build idea :arcane tempist

[ChadMan]

ok so ive been toying with the idea of makeing some kind of arcane tempist build for a wile and finaly brought it in to charicter planer. This is kind of like my rough draft of the build. He is a bit diffrent of a build. Hes kind of a CC build he will throw down a fw or 2 a solid fog and a gliter dust then ehter sheild block some how or just mele stuff down. He is gona use warhammers twf

tell me what you think.

Here he is

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Level 16 Lawful Good Human Male
(7 Ranger \ 9 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 144+48 con item+30 gfl+20 menos+10 favor=252
Spell Points: 762+48 int item+200 archmaji bracers from vod=1010 
BAB: 11\11\16\21
Fortitude: 10
Reflex: 14
Will: 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 16)
Strength             15                    16
Dexterity            16                    22
Constitution         12                    14
Intelligence         16                    22
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma              8                     8

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 16
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 16
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 16
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 16

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
Balance               5                     8
Bluff                -1                    -1
Concentration         5                     6
Diplomacy            -1                    -1
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                    -1
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  7                    12
Intimidate           -1                    -1
Jump                  6                     9
Listen                3                     3
Move Silently         7                    12
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                3                     6
Search                7                    10
Spot                  3                     3
Swim                  6                     7
Tumble                5                     8
Use Magic Device     n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Feat: (Human Bonus) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 2 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Enhancement: Ranger Hide I
Enhancement: Ranger Jump I
Enhancement: Ranger Move Silently I
Enhancement: Wizard Elemental Manipulation I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I


Level 4 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Swamp Lore I
Enhancement: Ranger Tundra Lore I
Enhancement: Ranger Desert Lore I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence I


Level 5 (Wizard)


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Intelligence I
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II


Level 7 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost II
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Elements I


Level 8 (Wizard)


Level 9 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
Enhancement: Wizard Improved Maximizing I
Enhancement: Wizard Lineage of Deadly Elements I
Enhancement: Wizard Elemental Manipulation II
Enhancement: Wizard Spell Penetration I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar II


Level 10 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant


Level 11 (Wizard)


Level 12 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
Enhancement: Ranger Hide II
Enhancement: Ranger Jump II
Enhancement: Ranger Move Silently II


Level 13 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost III
Enhancement: Ranger Desert Lore II
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II


Level 14 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Wizard Elemental Manipulation III


Level 15 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Mental Toughness
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Dexterity II


Level 16 (Wizard)
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar III

ok so heres were im stuck im fine with the sp but im trying to find a way to get more HP right now im planing to hide behind my displace and stoneskin but those cant save me some times. Im hopeing i dont have to resort to a greensteel item or a +3 tome.

thanks

chadman

[Demoyn]

tell me what you think.

I quoted the above to remind me that you asked for this!

Currently as you have this build there's no way it can contribute successfully to a party. You don't have the hit points to survive front line combat, but you also don't have the mana or DC/spell pen to help with spell flinging.

However... I'm really liking the idea of the build. A front line ranger who follows the elven way of the bladesinger. First, you need to declare a focus. For a tempest that focus should obviously be melee. Let's adjust the levels to ranger 11 / wizard 5 for this. We also like the change because it will significantly help our base attack bonus.

Now that we have class levels and a foundation, we have to give this character some synergy to make it optimal. For roleplay reasons you want to make it an elf, but for DDO optimization this character would be best as a warforged. It would allow you to heal yourself with wands/scrolls (full restore as opposed to the cure serious wands of a ranger), give you enough hit points to survive melee combat, and increase your power attack damage.

Actually... I'm going to build something for this right now. The idea has me intrigued.

[Baahb3]

I am working on a similar idea with a different twist. I am going more Ranger than Wizard.

I went Halfling Ranger 12/Wizard 8 with full Dragonmarks for healing. Using the Ranger healing enhancments make the Dragonmarks pretty effective combined with the Maximize Spell feat.

I just did not see any significant level 5 spells to help this build so I went with more Ranger.

I am debating on splashing a level of Monk in there for a Toughness feat and some more AC, making it Ranger 12/Wizard 7/Monk 1.

