Ranged Battlecleric Looking for a multiclass friendly strategic guild.

[Udinthrik]

I'm getting tired of all the pugs that play with absolutely no strategy at all because they rely too much on heal bots.

I tell people to consider me as a ranger that can backup heal and they still dont seem to get it.

My build will eventually be 15 cleric 3 pally 2 monk. my starting stats were 8/16/6/10/18/16. It is a defensive repeating crossbow build.

my ingame name is Zeromus. Im currently 3/3/2

[Leyoni]

OK, well good luck with that....

[Udinthrik]

OK, well good luck with that....

and the point of your post is, say it with me! TROLL

This is a good time for me to add i would like a mature guild please.

[Osharan_Tregarth]

and the point of your post is, say it with me! TROLL

This is a good time for me to add i would like a mature guild please.

I'm not sure about the maturity part(not being in their guild), but it seems to me that your character might be a good fit for warrior's soul.

I believe they have a thread going around here somewhere.

[Varr]

Your build is terrible, just like my 8/2 cleric/ranger with many shoot and soon to have improved precise shot. Both builds are purpously gimped for a character feel....a little pizaz. As long as you are aware of that and recognize everyone will look at a mostly cleric as a healer when the only cleric in group, it is all good. Hope your enjoying yours as much as I'm liking mine. We are rightfully obligated to heal first though......either that or solo.

[Udinthrik]

Your build is terrible, just like my 8/2 cleric/ranger with many shoot and soon to have improved precise shot. Both builds are purpously gimped for a character feel....a little pizaz. As long as you are aware of that and recognize everyone will look at a mostly cleric as a healer when the only cleric in group, it is all good. Hope your enjoying yours as much as I'm liking mine. We are rightfully obligated to heal first though......either that or solo.

mines not gimped when you treat it as a ranged dps. if you treat it as a healer, yes its gimped. its **** near impossible to heal with a repeater. im not going to explain the build, but i carefully planned it out. level 15 cleric enhancement is huge for repeating crossbow. you can figure the rest out from there.

[Leyoni]

and the point of your post is,

To say that if you PUG all the time then nobody in their right mind is going to accept you into their group with that build. It may work in a guild or static group -- but not in a PUG.

In a PUG the expectation is that the cleric will heal, at least most of the time. Your attitude towards "strategy" means that you are not interested in what most PUGs are interested in -- rapid completion for loot and XP so that they can move on to the next quest. What you are looking for isn't found in PUGs as a general rule.

I'm sure that your build will be playable to L20. Most builds are. But not in PUGs, not with a repeater, not with a cleric who doesn't think their primary responsibility is to help with healing.

You are not a true battle cleric. You are not a true ranger. You have a gimp build that you expect people to love which isn't going to happen.

"I'm getting tired of all the pugs that play with absolutely no strategy at all because they rely too much on heal bots."

Obviously you are much smarter than the rest of the DDO community because they are tired of clerics who whine "I don't heal." We're clearly in the wrong on this since there are so many other character classes with healing power. Heck, I even read about a Sorcerer whose UMD was so good he was casting Heal.

"I tell people to consider me as a ranger that can backup heal and they still dont seem to get it."

Because your build doesn't make any sense and you are not a ranger. Yeah, I can see how they don't get it.

"My build will eventually be 15 cleric 3 pally 2 monk. my starting stats were 8/16/6/10/18/16. It is a defensive repeating crossbow build."

It looks more to me like a piker build. Possibly great AC, evasion, great saving throws, has to always run around behind everyone else because it can't take a hit. What do groups need with a defense like that? Yeah, 5 players getting the snot beat out of them and you running around kiting with your repeater, self-healing, and generally contributing nothing to the group's success.

"my ingame name is Zeromus. Im currently 3/3/2"

Thanks for the warning. Now people know who to avoid.

Seriously, the build concept stinks -- especially for PUGs. No wonder you wrote, "This is a good time for me to add i would like a mature guild please."

Doddering would be more accurate. Senile, perhaps. That way they'll forget what happens every quest with Zero (they'll probably just think it is the meatloaf giving them indigestion again).

[Udinthrik]

To say that if you PUG all the time then nobody in their right mind is going to accept you into their group with that build. It may work in a guild or static group -- but not in a PUG.

In a PUG the expectation is that the cleric will heal, at least most of the time. Your attitude towards "strategy" means that you are not interested in what most PUGs are interested in -- rapid completion for loot and XP so that they can move on to the next quest. What you are looking for isn't found in PUGs as a general rule.

I'm sure that your build will be playable to L20. Most builds are. But not in PUGs, not with a repeater, not with a cleric who doesn't think their primary responsibility is to help with healing.

You are not a true battle cleric. You are not a true ranger. You have a gimp build that you expect people to love which isn't going to happen.

"I'm getting tired of all the pugs that play with absolutely no strategy at all because they rely too much on heal bots."

Obviously you are much smarter than the rest of the DDO community because they are tired of clerics who whine "I don't heal." We're clearly in the wrong on this since there are so many other character classes with healing power. Heck, I even read about a Sorcerer whose UMD was so good he was casting Heal.

"I tell people to consider me as a ranger that can backup heal and they still dont seem to get it."

Because your build doesn't make any sense and you are not a ranger. Yeah, I can see how they don't get it.

"My build will eventually be 15 cleric 3 pally 2 monk. my starting stats were 8/16/6/10/18/16. It is a defensive repeating crossbow build."

It looks more to me like a piker build. Possibly great AC, evasion, great saving throws, has to always run around behind everyone else because it can't take a hit. What do groups need with a defense like that? Yeah, 5 players getting the snot beat out of them and you running around kiting with your repeater, self-healing, and generally contributing nothing to the group's success.

