I am working on my first real planned build. So my goal for this build is to create a dwarf that has high ac/hp, dual wields dwarven axes and does a good amount of damage, but my main goal is to have a high ac while still dual weilding. I haven't planned out a real build before so this is my real first build and I only really have a base so if you guys could assist me it would be awesome.
The biggest problem I am having with this build is how much to go into each class. Like how many levels I should go into ranger or how many into fighter. I was also thinking about splashing some paladin. and does it matter the order I take each class? I was thinking of going with ranger first for the more skill points, but I don't know the order I should go after that.
So I would like to know what class combination you guys recomend, the order I level them, and should I splash some paly so I can start building him
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After some research I came up with these 2 combo's
6 Ranger/3 Paladin/7 fighter:
6 ranger for Improved Two Weapon Fighting
3 paly for this:
3 Aura of Courage A feeling of confidence and fearlessness surrounds you while near a paladin, granting a bonus to saves against fear.
3 Divine Health A paladin is immune to all diseases.
3 Fear Immunity A paladin is immune to fear effects.
the rest fighter
Im not sure if the 3rd pally is worth it or not... or should I have less ranger.
The second one is:
9 Ranger/3 or 2 Paly/ 4 fighter
paly same as above
9 ranger for evasion
and I don't know if going all the way to 9 for evasion is worth it or not and if I should just stay at 6 or lower and focus more on fighter
also Im not sure the order I should level each class
Thanks
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06-29-2009, 12:41 AM #1Community Member
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Build Help: Dwarf Ranger/Fighter maybe paladin
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06-29-2009, 03:16 AM #2Community Member
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Well which is it? Do you want to be a ranger/fighter/paladin, or do you want to have a high AC while dual wielding for good damage? You really can't have both.
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06-29-2009, 03:21 AM #3Community Member
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have a high AC while dual wielding for good damage sounds good
Do you mean I cant have it with that exact combo, or I cant have it with ranger/fighter combo ether, My goal is really to dual wield dwarven axes and be good at it. here is what I have so far:
Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.00 DDO Character Planner Home Page Level 16 Lawful Good Dwarf Male (10 Fighter \ 6 Ranger) Hit Points: 352 Spell Points: 25 BAB: 16\16\21\26\26 Fortitude: 18 Reflex: 10 Will: 5 Starting Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats (32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 16) Strength 18 28 Dexterity 13 15 Constitution 17 22 Intelligence 8 8 Wisdom 9 10 Charisma 8 8 Tomes Used +3 Tome of Strength used at level 16 +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 16 +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 16 +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 16 Starting Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 16) Balance 1 6 Bluff -1 -1 Concentration 3 6 Diplomacy -1 -1 Disable Device n/a n/a Haggle -1 -1 Heal 3 8 Hide 1 2 Intimidate 1 8 Jump 8 17 Listen -1 0 Move Silently 1 2 Open Lock n/a n/a Perform n/a n/a Repair -1 -1 Search -1 1 Spot -1 0 Swim 4 9 Tumble 3 4.5 Use Magic Device 1 10 Level 1 (Ranger) Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant Feat: (Selected) Toughness Level 2 (Ranger) Level 3 (Fighter) Feat: (Selected) Dodge Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack Level 4 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting Level 5 (Fighter) Level 6 (Fighter) Feat: (Selected) Cleave Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Stunning Blow Level 7 (Ranger) Level 8 (Ranger) Level 9 (Ranger) Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Goblinoid Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons Level 10 (Ranger) Level 11 (Fighter) Level 12 (Fighter) Feat: (Selected) Power Critical Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons Level 13 (Fighter) Level 14 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons Level 15 (Fighter) Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave Level 16 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack II Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage II Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II Enhancement: Dwarven Tactics I Enhancement: Dwarven Tactics II Enhancement: Dwarven Tactics III Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) I Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) II Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Stunning Blow) III Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Enhancement: Racial Toughness III Enhancement: Racial Toughness IV Enhancement: Fighter Strength I Enhancement: Fighter Strength II Enhancement: Fighter Strength III Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III
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06-29-2009, 03:40 AM #4Community Member
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Wow.... that's two builds I've checked in a row that took power critical... give me a minute to collect my thoughts as that just blew my mind. While I'm collecting my thoughts, drop that horrid feat, please.
Ok now - there's two types of armor characters in DDO... those that wear shields and those that are monk splashes. This build is neither, so your AC will never be worth mentioning.
