Help with Ranger Build

[Rkard]

Hello, I have been gone from DDO for roughly 2 1/2 years and just decided to come back and start playing again. When I was playing I loved my ranger/drow build based on dex and stat weapons. I want to start playing a ranger but I am a bit confused with all the new things rangers can get. From what I can gather reading the forums, the old dex rangers are not viable anymore. I keep hearing about the tempest ranger builds and was wondering if they will be viable for Mod 9.


I am thinking of going str based now since that seems to be the best for Rangers now and was looking for a tempest ranger build but I can't seem to find an updated version. If someone can help a returning player and point me in the right direction, I would be appreciated. What I am looking for is information is basically a up to date tempest build that I can study and tweak it for my play style, which is a pure ranger with good damage and self sufficient since I plan to play in a perma death guild.


Thanks in advance for any help.

[Noctus]

So difficult to find?

Or afraid of reading the wall of text?

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=172864

[Yargore]

The build Noctus linked is not a very good build. I would not recommend it.

I can help you get a better build, but first I need to know if you have unlocked 32 pt builds (Dunno if that existed back when you played thou)?

[Rkard]

So difficult to find?

Or afraid of reading the wall of text?

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=172864

I have read that post and it is well written just wanted to know what was considered a good build now. I wanted help and information since I was gone for so long. I don't need smart ass comments.

[Rkard]

The build Noctus linked is not a very good build. I would not recommend it.

I can help you get a better build, but first I need to know if you have unlocked 32 pt builds (Dunno if that existed back when you played thou)?

No I have not unlocked 32 point builds yet, just the drow. I don't even know how much favor I have. I appreciate the help by the way, seems the forums are not the same as when I was playing.

[kingfisher]

Go back to your cave of bias and ignorance.

rather be there than living your hollow exsistance of similitude and repitition

[Yargore]

No I have not unlocked 32 point builds yet, just the drow. I don't even know how much favor I have. I appreciate the help by the way, seems the forums are not the same as when I was playing.

Okay. 28 pt will work fine.
As mod 9 is just around the corner (lol I've been saying that since january) I'll make the build for level 20.

Class: Ranger 18 / monk 1 / rogue 1
Race: Human
Allignment: Lawful Neutral.

Starting Stats:
Str 16
Dex 15
Con 12
Int 8
Wis 14
Cha 8

Ending Stats:
Str 32 (16 base + 5 level + 6 item + 2 tome + 2 rams +1 enhancement)
Dex 26 (15 base + 2 tome + 6 item + 3 ranger enhancement)
Con 20 (12 base + 2 tome + 6 item)
Int 8 8 base
Wis 26 (14 base +1 tome + 6 item +2 shroud weapon +1 enhancement)
Cha 8 8 base

It might seem unreasonable to get all those tomes, but believe me, unless you're playing very casually you will get those +2 tomes, and even +3 tomes, soon enough.
They don't make or break the character either.

Final AC Breakdown with tomes and fancy gear:
10 Base
8 dex
8 wisdom
8 armor
4 icy raiment
5 deflection
1 Dodge
3 Chattering Ring
4 insight
1 Ritual
1 monk
4 tempest shield bonus
3 Favored
(2 defensive fighting)
----------------
60 (62) - unbuffed
----------------
5 barkskin
1 haste
2 recitation
----------------
68 (70) - self buffed
----------------
6 aura
4 bard song
----------------
78 (80) with party buffs

This basicly mean that when you reach your full potential you will run around with 66-67 AC (it will be 67 if you find a +3 wisdom tome) in DPS mode.
Considering that I got attacked for saying that a ranger with 50 AC in full defensive mode is bad, you might realise that 66-67 AC is pretty high.

And you can also boost for 4 more AC.



Enhancements

Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Human Adaptability I: Strength
Enhancement: Human Adaptability II: Wisdom
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II
Enhancement: Human Versatility III
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage IV
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense III
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Resistance II
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion IV
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity III
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II

Feats:
1.Dodge
1 (human).Mobility
2 (Monk). Power attack
3.Khopesh
6.Spring attack
9.Oversized two weapon fighting
12.Improved critical slashing
15.Maximize Spell (for your CSW, very efficient for selfhealing)
18.Toughness

Favored Enemies: (number = the level you get it)
3. Giant
7. Undead
12. Evil outsiders

And swap giant for constructs when you start running The Shroud.

Skill Points:

At level 1 put 4 points in Balance, UMD, Jump, Concentration, open lock, spot, and the last 8 in whatever you want.
At level 2 you put 1 point in balance, 1 in concentration and 2 in UMD.
At level 3 you put 1 point in balance, 3 in concentration and 2 in UMD
At level 4 you put 3 point in balance, 1 in concentration and 2 in UMD
At level 5 and forth you put 2 points in balance, 1 point in concentration, 2 points in UMD and 1 point in jump.

