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    I have a level 15 Barbarian currently. I was waiting for Superior Two weapon fighting to come out for him but I ma not sure if that is going to happen now. I had a place holer feat (Khopesh) at level 15 hoping STWF would be in the game.

    Dont know what I should do now. Advice would be greatly appreciated.

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    Level 15 Chaotic Good Human Male
    (15 Barbarian) 
    Hit Points: 317
    Spell Points: 0 
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 13
    Reflex: 9
    Will: 5
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 15)
    Strength             16                    21
    Dexterity            16                    18
    Constitution         16                    19
    Intelligence          8                     9
    Wisdom               10                    11
    Charisma              8                     9
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 1
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
    +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 1
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 15)
    Balance               6                    13
    Bluff                -1                    -1
    Concentration         3                     4
    Diplomacy            -1                    -1
    Disable Device       n/a                   n/a
    Haggle               -1                    -1
    Heal                  0                     0
    Hide                  4                     4
    Intimidate            3                    17
    Jump                  7                    23
    Listen                0                     0
    Move Silently         4                     4
    Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
    Perform              n/a                   n/a
    Repair               -1                    -1
    Search               -1                    -1
    Spot                  0                     0
    Swim                  3                     5
    Tumble                n/a                   n/a
    Use Magic Device      1                     8
    
    Level 1 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Willpower I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness I
    
    
    Level 2 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
    Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
    
    
    Level 3 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I
    
    
    Level 4 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Willpower II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness II
    
    
    Level 5 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Item Defense I
    
    
    Level 6 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage II
    
    
    Level 7 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Willpower III
    
    
    Level 8 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
    
    
    Level 9 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
    Enhancement: Barbarian Item Defense II
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage III
    
    
    Level 10 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution II
    
    
    Level 11 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Critical Rage I
    Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness III
    
    
    Level 12 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage IV
    
    
    Level 13 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness IV
    
    
    Level 14 (Barbarian)
    Enhancement: Barbarian Critical Rage II
    
    
    Level 15 (Barbarian)
    Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
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    Not gonna happen, but keep khopesh, and use em as your main weapon style ^^

    Also even if stwf would ever come out, you'll need a 19 base dex, so until you get a +3 tome, you wouldn't be able to take it. But as stated, we won't get it. Only rangers get stwf if going for tempest 3 in mod 9.

    Should they reintroduce it as selectable feat, you can always just respec.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivanto View Post
    Not gonna happen, but keep khopesh, and use em as your main weapon style ^^

    Also even if stwf would ever come out, you'll need a 19 base dex, so until you get a +3 tome, you wouldn't be able to take it. But as stated, we won't get it. Only rangers get stwf if going for tempest 3 in mod 9.

    Should they reintroduce it as selectable feat, you can always just respec.
    I really prefer picks to khopeshes...

    especially with the 17-20 x4 damage.
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    Reroll.

    18 base strength. 16 is too low.
    15 base dex is plenty, +2 tome for GTWF. Heck even 14/13 if your willing to wait on a +3/4 dex tome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    Reroll.

    18 base strength. 16 is too low.
    15 base dex is plenty, +2 tome for GTWF. Heck even 14/13 if your willing to wait on a +3/4 dex tome.
    This.
    Chaotic neutral does nothing for you.
    Dex is too high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shade View Post
    Reroll.

    18 base strength. 16 is too low.
    15 base dex is plenty, +2 tome for GTWF. Heck even 14/13 if your willing to wait on a +3/4 dex tome.
    I am not so sure 1 point of damage and +1 to hit is worth rerolling for??? and what happens if later they do add STWF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowdenicus View Post
    I am not so sure 1 point of damage and +1 to hit is worth rerolling for??? and what happens if later they do add STWF?
    STWF won't be available for barbarians, only rangers, according to Shade.

    +1 damage per swing that stacks with everything.
    Power attack enhancements are only +1 each, you snapped up all of those.
    How many times do you swing at an enemy? A portal? Adds up quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowdenicus View Post
    I am not so sure 1 point of damage and +1 to hit is worth rerolling for??? and what happens if later they do add STWF?
    1 point is everything. more damage = less time to take down a mob = less resources used. with end content mobs having a huge hp pool, every little bit helps. a bard with a +4/5 IC will never never need an extra charm stone in hound normal. a bard with a +3 song may need a 5th stone and possibly lead to raid failure
    If you want to know why...

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    If you have free spots for new characters, it would be worthwhile to roll up a new barb and have fun with him. Then you can turn this character into a shroud only toon for ingredients, deleting later when you need another slot. Don't need to spend a lot of time/effort getting him set with shroud items / DT armor / etc.

    But if you are out of slots, I myself would be tempted to start a new barb instead. If you are going to be putting the work into getting the barb all the raid/crafting gear it's always good to make sure the stats are done right.

    That being said, the character is playable.

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    The character is playable, no need to reroll.

    Yes he can benefit from rerolling, but not so much that i´d recommend it for anybody except those people who cap a character in 2 weeks of realtime. And you´d need at least one +2 tome to really benefit from it.

    All the basics that make up a good Barbarian are there. Only IC:Piercing should be swapped to IC:Slashing. A more casual player should think twice about rerolling a build without fundamental design flaws.

    There is a difference between "can be made better through rerolling" and "messed up build which will perfrom poorly". Both are viable reasons to reroll, but the 1st reason might not hold a good enough gain/investment ratio to be really worth it in many cases for the more casual players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noctus View Post
    There is a difference between "can be made better through rerolling" and "messed up build which will perfrom poorly". Both are viable reasons to reroll, but the 1st reason might not hold a good enough gain/investment ratio to be really worth it in many cases for the more casual players.
    If he plans to add shroud items, raid items, DT Armor, invest tomes, etc. Then this is bad advice given. If you are going to grind all the above gear, then reroll IS the best option.

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    I decided to keep my current barbarian basically as is. I also decided to create a warforged 2 handed fighting barbarian.
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