On a two weapon fighter cleave will slow your DPS down. I'd advise against taking it.
Stunning blow isn't going to work nearly as well as you probably believe. I have it on my two weapon fighter barbarian/fighter. My strength gets up to 44 (27 DC), and it works all of about 25% of the time. With your current layout you're looking at about a 26 DC unless you use weighted weapons (which will decrease your DPS considerably).
In the words of Bobby Bouchet's mom... odd stats are THE DEVIL! Either go 8 wisdom or 10 wisdom. Personally, I'd change that to 16 con, 14 dex, 10 wisdom, but the odd con (still an even buy) is acceptable (though not recomended).
Great cleave is on about the same level as power critical.... face palm worthy. Drop it at the next stop.
For the character you have built your enhancements aren't horrible, but that's way too many points to spend on one feat when that wasn't even one of your build foundations. Drop the tactics enhancements and pick up things that help with the build you said you wanted (favored enemy damage, fighter dwarven axe specialization, etc).
Or, you could just use this build I designed (with intellectual rights belonging to EinarMal) for my wife. It does exactly what you said you wanted minus the fighter and paladin levels. In fact, it even does quite a bit more.
If you can't get a +2 int tome you can either forego the open lock skill or you can start with a 14 con (or start with 13 int and 15 con and use two +1 tomes; though again I hate odd stats). If you have any possible way to get the int tome, though, I'd really suggest it. This is definitely a character you can enjoy playing for a long time, so it's well worth the expenditure.Code:Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 3.00 DDO Character Planner Home Page Level 16 Lawful Good Dwarf Male (1 Monk \ 1 Rogue \ 14 Ranger) Hit Points: 284 Spell Points: 234 BAB: 14\14\19\24 Fortitude: 16 Reflex: 17 Will: 9 Starting Feat/Enhancement Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats (32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 16) Strength 16 22 Dexterity 14 18 Constitution 16 20 Intelligence 12 14 Wisdom 14 16 Charisma 6 8 Tomes Used +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1 +2 Tome of Strength used at level 16 +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 16 +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 16 +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 16 +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 16 Starting Feat/Enhancement Base Skills Modified Skills Skills (Level 1) (Level 16) Balance 6 12 Bluff -2 -1 Concentration 3 5 Diplomacy -2 -1 Disable Device 6 22 Haggle 2 3 Heal 2 3 Hide 2 4 Intimidate 2 18 Jump 7 11 Listen 2 3 Move Silently 2 4 Open Lock 6 14 Perform n/a n/a Repair 2 2 Search 6 24 Spot 2 3 Swim 3 6 Tumble 6 8 Use Magic Device 2 18 Level 1 (Rogue) Skill: Balance (+4) Skill: Disable Device (+4) Skill: Haggle (+4) Skill: Intimidate (+4) Skill: Jump (+4) Skill: Open Lock (+4) Skill: Search (+4) Skill: Tumble (+4) Skill: Use Magic Device (+4) Feat: (Selected) Dodge Level 2 (Ranger) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead Level 3 (Ranger) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Feat: (Selected) Mobility Level 4 (Ranger) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Level 5 (Ranger) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Level 6 (Ranger) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack Level 7 (Ranger) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Level 8 (Ranger) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Level 9 (Ranger) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons Level 10 (Ranger) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Level 11 (Ranger) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider Level 12 (Ranger) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Feat: (Selected) Toughness Level 13 (Monk) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Skill: Open Lock (+0.5) Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5) Feat: (Monk Bonus) Combat Expertise Level 14 (Ranger) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1.5) Level 15 (Ranger) Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Skill: Search (+2) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Feat: (Selected) Power Attack Level 16 (Ranger) Ability Raise: STR Skill: Disable Device (+1) Skill: Intimidate (+1) Skill: Jump (+1) Skill: Search (+1) Skill: Use Magic Device (+1) Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost I Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost II Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost III Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost IV Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack II Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage I Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Damage II Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II Enhancement: Racial Toughness I Enhancement: Racial Toughness II Enhancement: Racial Toughness III Enhancement: Racial Toughness IV Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage IV Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I Enhancement: Ranger Search I Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild I Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
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06-29-2009, 03:54 AM #5Community Member
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Dwarf Pal makes a nice tank. Rog (Evasion) or Ftr (Feats) splash for Intim.
Rgr6/Pal14 is also good.
