Let's Talk DR

[Demoyn]

It has recently come to my attention that I just don't have the grasp on DR that I'd like to have. What are the ways to get DR (shield blocking, base shield bonus, warforged, barbarian, etc) and what are the stacking bonuses (shield, racial, etc)? What's the current highest DR in the game and what was used to get it?

[BlackSteel]

shield feats with a hound shield along with a warforge blocking would give you the highest; this involves either the titan clickie or the more feasible defiance proc.

out of all of that, the shield feats contribute the least. Actively blocking and the docent contribute the most.

[maddmatt70]

For a fighter either use a shield, be a warforge, or make shroud stoneskin clickies (or have enough umd for wands). All the items in DDO are at best 5/dr (e.g. symbiot trinket) which will not be satisfactory enough for the current end game in my opinion or likely for next mod (I have not played end game quests in Beta and can not talk about even if I did because of the NDA). Fighters could very well be more dependent on casters/clerics in the future then barbarians who knows so any way I can reduce that dependency for my fighter the better I feel.

Note: an interesting guard that someone could make for their fighter is the DT earthen guard which might be very effective.

[Trillea]

I see many VoN 4 runs in my future...

[NXPlasmid]

Mod9 be a 20lvl monk 10/epic DR

[Borror0]

http://ddo.enterwiki.net/page/DR

[twoton]

I did build a max WF dr build a while back capped him and the highest dr I could get while attacking was 10 dr. thats taking addy plate body, improved dr feat @ 3,6,9,12, and 15 and all the WF enhancments. The blocking dr with a tower shield on him is 19. His dps is gimped out but I built him has a pally and should have went fighter instead.

[Xionanx]

Highest DR possible to my knowledge, and I'm sure I'll be corrected if wrong.

LvL 16 Dwarf Barbarian with Adamantine Towever Shield +5

5/- Barbarian Level
2/- Barbarian Improved DR
2/- Medium Adamantine Armor
1/- Adamantine Tower Shield
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10/- Passive DR (while not defending)

10/- Passive DR
8/- 1/2 BaB While Actively Defending
2/- Defending DR
9/- Adamantine Tower Shield
3/- Shield Mastery
3/- Improved Shield Mastery
3/- Dwarf Shield Mastery Enhancements
------------------------------------------------------------
38/- Active DR (while actively blocking with shield)


Why Dwarf and not warforged? Because warforged adamantine body feat gives 3/Adamantine which does NOT stack with the x/- given from blocking. Also x/Adamantine is not as good as x/- since it can be bypassed where x/- cannot.

[Visty]

Highest DR possible to my knowledge, and I'm sure I'll be corrected if wrong.

LvL 16 Dwarf Barbarian with Adamantine Towever Shield +5

5/- Barbarian Level
2/- Barbarian Improved DR
----------------------------------
7/- Passive DR (while not defending)

corrected.
ada armor and shield dont stack with barb DR

also, what is defending dr? those 2/-

also, take the hound shield, that has a dr of 15, better then a normal towershield

oh, and if you go warforged, you have more active dr due to either titan docent (30/-) or docent of defiance (20/-)

[Xionanx]

corrected.
ada armor and shield dont stack with barb DR

also, what is defending dr? those 2/-

also, take the hound shield, that has a dr of 15, better then a normal towershield

oh, and if you go warforged, you have more active dr due to either titan docent (30/-) or docent of defiance (20/-)

By titan docent I think you mean Titanic Docent? Titan shield would not count towards actively shield blocking.

Docent of Defiance.. I would also not count on something that has a "random" effect and cripples as a source of DR.

The Defending DR is the 2/- that is granted simply by the act of blocking. Everyone gets it at every level.

Noted that the DR doesn't stack from Shield and Class. New Calculations are:


LvL 16 Dwarf Barbarian with Adamantine Towever Shield +5

5/- Barbarian Level
2/- Barbarian Improved DR
----------------------------------
7/- Passive DR (while not defending)

7/- Passive DR
8/- 1/2 BaB While Actively Defending
2/- Defending DR
9/- Adamantine Tower Shield
3/- Shield Mastery
3/- Improved Shield Mastery
3/- Dwarf Shield Mastery Enhancements
------------------------------------------------------------
35/- Active DR (while actively blocking with shield)

As I believe has been pointed out above, a person "could" take Adamantine Body at LvL 1 as a Warfoged, then Improved DR at levels 3, 6, 9, 12, and 15. And then take the Improved DR Racial Enhancements bringing thier "standing" DR on a warforged to:

3 Adamantine Body
5 Improved DR Feats
3 Warforged Damage Reduction Enhancement
------------------------------------------------------------
11/Adamantine (Standing)

However I would have to say that spending ALL your feats on this would be really gimping yourself.

[Salome]

http://ddo.enterwiki.net/page/dr

Nice. Very Nice!

[Visty]

By titan docent I think you mean Titanic Docent? Titan shield would not count towards actively shield blocking.

i meant the 30sec clicky from the titan, yes

should have wrote passive dr, my mistake

though afaik you dont get a DR2/- just for blocking, you only get 1/2 your BAB as blocking dr and 2 extra ac...