True Paladin

[sigtrent]

For Mr Ed I offer some old builds playing around with the paladin class.

A healer paladin
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...04#post1675604

One much like his (which I agree would be better off with intimidate!)
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...58#post1714658

Another not so great but fairly middle of the road kind of paladin
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=142853&page=2

And for verity here is a THF paladin
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...13#post1703213

Anyway, just saying not all paladins need to be great to be interesting. Still, if I find the time I'd like to go back and update some of these to work in what I've learned to make them a bit better while keeping their originality.

[Valezra]

For Mr Ed I offer some old builds playing around with the paladin class.

A healer paladin
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...04#post1675604

One much like his (which I agree would be better off with intimidate!)
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...58#post1714658

Another not so great but fairly middle of the road kind of paladin
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=142853&page=2

And for verity here is a TWF paladin
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...13#post1703213

Anyway, just saying not all paladins need to be great to be interesting. Still, if I find the time I'd like to go back and update some of these to work in what I've learned to make them a bit better while keeping their originality.

I think the Doorstop Paladin is a better build for the OP.

Val

[Dexxaan]

I think the Doorstop Paladin is a better build for the OP.

Val

/Agreed.


LMAO.... Doorstop Paladin.... I have got to write that one down in my Bio.

[sigtrent]

I think the Doorstop Paladin is a better build for the OP.
Val

It is a masterwork I agree. Right up there with the heavy metal dungeon god build.

[Charlemagne2]

Yeah 'cuz that would be a deal-breaker.

I never noticed, I will ask around though.

If I did notice, I would be like "ooo That guy wait till I ...that son of @#$! shield-user..."

yeah I am gonna have to look for that. That would make me mad.

I think the term ignorance of ones own ignorance applys here.

[ForwardWu]

I think first you have to accept that pally in DDO is not implemented as powerful as other melee type, both defensively, dps wise, or skill wise.

And if you have chosen to stay pure and S&B, or choose whatever feats/skills combo you like, please also understand that you will have a hard time to finish quests, let alone raid.

I will respect you if, with a non-optimal, fun-based build, can lead a quest or raid instead as a 6th or 12th person in the dungeon. Because with a sub-par toon, your player skills can contribute much more than the toon.


Please understand that DDO penalize fun build and reward solid build....it is the game we are playing...e.g. will you accept a 8cleric/8 soccy into a shroud pug if he is a stranger?

your 8/8 fighter/wiz is a fun build...yet..i know how it performs in higher lv quests like vale....

[Mr_Ed7]

I am not upset.

I understand that your stacking of numbers is more effective than my aestetic build.

However, my experienced in the game has been that in the long run, it really matters little.

Right now, RIGHT NOW (ooo caps I must be furious) my guy rocks...period.
No I am not the best healer, I am the second best.

No, I am not TWP (two-weapon psycho build), but I do my share.

I do play with understanding people who have fun, so as they say, the ones who love you accept you for who you are.

I will let you all know how I bad I do when I do get to higher levels. If I beleive he is a gimp, an noone want to play with him, then so be it. I have found such prejudice before.

The game is fun, keep it that way.
Exactly at what time do I say "thanks but no thanks" in regards to help.

Is the OP ignorant? I don't think so.

I know that I do not resort to name-calling or insults or continual use of witty sarcasm when I do not agree.

Since the begining of the game I have heard from the bleachers:

1) Don't play a warforged
2) Diplo the chests
3) YOU MUST HAVE DVs? No DVs noone will want you for end-game/
4) Don't use a bow they are nerfed.
5) Don't waste points on that skill.
6)Don't go full-time shield use.
7)and now Don't be a full-time shield using healing Paladin because the Portals in the Shroud don't like it.

Hey guys I understand what your saying, I just ain't doing respect my opinion please.
Doorstop Paladin...thats rich.

[Dexxaan]

.......hmmmm..........

I believe someone rolled VS Paladin Pride........and failed.



Suggest less CON and more CHA on the Doorstop Paladin.

[Valezra]

Since the begining of the game I have heard from the bleachers:

1) Don't play a warforged

Hogwash

2) Diplo the chests

Hogwash

3) YOU MUST HAVE DVs? No DVs noone will want you for end-game/

Hogwash

4) Don't use a bow they are nerfed.

True

5) Don't waste points on that skill.

Depends but yes some skills are a complete waste.

6)Don't go full-time shield use.

Hogwash if you're a real tank and not a nerf bat salesman.

7)and now Don't be a full-time shield using healing Paladin because the Portals in the Shroud don't like it.

True. And a summoned Scorpion will do more damage.

