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    I have been playing with ranger healing for a while now and finally a few months ago thought i would jump in and respec for healing.
    Due to my ranger not really having high ac especially compared to monk ranger i decided to play to my strengths. Therefore thought i would go conc opp items, max spell feat & 10%,20%,30% healing amp, also taking enhancements in ranger devotion. Have also crafted shroud items for sps and sup devotion.
    MIght take quicken @ next lvl up.
    With 4 conc items equip (no torc dont want to waste the neckie slot) and the healing specs as mentioned reckon i have a viable option for a 2wf dps ranger that doesnt need monk lvls.
    Some figures csw - crits for 400-450 norm 180-220
    cmw - crits for 200-240 norm 90-120

    i have also tried to max sps so have 621 and if i get the wabbot gloves i will loot them sorry casters . Looking to use ss clickies to help with dr have 8 @ the mo might craft one more for luck .

    If i do take quicken @ lvl up might try a solo vod whip out the hound shield for a sps and hps top up when needed and reckon it could be done with relatively few pots.

    So would like to hear your thoughts on the build and any input would be great.

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    I speced to healing a while ago, although I didnt take the SP enhancements, I took the Ranger Devition 1-4.

    I also have a shroud SP item and CO, but the CO seems to be kind of a waste (needed the ES for the +6 Wis so why not...lol) because it doesnt proc often, but still...its prolly good for about 50-100 sp per quest

    Personally, I love the self healing...with a Superior Devotion IV shield I usually hit ~60 with a CSW. If you have a spare feat I would suggest Maximize for 2x healing. I used to have it but swapped it out because it was basically 2x SP for 2x heal...I could just cast CSW twice and save a feat. Might be more worth it to pick up Empower Heal and maybe the Hound necklace if you have the slot free.

    As far as soloing VoD with a ranger...I dont see it happening. I dont know how you could spam heal fast enough to get through the bats, and without any CC the whole thing would be a nightmare...especially if you have a low (sub 65) AC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cm2_supernova View Post
    I speced to healing a while ago, although I didnt take the SP enhancements, I took the Ranger Devition 1-4.

    I also have a shroud SP item and CO, but the CO seems to be kind of a waste (needed the ES for the +6 Wis so why not...lol) because it doesnt proc often, but still...its prolly good for about 50-100 sp per quest

    Personally, I love the self healing...with a Superior Devotion IV shield I usually hit ~60 with a CSW. If you have a spare feat I would suggest Maximize for 2x healing. I used to have it but swapped it out because it was basically 2x SP for 2x heal...I could just cast CSW twice and save a feat. Might be more worth it to pick up Empower Heal and maybe the Hound necklace if you have the slot free.

    As far as soloing VoD with a ranger...I dont see it happening. I dont know how you could spam heal fast enough to get through the bats, and without any CC the whole thing would be a nightmare...especially if you have a low (sub 65) AC.

    I have maximise already aye u could cast x2 but prefer the one heal option. As for vod i said would need quicken to make it possible, and turtle up with hound shield when needed. The bats wouldnt be a problem i have greaves, cloak of ice, crafted shroud fire absorp weap and exceptional crafted fire prot item. The main problem would be the 2nd wave of elite orthons whilst be shackled only real option here would be to equip a couple of high damage guard items such as lighting strike and turtle up and sit it out (although would be expensive in pots).

    As for shield for sup dev i assume u are a 2wf toon hence u would have to change held to cast, i am not a fan of this so i use a sup dev 4 ring which is always equipped. The conc opp is a waste if u only have the one but with 4 equipped it works a treat as the activation is 4% which when u taking a pounding activates alot

    Ty for your feedback

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    Hello mate.

    Comming to the US forums to look for insight I see.

    As I said on the EU forums, it's great way to go for GDB.


    Remember that you won't get any SPs if you shieldblock.
    And torc is a must-have really, equip it if you need to regen sp quickly.