Leveling order:
Take rogue at level 1, monk at level 2 and rest ranger.

This is about as good a 28 pt ranger can get. Better than 99% of the 32 pt rangers too.

[Yargore]

rather be there than living your hollow exsistance of similitude and repitition

Why do you have such strong need of feeling special?
Did your mom pay not pay attention too you, and you try to compensate for that in a MMO?

[Hadrian]

What I am looking for is information is basically a up to date tempest build that I can study and tweak it for my play style, which is a pure ranger with good damage and self sufficient since I plan to play in a perma death guild.

Yargore, you're assuming a lot of high end items and he's tallking about perma death.

I think a simpler build with less assumptions about equipment would be of more use since he's unlikely to even get to a high enough level to worry about collecting some of that.

[Yargore]

Yargore, you're assuming a lot of high end items and he's tallking about perma death.

I think a simpler build with less assumptions about equipment would be of more use since he's unlikely to even get to a high enough level to worry about collecting some of that.

Oh, missed that last part.
Will adapt the build when I have time.


(Also noticed that he wanted a pure ranger)

[kingfisher]

Why do you have such strong need of feeling special?
Did your mom pay not pay attention too you, and you try to compensate for that in a MMO?

more originality from ddo euro.

[Yargore]

more originality from ddo euro.

Thanks for proving my points.

[April_Kinslayer]

Yargore, I am in a similar situation as the OP, but without the constraints of perma-death or staying pure ranger. I do have 32 point builds unlocked. Taking the advice you provided the OP, where would you place those extra 4 points?

[Yargore]

Yargore, I am in a similar situation as the OP, but without the constraints of perma-death or staying pure ranger. I do have 32 point builds unlocked. Taking the advice you provided the OP, where would you place those extra 4 points?

Put 2 points in dex and 2 point in wis.
Change the Human Adaptability: wisdom to dextrerity.

[April_Kinslayer]

Put 2 points in dex and 2 point in wis.
Change the Human Adaptability: wisdom to dextrerity.

Sounds good. I'll definitely start playing around with that build, although to be honest, I may swap Khopesh for Dwarven Axes. For some reason I've collected them and have a nice assortment, while khopeshes on the other hand are extremely rare and expensive. Thank you for the advice!

[Yargore]

Sounds good. I'll definitely start playing around with that build, although to be honest, I may swap Khopesh for Dwarven Axes. For some reason I've collected them and have a nice assortment, while khopeshes on the other hand are extremely rare and expensive. Thank you for the advice!

Yea, use can use DAs at first and when you get to shroud you can craft khopeshes and just swap the feat out.

You're welcome.

[Rkard]

I was thinking of going with the following build. I would appreciate any comments or ideas. I am not going into to many details like items and equipment as I don't have any at the moment. It's a 28 point build.



Class:Ranger
Race:Human
Alignment:Chaotic Good


Starting Stat:
Str 16
Dex 16
Con 12
Int 8
Wis 12
Cha 8


Feats:
1.Dodge
1.Kopesh
3.Mobility
6.Spring Attack
9.Power Attack
12.Oversized two handed Fighting
15.Improved Critical Slashing
18.Toughne
Considering dropping either IC/S or Toughness for Maximize for better heals and survivability.

Enhancements:
Not sure at this time not familiar with the new system. I know I will be going with the Tempest ones for sure.


Favored Enemies:
Undead
Giants
Evil Outsiders
The others not sure now since the new content.


Skills:
Hide
Sneak
Balance
Tumble
UMD
Spot

[April_Kinslayer]

Oooooh, I hadn't even thought of that. *Hands Yargore a 6-pack*

[Yargore]

I was thinking of going with the following build. I would appreciate any comments or ideas. I am not going into to many details like items and equipment as I don't have any at the moment. It's a 28 point build.



Class:Ranger
Race:Human
Alignment:Chaotic Good


Starting Stat:
Str 16
Dex 16
Con 12
Int 8
Wis 12
Cha 8


Feats:
1.Dodge
1.Kopesh
3.Mobility
6.Spring Attack
9.Power Attack
12.Oversized two handed Fighting
15.Improved Critical Slashing
18.Toughness


Enhancements:
Not sure at this time not familiar with the new system. I know I will be going with the Tempest ones for sure.


Favored Enemies:
Undead
Giants
Evil Outsiders
The others not sure now since the new content.


Skills:
Hide
Sneak
Balance
Tumble
UMD
Spot

Lower dex to 14 or 15 and up con, also take toughness at level 1, khopesh at level 12 and oversized at level 18. You will want to have all the HPS you can get if you're playing perma death.
Going warforged is also a good idea, it will make you immune to hold, which can be a real killer at low levels.

[Yargore]

Oooooh, I hadn't even thought of that. *Hands Yargore a 6-pack*

Cheers mate