In case you were still unclear on any of those things I went ahead and answered them.

Val

[Mr_Ed7]

In case you were still unclear on any of those things I went ahead and answered them.

Val

Exactly many things have come to be "hogwash" which is why I take any "must have" criticism with a grain of salt (is that a material component?)

[Kadran]

Why don't we let this thread do what this character will excell at: die. :-D

[Dexxaan]

Why don't we let this thread do what this character will excell at: die. :-D

Thats absolutely no fun. I`m back at work, need a few laughs to cheer me up and there you go trying to kill my entertainment...... First Valezra with the EZ button....now you.

I`m only hoping we get some more humour in here...because like the True paladin our OP is (or claims to be) he at least is perseverant on following his beliefs....no matter how wrong.

I think the term ignorance of ones own ignorance applys here.

See? Thats the kind of material I`m talking about.

[Aranticus]

That will most likely not happen, as a previous poster said it will go unnoticed if at all.
What are they gonna say?
I do not believe my 2 s&b builds are on some blacklist somewhere for using shields!

i blacklisted a barbarian for using SnB in shroud

If someone said "In the future your raid party will wipe because you chose to carry a shield and heal people." maybe then I would switch tactics. 'Cause I would hate for my gimpness to bring down an entire quest for 11 others.

there is a time to use a shield and there is a time to whip out an ugly TH weapon to do a little more damage than you can SnB. it isnt just about contributing to a party but rather contributing to the best of your abilities

Perhaps Mhykke would like to see some sort-of "output meter" for quests to make sure everyone is doing their part.

Look busy Mhykke is coming.

you dun need a meter to check who is the freeloader. word gets around, people can easily observe how good your char really is. many people in this thread are experienced builders, they can tell

The times I have been in the shroud, my first completion was done while playing my towershield wearing Dwarf. Why after using it for 16 levels would I switch it?
I will hit the portal with two-weapons when I go in there with my 2 weapon guy...

I mean I am LOL here, so they don't like the Dwarf, I can always switch characters..can't I lol!

We completed it btw.

but they still tell stories of the Dwarf with the shield...BHWAA hahaha!!!1

they are probably talking about that "idiotic" dwarf who uses a shield because he is afraid the portal will beat him up

[KoboldKiller]

I say build it however you want to build it, as long as it's fun for you. I am a s&b Pali through and through. That is my preference, it's fits my personal image for a Pali, it's fits my own roll play for my pali. And if someone wants me to pick up a two handed weapon they can bite me. As far as healing spec goes that's going to be a stretch but hey more power to you.

[Mr_Ed7]

Thanks for your support KK but remember...

You are in the Forum Zone, your opinion and personal preferences are wrong here!

[Kadran]

Thanks for your support KK but remember...

You are in the Forum Zone, your opinion and personal preferences are wrong here!

No one is saying your personal preferences are wrong. In fact, they are encouraging you to play whatever you want. What they ARE doing is advising you against this build, in case you thought it would be able to do things that it will not be able to do well.

As you can see by the slowing of responses: people have all but stopped trying to get threw to you. Probably because you are not receptive of their information. People are giving you good tips, and instead of trying to apply them to your character to make it better, you blatently ignore them and make comments like, "There's 5-11 other people to carry me threw the dungeon."

Most people who post a build on the forums do so for advice. To see if there is something they over looked. Or just to see how people will respond to a build that is outside the box. This post, as far as I can tell, was created to show us a build that is sub-optimal and to stick your fingers in your ears and scream "LA LA LA!" While we try to point out the flaws.

A lot of the people here have made a character like this before. We are trying to save you the headache of getting to level 12-16 and realizing that your character sucks. My advice with this build, since you refuse to let us help you modify it, is to use circumstantial weaponry. I.E. Destruction, Maladroit of Bone Breaking, Weakening of Enfeebling, etc.

[toughguyjoe]

So where is the thread about the character in Eddie Boys Sig?

[rezo]

How about a true Paladin that fights and heals...while shield-blocking the door.

A Paladin should be a defensive fighter who can enable the team by playing junior cleric.

So far my Pally is set-up for cure moderate wounds, raise dead, 3 Lay of Hands, cure disease, lesser restoration and more.

Why build intima-paladins and tempest-paladins?

There are enough 2 weapon psychos on the server to the killing...

/signed

[Valezra]

So where is the thread about the character in Eddie Boys Sig?

The community can only deal with one crisis at a time.

[Kadran]

My long, really well thought post got ignored on both threads. =/ Did my message sink in? I highly doubt it, but I sincerely hope it did.