippery Mind
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning I
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning II
Enhancement: Halfling Guile I
Enhancement: Halfling Guile II
Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Fortitude)
Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Will)
Enhancement: Halfling Luck II (Will)
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabber I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III
Enhancement: Way of the Assassin I
Enhancement: Way of the Assassin II
Enhancement: Rogue Hide I
Enhancement: Rogue Hide II
Enhancement: Rogue Move Silently I
Enhancement: Rogue Move Silently II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity III

* Not needed all the time, so swap accordingly.

[Borror0]

Built for Nereid.

If the character does not have a coo Perform (Dance) skill, it's useless.

[Borror0]

16(20) True Neutral Halfling Female.

Normally, I'd say to at least splash on level of monk or fighter but I think Nereid will need Cheat Death, a lot.

Good choice.

16Int - +2Tome +6Item = 24Int
9Wis - +1Tome +6Item* = 16Wis

Those skills will have to be higher, to overcome Nereid's inherent lack of Intelligence and Wisdom.

[Syriania]

You are such a meanie, Sammie!
I'm telling Erda!

[Aranticus]

pretty much the same as what i did with atomu except i started with 8 wis and 8 cha. i also note that you did not have an int item on. i would lose minos, make a min2 helm in place and prolly get reaver cloak

[Inspire]

Normally, I'd say to at least splash on level of monk or fighter but I think Nereid will need Cheat Death, a lot.

Good choice.

You speak the truth, she wanted to be pure aswell.

Those skills will have to be higher, to overcome Nereid's inherent lack of Intelligence and Wisdom.

Well she makes up for it in Charisma... she'd make a good Bard I think, except for the lack of vocal talent.

[Inspire]

pretty much the same as what i did with atomu except i started with 8 wis and 8 cha. i also note that you did not have an int item on. i would lose minos, make a min2 helm in place and prolly get reaver cloak

Gah I actually meant to make the Radiance2 Rapier's first tier Intelligence 6. Although your suggestion is viable aswell, leaving the helm open for something like a -/-/- Immunity item or Radiance +2Charisma Skills/+4 Intelligence Skills in the future might be nice too.

[Borror0]

Well she makes up for it in Charisma... she'd make a good Bard I think, except for the lack of vocal talent.

Nope. Nereid would make a good sorcerer, with Silent Spell.

Nereid's Charisma drops drastically the moment she opens her mouth.

[Inspire]

Nope. Nereid would make a good sorcerer, with Silent Spell.

Nereid's Charisma drops drastically the moment she opens her mouth.

I do not envy the beating you will recieve from her after that comment.

*zips lips*

[Syriania]

I do not envy the beating you will recieve from her after that comment.

*zips lips*

He can't get a beating - he never logs on, he just trolls the forums!

[Borror0]

He can't get a beating - he never logs on, he just trolls the forums!

I log on once in a while, but no one is there any more! Even Vent is deserted!

Might have to go bug you guys on LOTRO. If I remember right, it's free this week, right? Might roll a character on Arkenstone.

[Draccus]

I didn't read it all but one thing jumped out at me in the equipment list.

Any assassin build made now should reserve the belt slot for the new assassin item set. With the NDA listed, we can post the stats. The belt is part of a set that includes a ring. The belt itself has +6 Con and Proof against poison. I already re-tooled Dresek's gear to move Con to his belt slot (from the neck slot) in preparation for this new set.

I don't think anyone's seen the ring yet but we know each set includes a ring. The set bonus gives an increase in attack and damage on sneak attacks to any character. It also gives anyone with the Assassin III enhancement the chance to level drain a target on a hit.

[kamimitsu]

Looks good, but I'd be inclined to save some of those APs spent on Dexterity for something else (or starting at a lower DEX and using the build points elsewhere). 36 is a bit of overkill, in my opinion, unless you are going for crazy AC. Crazy AC makes swapping items a bit more of a chore, and it may not even be that relevant on a Dex build in the next Mod considering grazing blows.

[Inspire]

I didn't read it all but one thing jumped out at me in the equipment list.

Any assassin build made now should reserve the belt slot for the new assassin item set. With the NDA listed, we can post the stats. The belt is part of a set that includes a ring. The belt itself has +6 Con and Proof against poison. I already re-tooled Dresek's gear to move Con to his belt slot (from the neck slot) in preparation for this new set.

I don't think anyone's seen the ring yet but we know each set includes a ring. The set bonus gives an increase in attack and damage on sneak attacks to any character. It also gives anyone with the Assassin III enhancement the chance to level drain a target on a hit.

Im well aware of the set, although its really not a big deal to swap items once M9 goes live, dont need to prepare for it.

[Inspire]

Looks good, but I'd be inclined to save some of those APs spent on Dexterity for something else (or starting at a lower DEX and using the build points elsewhere). 36 is a bit of overkill, in my opinion, unless you are going for crazy AC. Crazy AC makes swapping items a bit more of a chore, and it may not even be that relevant on a Dex build in the next Mod considering grazing blows.

Once a +3 DEX tome is aquired I would agree to ditch Rogue Dexterity I and II at lvl 20(36 Dexterity), freeing 10 AP.

But we also know that mobs are going to be recieving higher Ac in the future aswell, so any + to-hit is a good idea, since the level 18 feat I also reccomended to her was PA.

[redoubt]

this is very similar to an assassin build I'm leveling now.

The thing I'm starting to reconsider is the Assassin enhancement.
Hide II = 3 ap
silent II = 3 ap
These 6 seem rather wasted at this time.

Then:
sneak accuracy = 1 ap
subtle backstab = 1 ap
damage boost II = 3 ap
These 5 ap are okay. Not bad things, but I'd probably take more damage and trapsmith stuff in their place

Then: sneak attack training. I'd take this anyway.

Moving to assassin II is another 6 ap in prereq's half of which i'd take anyway.

So there are 14 ap in prereq's that I would not take if not for assassin and the 6 to get the assassin I & II enhancements themselves for 20 total.

Is this skill worth 20 ap?

Those 20 would go into skill boost, guile, cunning, search, spot and disable if not doing assassin. I'm thinking the backstab damage would be very, very good, just no assassinate skill.

Thoughts?

[Depravity]

Is this skill worth 20 ap?

Those 20 would go into skill boost, guile, cunning, search, spot and disable if not doing assassin. I'm thinking the backstab damage would be very, very good, just no assassinate skill.

Thoughts?

Assassin III makes any weapon you're holding cause instant death on a natural 20/crit confirm sneak attack. For my money, I feel that's nasty enough to slog through the pre reqs, especially if I can squeeze in the assassin 3 set (chance of level drain on any attack). Assassin IIIs with ash II (more level drain) or weakening offhand weapons and the set should be able to dance through a crowd and leave it severely unhappy.