[Demoyn]

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Drizztbot 
Level 16 Chaotic Good Warforged Male
(11 Ranger \ 5 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 250
Spell Points: 408 
BAB: 13\13\18\23
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 11
Will: 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 16)
Strength             16                    20
Dexterity            14                    16
Constitution         16                    18
Intelligence         14                    15
Wisdom               10                    10
Charisma              6                     6

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead


Level 2 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell
Spell (1): Detect Secret Doors
Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat
Spell (1): Jump
Spell (1): Nightshield
Spell (1): Repair Light Damage
Spell (1): Shield


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility


Level 4 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Ranger)
Spell (1): Camouflage
Spell (1): Longstrider
Spell (1): Merfolk's Blessing
Spell (1): Ram's Might
Spell (1): Resist Energy
Spell (1): Summon Nature's Ally I
Spell (1): Tumble


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack


Level 7 (Ranger)


Level 8 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: STR
Spell (1): Feather Fall
Spell (1): Grease


Level 9 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Spell (2): Blur
Spell (2): Repair Moderate Damage


Level 10 (Wizard)
Spell (2): False Life
Spell (2): Invisibility


Level 11 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell
Spell (3): Haste
Spell (3): Rage


Level 12 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh


Level 13 (Ranger)
Spell (2): Barkskin
Spell (2): Bear's Endurance
Spell (2): Cat's Grace
Spell (2): Cure Light Wounds
Spell (2): Hold Animal
Spell (2): Mass Camouflage
Spell (2): Owl's Wisdom
Spell (2): Protection From Energy
Spell (2): Snare
Spell (2): Spike Growth
Spell (2): Summon Nature's Ally II


Level 14 (Ranger)


Level 15 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 16 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Spell (3): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (3): Neutralize Poison
Spell (3): Remove Disease
Spell (3): Summon Nature's Ally III
Spell (3): Wild Instincts
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness IV
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar II
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence I
Enhancement: Wizard Wand Mastery I
Enhancement: Wizard Wand Mastery II
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II
Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction I
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend II
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend III
Enhancement: Warforged Inscribed Armor I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack III

So here it is - Drizztbot. First I'd like to note that the build won't be exceptional until later levels. As such I didn't put all that much thought into level distribution after getting tempest I. I'd also like to point out that the feats take a little massaging to make them work.

For instance, I took toughness on this build so that I could choose the enhancements, but in reality I'd use Minos Legens in order to fill that requirement until level 18 (at which point I'd have to take toughness again. Instead of toughness you'll take the khopesh proficiency. You'll have to rely on Mineral II khopeshes to fulfil your improved crit range.

Realistically, this build is nothing more than a UMD ranger with a longer haste, barkskin, ram's might, and shield. You'll be able to use reconstruction scrolls, greater heroism scrolls, ddoor scrolls, and teleport scrolls for added utility; on the other hand, so can a full ranger with UMD.

In fact, the more I think about it the more I believe that a ranger 14 / wizard 1 / monk 1 would serve you better. That way you could fit the combat expertise feat and some more AC on your build in order to be a viable solo character and/or tank. Of course now we're so far from your original build that I'm not going to even bother.

Point is... the character I just build could be viable if the time and effort were spent to bring it up to par, but there's no way to make this character concept elite. I suppose I should end with - thanks for listening to my rant.

[SEMPER]

wouldnt be a bad idea to throw in rogue or monk

rogue cuz your intel will be a good amount and u could be a fairly good at the rogue skills plus the sneak attack damage so u could go like 8wiz/6ranger/2rogue

monk cuz your ac will be better and make your guy a bit more survivalble and harder to hit especialy if u went with the warforged version so u can have a decent ac , more hps, and able to self heal and to me thats very importand imo. so u could do 8wiz/6ranger/2monk

now would be the choice whether or not u went more wizzard or more ranger most would say to take ranger i probably would too but its up too u

hope this helps

[Lifespawn]

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Drizztbot 
Level 16 Chaotic Good Warforged Male
(11 Ranger \ 5 Wizard) 
Hit Points: 250
Spell Points: 408 
BAB: 13\13\18\23
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 11
Will: 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 16)
Strength             16                    20
Dexterity            14                    16
Constitution         16                    18
Intelligence         14                    15
Wisdom               10                    10
Charisma              6                     6

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead


Level 2 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell
Spell (1): Detect Secret Doors
Spell (1): Expeditious Retreat
Spell (1): Jump
Spell (1): Nightshield
Spell (1): Repair Light Damage
Spell (1): Shield


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility


Level 4 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR


Level 5 (Ranger)
Spell (1): Camouflage
Spell (1): Longstrider
Spell (1): Merfolk's Blessing
Spell (1): Ram's Might
Spell (1): Resist Energy
Spell (1): Summon Nature's Ally I
Spell (1): Tumble


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack


Level 7 (Ranger)


Level 8 (Wizard)
Ability Raise: STR
Spell (1): Feather Fall
Spell (1): Grease


Level 9 (Wizard)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Spell (2): Blur
Spell (2): Repair Moderate Damage