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06-29-2009, 04:04 AM #6Community Member
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Originally Posted by Demoyn
Thanks man, but I was looking more at just making a tank that dual wields. Should I focus on fighter and splash ranger and monk? What would be the best combination for the highest ac while duel wielding dwarven axes? I was reading some more and I thought this might be good: 9 Ranger / 2 Monk / 5 Fighter I would also take tempest for ac, but I still dont understand one thing does it realy matter in the order you take your classes not including the first one, is the olny thing you need to take under consideration when picking the order to choose classes is playing at that level?
Thanks, DavidLast edited by noobkid15; 06-29-2009 at 05:08 AM.
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06-29-2009, 09:27 AM #7Community Member
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That build is a tank that dual-wields. Originally Posted by noobkid15
To get the best AC while dual-wielding Dwarfen Axes you need 18 Ranger levels. That leaves you 2 levels to splash into to other classes.
- 1 Monk / 1 Rogue for AC and utility.
- 1 Monk / 1 Paladin for highest AC and a little save boost.
- 2 Fighter for DPS if you are a bit more "exotic".
Wear a Fullplate, take all the dwarfen armor max-dex-raising enhancements, later aim for the Dragoncrafted Fullplate from the Reaver´s Refuge. Yu will loose out Evasion in situations where you go for best-AC, but are more "tankish" and you dont need to wear a dress. Only done a light armor when you know Evasion is more important in the coming fight than AC. (Pit Fiend in the Shroud comes to mind).
P.S.
Do you have PB32 unlocked? Also which tomes can we expect for your build to be available?
Without that i cant give you proper stat distribution advice.Last edited by Noctus; 06-29-2009 at 09:30 AM.
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06-29-2009, 09:46 AM #8Community Member
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Just a note on this... even if it is only 25%.... 25% auto kill with zero danger is still worth a feat, especially if you have fighter levels and have extra feats... Originally Posted by Demoyn
I think Stunning Blow is a very good feat... and it lands more often on casters (who are usually more dangerous anyway) Originally Posted by Teh_Troll
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06-29-2009, 10:17 AM #9Community Member
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How about droping that BS? Originally Posted by Demoyn
A well built TWF fighter in defensive stance and CE can reach 70 self buffed AC. That's higher than the oh so great exploiter.
Granted, the exploiter is like 8 % ahead in DPS, and have got evasion.
But it can't swap to a shield and reach 76 selfbuffed AC and boost it up to 80 and at the same time gaining 6 dr/-.
Oh, dont forget 70+ intimidate and 500+ HP.
While the exploiter is a good build, but don't underestimate pure fighters.
Dwarf is a very illogical choice of race for an "Exploiter". The saves are already pretty high so spelldefense is meh. Originally Posted by Demoyn
All you get is slightly higher HP potential while getting much lower DPS (if you stick with DAs).Last edited by Yargore; 06-29-2009 at 01:14 PM.
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06-29-2009, 10:19 AM #10Community Member
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Mind showing an AC breakdown to back that up? Originally Posted by Noctus
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This is really what I was looking for but didn't know how to reach it so I assumed a bit of ranger for the dual wielding what advice do you have for a build like mentioned above? Is it a pure fighter or does it splash a little in ranger or monk? Originally Posted by Yargore
Also this might seem like a really stupid question but I haven't played in 9 months so I cant remember if your equipment stat increases satisfy feat prerequisite, my first assumption is no because if you took it off then you would still have the feet but not satisfy the prerequisite.
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I do have 32pnt build available and can get +1 and +2 tomes but +3 would be more of a challenge.Last edited by noobkid15; 06-29-2009 at 02:19 PM.