    With firestorm greaves, cold shield clickie and possibly shroud fire res items the bats in VoD should not be a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gdb View Post
    The bats wouldnt be a problem i have greaves, cloak of ice, crafted shroud fire absorp weap and exceptional crafted fire prot item.
    Fair enough...that should do nicely against the bats

    The main problem would be the 2nd wave of elite orthons whilst be shackled only real option here would be to equip a couple of high damage guard items such as lighting strike and turtle up and sit it out (although would be expensive in pots).
    I wonder if that would be a viable strategy...those orthons can hit hard and the proc rate on a lightning strike gaurd is about the same as a CO IIRC...if you give it a shot let me know how it pans out

    As for shield for sup dev i assume u are a 2wf toon hence u would have to change held to cast, i am not a fan of this so i use a sup dev 4 ring which is always equipped.
    I am a 2wf type ranger...I typically only heal up after a fight if I need to and can equip the shield. Unfortunatley for my build I dont have a free item slot to leave a devotion ring on all the time or else you can bet I sure would.

    The conc opp is a waste if u only have the one but with 4 equipped it works a treat as the activation is 4% which when u taking a pounding activates alot
    Again...for me the item slots would be an issue. Two I can see (hp\sp) but that is a TON of shroud grindin to have 4 CO items on one toon. At least 60 runs just to get the cleansing items.

    Ty for your feedback
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    Well seeing as there is no one left in EU i have been forced to peddle my wears on the other side of the pond .Yargore thought i had left you in keeper nice to see you active any chance you might join us on keeper the place aint the same without you and your side kick

    Aye having 4 conc opp items is expensive actually over 100 shrouds as i have taken +3 tomes in the past. Torc is great and aye you do need to take damage to activate conc opp sps but i havent space on neckie slot for torc. The thing i like about conc opp is that they are a tier3 bonus effect for a dual shard so on 1 conc item for example i get +5 reflex save +1 excep will save +2 excep will , and before anyone asks i have +5 saves on each shroud item to save having to equip a +5 res item.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gdb View Post
    • 10%,20%,30% healing amp
    • Have crafted shroud items for sps and sup devotion.
    • 4 conc items equip
    • have 8 ss clickies
    • i have greaves, cloak of ice, crafted shroud fire absorp weap and exceptional crafted fire prot item.
    Wow, that's some dedication (and serious shroud grinding)

    That is some very good self-healing and it makes a huge difference... My ranger is a halfling with the healing dragonmarks, and I too have the devotion enhancements, maximize, superior devotion item, etc.

    I (and you I'd imagine) can solo most anything, and I have done numerous end-game quests (not raids) as the lone healer (no cleric or bard).

    You should know how important Quicken is. Do you get interrupted often? One nice thing about the dragonmarks is that they don't get interrupted... I'm even considering getting Empowered Healing at 18... That might be an interesting choice for you too.
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    I swapped out stunning blow on my ranger last week for empowered healing. With the ranger enhancements, hound bracers, and 10% healing amp from sorjek armor, it's a nice chunk of hp per pop on a cure serious. 90-115, thereabouts? I think?

    I don't have the ingredients to go for a conc opposition items, so I won't be able to play with those type items. I am going to start grinding out the dq raid so I can try and get the torc out of there tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gdb View Post
    The bats wouldnt be a problem i have greaves, cloak of ice, crafted shroud fire absorp weap and exceptional crafted fire prot item.
    You're quite correct here. I've attempted a solo VOD on a high AC ranger, and with the firestorm greaves, an occasional fireshield cold scroll and the bramble casters, the bats weren't much of an issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gdb View Post

    The main problem would be the 2nd wave of elite orthons whilst be shackled
    I found the 1st wave of elite orthons to be fairly straight-forward, and while I didn't get to the second wave I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't be too much worse when the chains start up. I handled the first wave without CE on and was able to fight them and heal myself effectively without moving arround. The lower attack speed from the chains and the increased missing due to the attack penalties of CE would slow things down a lot, but with CE covering the loss of AC and without any real need to move around, I think that handling the second wave while shackled would just be a matter of time.