Level 10 (Wizard)
Spell (2): False Life
Spell (2): Invisibility


Level 11 (Wizard)
Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Maximize Spell
Spell (3): Haste
Spell (3): Rage


Level 12 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh


Level 13 (Ranger)
Spell (2): Barkskin
Spell (2): Bear's Endurance
Spell (2): Cat's Grace
Spell (2): Cure Light Wounds
Spell (2): Hold Animal
Spell (2): Mass Camouflage
Spell (2): Owl's Wisdom
Spell (2): Protection From Energy
Spell (2): Snare
Spell (2): Spike Growth
Spell (2): Summon Nature's Ally II


Level 14 (Ranger)


Level 15 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 16 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Spell (3): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (3): Neutralize Poison
Spell (3): Remove Disease
Spell (3): Summon Nature's Ally III
Spell (3): Wild Instincts
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness IV
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar I
Enhancement: Wizard Energy of the Scholar II
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Wizard Intelligence I
Enhancement: Wizard Wand Mastery I
Enhancement: Wizard Wand Mastery II
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II
Enhancement: Warforged Damage Reduction I
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend II
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend III
Enhancement: Warforged Inscribed Armor I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack III

So here it is - Drizztbot. First I'd like to note that the build won't be exceptional until later levels. As such I didn't put all that much thought into level distribution after getting tempest I. I'd also like to point out that the feats take a little massaging to make them work.

For instance, I took toughness on this build so that I could choose the enhancements, but in reality I'd use Minos Legens in order to fill that requirement until level 18 (at which point I'd have to take toughness again. Instead of toughness you'll take the khopesh proficiency. You'll have to rely on Mineral II khopeshes to fulfil your improved crit range.

Realistically, this build is nothing more than a UMD ranger with a longer haste, barkskin, ram's might, and shield. You'll be able to use reconstruction scrolls, greater heroism scrolls, ddoor scrolls, and teleport scrolls for added utility; on the other hand, so can a full ranger with UMD.

In fact, the more I think about it the more I believe that a ranger 14 / wizard 1 / monk 1 would serve you better. That way you could fit the combat expertise feat and some more AC on your build in order to be a viable solo character and/or tank. Of course now we're so far from your original build that I'm not going to even bother.

Point is... the character I just build could be viable if the time and effort were spent to bring it up to par, but there's no way to make this character concept elite. I suppose I should end with - thanks for listening to my rant.

reconstruct and gh scrolls will be out of reach for this build because unlike wands scrolls do a caster lvl check OR a umd check whichever is higher tho ddoor and teleport scrolls might be within reach but they would have to be high rolls.

[Thrudh]

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=182608

My halfling build above doesn't have tempest, instead going with the healing dragonmarks...

As a partial wizard, you're only good for buffing (firewall can halfway decent)... There's not much point in going past 6 or 7 levels of wizard...

Rangers get all their good free feats by 11 (plus 3 favored enemies), so when the cap goes to 20, an 12/8 or a 12/7/1 (I like rogue) are all good builds... 11/9 could work too if you're determined to get 9 levels of wizard...

The OP build has too few ranger levels and too many wizard levels...

Now... if you went warforged, I could see going for 11 levels of wizard for reconstruct... but a 11/9 wizard/ranger has a lot of feats to make up (and only 2favored enemies).

[Demoyn]

reconstruct and gh scrolls will be out of reach for this build because unlike wands scrolls do a caster lvl check OR a umd check whichever is higher tho ddoor and teleport scrolls might be within reach but they would have to be high rolls.

They won't be out of reach, but they'll have a higher failure rate (which I mentioned). I think I miscalculated the failure rate, though. I said 20% previously, but instead it would be a 30% failure rate. Not out of reach by a longshot, but also not extremely reliable.

[Lifespawn]

wiz is lvl 11 for reconstruct thats 6 levels short of the build you have i don't know the formula but i know when i tried to casterlvl check a scroll 2 1 scroll level above my caster lvl i failed more than i liked.

[Demoyn]

wiz is lvl 11 for reconstruct thats 6 levels short of the build you have i don't know the formula but i know when i tried to casterlvl check a scroll 2 1 scroll level above my caster lvl i failed more than i liked.

It's 5% failure chance per level below the casting level.

[Geonis]

It's 5% failure chance per level below the casting level.

False. The Caster level check is:

DC (2 x min level to cast the spell normally)

check = caster level + d20

So, it's 10% per level below minimum.

[Demoyn]

False. The Caster level check is:

DC (2 x min level to cast the spell normally)

check = caster level + d20

So, it's 10% per level below minimum.

Of course it is. Why on earth would a video game about Dungeons and Dragons have a single Dungeons and Dragons rule in it? Why... that'd just be unheard of!