"my ingame name is Zeromus. Im currently 3/3/2"

Thanks for the warning. Now people know who to avoid.

Seriously, the build concept stinks -- especially for PUGs. No wonder you wrote, "This is a good time for me to add i would like a mature guild please."

Doddering would be more accurate. Senile, perhaps. That way they'll forget what happens every quest with Zero (they'll probably just think it is the meatloaf giving them indigestion again).

it amazes me that you can be so offended by a looking for guild post. This isnt a critique my build post. im not going to explain my build to you because this is not the palce to do it. Your whole point about me not playing right with pugs is the reason im looking for a guild. congrats on missing the entire point of the thread.

It sounds like you have an issue with ranged combat peroid.

You came here to start a flame war, that is all. get a life.

[Soldarm]

..Burp!!

[VKhaun]

Revised title for thread:

Player seeking guild that does not mind a player touting bows as ranged DPS, and his primary class as his secondary role.


K, fresh start from here... go!

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[Leyoni]

Like I said, good luck with that.

[Udinthrik]

I'm not sure about the maturity part(not being in their guild), but it seems to me that your character might be a good fit for warrior's soul.

I believe they have a thread going around here somewhere.

thx they do sound like what im looking for.

[Leyoni]

it amazes me that you can be so offended by a looking for guild post.

Oops, my mistake.

I thought you wrote,

I'm getting tired of all the pugs that play with absolutely no strategy at all because they rely too much on heal bots.

{What is wrong with you idiots thinking a cleric could heal, what happened to doing it my way, I mean strategy, you know shoot them then run like a little girl until you run out of dungeon space and then call for a real cleric to heal you.}

I tell people to consider me as a ranger that can backup heal and they still dont seem to get it.

{Because they are too stupid to see my uberness.}

My build will eventually be 15 cleric 3 pally 2 monk. my starting stats were 8/16/6/10/18/16. It is a defensive repeating crossbow build.

my ingame name is Zeromus. Im currently 3/3/2

{Put that in there so you could all see how smart I am with my no HP and super DEX and WIS, almost 2000 spell points and absolute refusal to heal anyone. Oh, and here's my name so you can avoid me.}

Yep, missed all the reading between the lines looking for a guild stuff. Sorry.

[transtemporal]

Wow, that really combines the best of hated builds into one terrible voltron of hate. I like it. I might use your build to troll Khyber.

[Udinthrik]

I'm getting tired of all the pugs that play with absolutely no strategy at all because they rely too much on heal bots.

I said this simply to give a reason why im looking for a guild, the only strat people in pugs do is run like hell. I actually ran into a group the other day that didnt know you could block doors, they didnt even know there was collision detection in this game. You take a healer out of a pug and the pug fails.

I tell people to consider me as a ranger that can backup heal and they still dont seem to get it.

I wrote this because i warn people before i even join the group that i cannot be the main healer. They usually say thats fine, then blame me when everything goes to hell because they didnt get a real cleric.

My build will eventually be 15 cleric 3 pally 2 monk. my starting stats were 8/16/6/10/18/16. It is a defensive repeating crossbow build.

i put this in there so people can see i can backup heal well. yes i have low con, but monk 2 i got toughness, with the enhancements from pally and drow racial, thats +50 health.



Its not my fault you read everything with negativity. Poor troll.

[Impaqt]

Your build is terrible, just like my 8/2 cleric/ranger with many shoot and soon to have improved precise shot. Both builds are purpously gimped for a character feel....a little pizaz. As long as you are aware of that and recognize everyone will look at a mostly cleric as a healer when the only cleric in group, it is all good. Hope your enjoying yours as much as I'm liking mine. We are rightfully obligated to heal first though......either that or solo.

Arent all of your characters gimped Varr? BTW. Come visit us on Thelanis ya Slacker! I miss having your Gimpness along with us

mines not gimped when you treat it as a ranged dps. if you treat it as a healer, yes its gimped. its **** near impossible to heal with a repeater. im not going to explain the build, but i carefully planned it out. level 15 cleric enhancement is huge for repeating crossbow. you can figure the rest out from there.

Whats Ranged DPS?

[Leyoni]

Yeah, I read what you wrote the first time -- especially the part about getting into groups and then getting the blame for not healing.

I really can't understand that bad rap being tossed out on a cleric. Sorry man.

And, I guess you thought that posting really negatively about things was the same as saying "I'm looking for a guild." I mean, this is the guild part of the forums.

So,

Has bad attitude, doesn't heal, has gimp build, believes in ranged DPS, doesn't react well to criticism, can't figure out simple line like "good luck with that" so needs to have it all explained to him....

Names his toon Zero....

Looking for a guild....

I'm sure someone, somewhere is looking for you too.

[Hadrian]

"Pay no attention to Wimp Lo, we purposely trained him wrong... as a joke". - Master Tang, Kung Pow: Enter the Fist

[Udinthrik]

Yeah, I read what you wrote the first time -- especially the part about getting into groups and then getting the blame for not healing.

I really can't understand that bad rap being tossed out on a cleric. Sorry man.

And, I guess you thought that posting really negatively about things was the same as saying "I'm looking for a guild." I mean, this is the guild part of the forums.

So,

Has bad attitude, doesn't heal, has gimp build, believes in ranged DPS, doesn't react well to criticism, can't figure out simple line like "good luck with that" so needs to have it all explained to him....

Names his toon Zero....

Looking for a guild....

I'm sure someone, somewhere is looking for you too.

did you really just accuse me of having a bad attitude? your smiley faces don't make up for your sarcastic trolling bud.

You are the reason this games community has a bad reputation. Found a guild, despite your bashing. One useful on topic reply out of all these.

[Kerrn_Siff]

I just can't stop peeking back into this thread. It's kept a smirk on my face all day