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06-29-2009, 02:33 PM #12Community Member
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Here's a dwarven version: http://community.codemasters.com/for...&postcount=397 Originally Posted by noobkid15
And here comes a Human version:
Name: XXXXXX
Class: Fighter 20
Race: Human
Allignment: Neutral
Starting Stats:
Str 16
Dex 15
Con 14
Int 12
Wis 8
Cha 12
Ending Stats:
Str 36 (16 base + 5 level + 6 item + 2 tome + 3 enhancement + 4 defensive stance)
Dex 24 (15 base + 2 tome + 1 enhancement + 6 item)
Con 26 (14 base + 1 tome + 6 item + 4 defensive stance)
Int 14 (12 base + 2 tome)
Wis 8 (8 base)
Cha 20 (12 base + 2 tome +6 item)
Final AC Breakdown:
10 Base
6 dex
15 Dragontouched fp
5 deflection
5 combat expertise
1 Dodge
3 Chattering Ring
4 insight
2 chaos
1 Rituals
3 stalwart defender
(10 shield + ritual)
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55 (65) - unbuffed
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3 bark pot
1 haste
4 shield wand/clickie/cookie
2 recitation
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65 (71) - self buffed
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4 defensive stance
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69 (75) - stance
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4 armor boost
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73 (79) - self buffed + boost
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2 barkskin
4 bard song
6 aura
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85 (91) with party buffs
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Enhancements
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost III
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost IV
Enhancement: Fighter Extra Action Boost II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability I: Dexterity
Enhancement: Human Adaptability II: Strenght
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Human Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery III
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense II
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate IV
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Stalwart Defender III
Enhancement: Fighter Khopesh Specalization II
Enhancement: Fighter Weapon Alacrity
Feats:
1. Iron Will
1 (Human). Khopesh
1 (Fighter). Two Weapon Fighting
2 (Fighter). Combat Expertise
3. Force of Personality
4 (Fighter). Weapon Focus: Slashing
6. Dodge
6. (Fighter). Weapon Specalization: Slashing
8 (Fighter). Improved Two Weapon Fighting
9. Improved Critical: Slashing (swap to pierce when you get 2 x mineral II)
10 (Fighter). Power attack
12. Skill Focus: Intimidate
12 (Fighter). Greater Weapon Specalization: Slashing
14 (Fighter).Greater Two Weapon Fighting
15. Toughness
16 (Fighter). Oversized Two Weapon Fighting
18. Luck of Heroes
18 (Fighter). Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing
20 (Fighter). Quickdraw
Saves Unbuffed
Fortitude: 25 (12 fighter + 6 con + 5 res + 1 ritual +1 luck of heroes)
Reflex: 20 (6 fighter + 7 dex + 5 res +1 luck of heroes )
Will: 20 (6 fighter + 5 cha + 5 res +2 iron will + 1 ritual +1 luck of heroes)
Saves Self Buffed
Fortitude: 34 ( + 4 GH + 3 Dstance + 2 recitation)
Reflex: 30( + 4 GH + 1 haste + 3 Dstance + 2 recitation)
Will: 29 ( + 4 GH + 3 Dstance + 2 recitation)
Hit Points
200 Fighter
160 con
20 heroic durability
10 draconic vitality
22 toughness
40 tougness enhancements
30 greater false life
45 shroud item
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527 hp
Skill Points:
Eat a +2 int tome at level 1 and take balance, jump, intimidate, UMD
Don't forget to take 1 rank of tumble too.
Intimidate:
23 ranks
5 cha
4 enhancement
6 stalwart defender
3 feat
15 item
6 crafted item
2 reaver trinket
4 GH
2 bard song
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70
UMD:
11 ranks
5 cha
6 crafted item
2 reaver trinket
4 GH
5 Titan gloves
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33
The dwarven version have 1 higher AC and better saves, but the human version have way higher DPS, so I recommend that you go human.
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My wife specifically asked for a dwarf. Who am I to say no? It's still a VERY good character. Originally Posted by Yargore
It gets an extra 36 hp, +4 AC vs giants, and higher spell saves for a tradeoff of around 20 DPS. Plus... it keeps me in the good graces of the woman who controls my extra curricular activities, if you know what I mean.
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How much better is the dps on the human vs the dwarf Originally Posted by Yargore
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Okay, the choice doesn't seem illogical anymore Originally Posted by Demoyn
My wife specifically asked for a dwarf. Who am I to say no? It's still a VERY good character.
It gets an extra 36 hp, +4 AC vs giants, and higher spell saves for a tradeoff of around 20 DPS. Plus... it keeps me in the good graces of the woman who controls my extra curricular activities, if you know what I mean.
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5-10% or so, almost as much as the tempest attackspeed protion increases your damage. Originally Posted by noobkid15
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When you're talking level 20 and we're talking level 16 it kind of makes a bit of a difference. Let's advance ours for level 20, shall we? Originally Posted by Yargore
10 Base
7 dex
8 armor bracers
4 icy raiments
6 wisdom
5 deflection
5 combat expertise
1 Dodge
3 Chattering Ring
4 insight
1 Rituals
3 stalwart defender
4 tempest shield
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60 unbuffed
5 barskin
1 haste
2 recitation
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68 self-buffed
4 defensive stance
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72 stance
4 bard song
6 aura
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82 with party buffs
Now since you can't really count your armor boost as AC (since it's limited time), we have a better unbuffed AC, a better self-buffed AC, and a better DPS mode AC (you win in turtle mode only).