    I found the first wave of devils to be a lot more difficult, since their to-hit is higher than the orthons (requiring the use of CE) and you have to fight them at the same time as Suulomades. I found myself needing to run or tumble around in order to heal or re-buff, since casting spells turned CE off and made me get hit much, much more. But by using these tactics I was eventually able to sucessfully get past this phase.

    So the real problem I faced was dealing with Suulomades and the devils of the second wave when I was shackled. Due to the decreased AC and attack speed I couldn't kill the devils off without getting hit a lot, and I didn't have the mobility to move around and heal myself. Up till now, I haven't been able to find any way of getting past this phase when soloing.


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    only real option here would be to equip a couple of high damage guard items such as lighting strike and turtle up and sit it out (although would be expensive in pots).
    This is an interesting idea for dealing with the second wave of devils, although I'm not sure I want to go to all the trouble of obtaining the hound shield to try it out. Even with the shield, you would still take a good deal of damage from Suulomades, since he usually hits for around 60, but I suppose that with some way of replenishing lots and lots of SP and some way of healing without being interrupted you could get through it. I think that it would take an eternity to kill off all the devils using damage guards, however, since they have such ridiculously high HP. Slay living guard might be the way to go here. You would still have to DPS Suulomades down while shackled, of course, but that I think would be feasible once all the devils are gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meriadeuc View Post
    You're quite correct here. I've attempted a solo VOD on a high AC ranger, and with the firestorm greaves, an occasional fireshield cold scroll and the bramble casters, the bats weren't much of an issue.



    I found the 1st wave of elite orthons to be fairly straight-forward, and while I didn't get to the second wave I'm pretty sure that it wouldn't be too much worse when the chains start up. I handled the first wave without CE on and was able to fight them and heal myself effectively without moving arround. The lower attack speed from the chains and the increased missing due to the attack penalties of CE would slow things down a lot, but with CE covering the loss of AC and without any real need to move around, I think that handling the second wave while shackled would just be a matter of time.

    I found the first wave of devils to be a lot more difficult, since their to-hit is higher than the orthons (requiring the use of CE) and you have to fight them at the same time as Suulomades. I found myself needing to run or tumble around in order to heal or re-buff, since casting spells turned CE off and made me get hit much, much more. But by using these tactics I was eventually able to sucessfully get past this phase.

    So the real problem I faced was dealing with Suulomades and the devils of the second wave when I was shackled. Due to the decreased AC and attack speed I couldn't kill the devils off without getting hit a lot, and I didn't have the mobility to move around and heal myself. Up till now, I haven't been able to find any way of getting past this phase when soloing.




    This is an interesting idea for dealing with the second wave of devils, although I'm not sure I want to go to all the trouble of obtaining the hound shield to try it out. Even with the shield, you would still take a good deal of damage from Suulomades, since he usually hits for around 60, but I suppose that with some way of replenishing lots and lots of SP and some way of healing without being interrupted you could get through it. I think that it would take an eternity to kill off all the devils using damage guards, however, since they have such ridiculously high HP. Slay living guard might be the way to go here. You would still have to DPS Suulomades down while shackled, of course, but that I think would be feasible once all the devils are gone.

    Ty for your feedback i am thinking i wont try until i get quicken as with low ac i need to heal on the hop , indeed slay living guard might be a nice way forward, only reason i was thinking lighting strike was it would also take some hps of sally aswell (although with such a low activation would take a couple of years).

    The good thing about full healng spec and items is that one heal is going to heal @ the least 50% of my hps and crits is full health back so i can afford to stay combat and dps till i get low, but then would need quicken to ensure that i do get a heal.

    The other possiblity i have been thinking for last phase would be to turtle up whilst many shot cools and then use many shot for sally, this might also help you on the dev wave maybe use a wop bow and hope you get a few devs in a line is a great way of clearing a room of trash mobs.

    Anyway good luck with the efforts in soloing vod and i hope i will post a screenie when we get mod9 in EU which could be sometime in 2020

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