144 ranger
6 rogue
8 monk
160 con
20 heroic durability
10 draconic vitality
22 toughness
40 tougness enhancements
30 greater false life
20 minos legens
45 shroud item
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505 hp
23 ranks
-1 cha
6 stalwart defender
15 item
6 crafted item
4 GH
2 bard song
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57 intimidate (of course, our build tanks better through damage anyway)
23 ranks
2 cha
6 crafted item
2 reaver trinket
4 GH
5 Titan gloves
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42 UMD (plus we auto-succeed on all ranger spells during low levels where self-healing is nice)
In exchange for having a lower intimidate which we rarely use and slightly less hit points (though we still have more than enough to adequately tank), we get a significant amount of extra damage (1d6+3 sneak attack and +6 vs favored enemies), full rogue skills, more non-turtle AC, evasion (very nice for tanking), and bow strength/manyshot for those times when ranged is needed.
Now let's take a look at equipment:
Your build's equipment will look like ...
Trinket - head of good fortune
Head - greensteel hp item
Goggles - tharne's goggles
Neck - con +6
Back - cha +6
Body - dragontouched full plate (with +5 protection rune)
Wrist - chaosguardes
Waist - titan belt (str +6, greater false life)
Ring - chattering ring
Ring - disease immunity of heavy fortification
Glove - dex +6
Boots - greensteel +6 cha item
Weapon - Greensteel insight weapon
Weapon -
However, ours will be...
Trinket - bloodstone
Head - minos legens
Goggles - tharne's goggles
Neck - con +6
Back - greensteel hp with protection +5 (switch to cha for UMD)
Body - icy raiments
Wrist - armor +8
Waist - disease immunity of greater false life
Ring - chattering ring
Ring - str +6
Glove - greensteel with +6 cha skills
Boots - the new deminisonal lock boots
Weapon - Greensteel insight weapon
Weapon -
So we also get to add a bloodstone and deminsional lock boots whereas you'll be dismissed out of Shavarath and deal even less damage.\
Now I'm not saying that your build sucks or anything; it's actually quite ingenious. It can't do all that you claim without sacrifices, though. Those sacrifices just don't add up to something I'd be comfortable making personally.
EDIT: I also forgot about the tempest III STWF bonus. That's another significant damage source to add to our build.Last edited by Demoyn; 06-29-2009 at 03:42 PM.
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Stalwart defender and tempest III. Hmm something doesn't add up here. Originally Posted by Demoyn
Unless ofcourse you are planning it for mod 1x, but then you can't in no reasonable way compare it to a mod 9 build.
It's not even certain that dwarfs will get stalwart defender. Even if they get it, it will be very expensive to have 2 tier III PrEs.
I am still correct though, you don't need shield or monksplash to reach high AC, if 70 self buffed AC is not worth mentioning, then I don't know what is.
I can use bloodstone aswell you know, that build will manage just fine with 2 less intimi 98% of the time.
And this is how I would do the items:
Mainhand: Mineral II Khopesh Insight
Offhand: Mineral II DKhopesh +2 con
Shield: Leviks defender
Head: +15 intimi
Goggles: Tharnes
Armor: Dragontouched fp with +5 resistance, +6 con and Destruction
Bracers: Chaosgarde
Gloves: 45 hp, +5 prot, heavy fort,
Ring: chattering ring
Ring: Tumbleweed (+6 dex)
Boots: Fancy mod 9 boots.
Belt: +6 str, greater false life
Cloak: +6 cha
Necklace: +6 cha skills
Trinket: Reavers head/bloodstone
Have fun with no dex item.
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Heh, doh! I had originally slotted the Tharne's bracers for my build. After thinking about it, though, I switched it to the higher AC bracers because the OP wanted more of a tank than a DPSer, and -20% aggro doesn't help that. I just forgot to reslot the dex item. Originally Posted by Yargore
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Originally Posted by Greydeath
This one is THE highest dps of anything mentioned here ... 10% sacred bonus to attack speed (Zeal spell) PLUS the 10% tempest attack speed bonus ... you can't go wrong here.Officer of ARCHANGELS - Thelanis
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