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    Default How my build stack up

    I have a Drow fighter10/ranger4/monk2 and I would like to know how I stack up with others.

    Str 30
    Dex 26
    Con 21
    Int 16
    Wis 12
    Cha 10

    HP 420 AC 41 with Shield

    Feats
    Improved Critical
    power crit
    weapon focus slashing
    weapon specialization slashing
    oversized two weapon fighting
    exotic weapon khopesh
    dodge
    evasion

    Enhancements
    fighter crit accuracy IV
    fighter weapon mastery Khopesh
    Taken all the Dex and str enhancements that I can take also taken all toughness enhancements

    When using two weapon fighting I use (AC 34 with out shield)
    Main +3 cold Iron wounding/enfeabling
    Off hand +4 wounding/maining
    I crit about 90 to 100 not including wounding and maning effects

    When using a shield I use
    +5 green Steel Khopesh holy/positive energy/good burst/aspect of positive energy
    With green steel I crit about 150+/ about 110+ base damage and the rest is green steel effects. Best damage is 180+

    I can boost my damage a little by casting Ram Might which gives me Str of 32

    I am not sure if I should stick with two weapon fighting or just stick with one weapon.
    Maybe I switch to green steel in one hand and a wounder in the other
    I know I don't do as much damage as 16 barb, but how do I stack up to others?

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    Personally, I would drop the weapon focus, weapon spec and power critical.

    You have no toughness feats listed, maybe take two. Take at least one toughness because you won't get any enhancements with minos legens in mod9.

    If you don't want 2 toughness feats, take improved two weapon fighting and use third for greater two weapon fighting. These 2 feats will boost DPS as they allow more attacks and will mitigate the loss of weapon focus/weapon spec to some degree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by knight775042002 View Post
    I have a Drow fighter10/ranger4/monk2 and I would like to know how I stack up with others.
    Until your build gets 6 ranger levels your stats don't matter... you just can't stack up with that level split.

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    You can't be listing all your Feats.

    I have a Dwarf Ftr 8/ Ranger 6/ Monk 2 and I have twelve chosen feats, plus the Ranger Feats given to me for free.

    I only count 7 Chosen Feats on your list.

    Since you have 420 HP on your Drow you must obviously have a Toughness Feat or 2.

    Anyway, without Tempest, GTWF or even ITWF, your TWFing will be rather subpar.

    However, it will still probably be better then S&B.

    You're going to want to take 2 levels of Ranger when the cap goes up for Tempest so you will need Dodge, Mobility, and Spring Attack.

    Normally I would've suggested switching Feats for ITWF and GTWF but it will be tricky to do so if you take those Ranger Levels, because 6 Ranger will automatically grant you ITWF and you'll have it twice.
    UNLESS you switch it out BEFORE you reach Ranger 6, I believe you can get stuck with ITWF twice and unable to switch one of them out.
    And you can't switch out ITWF if you have GTWF, you have to switch out GTWF first, wait 3 days and switch out ITWF, plus the cost and Dragon Shards needed.

    Your best bet may be to tough it out, get those 2 levels of Ranger right away when the cap goes up, get the ITWF for free, and then your last 2 levels of Fighter, in which you grab GTWF.

    Oh yeah, and drop Power Critical, it has really no benefit at high levels.

    You will need to keep weapon focus and weapon spec for Kensai PrE, which can work nicely with Tempest 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eonfreon View Post
    You can't be listing all your Feats.

    I have a Dwarf Ftr 8/ Ranger 6/ Monk 2 and I have twelve chosen feats, plus the Ranger Feats given to me for free.

    I only count 7 Chosen Feats on your list.

    Since you have 420 HP on your Drow you must obviously have a Toughness Feat or 2.

    Anyway, without Tempest, GTWF or even ITWF, your TWFing will be rather subpar.

    However, it will still probably be better then S&B.

    You're going to want to take 2 levels of Ranger when the cap goes up for Tempest so you will need Dodge, Mobility, and Spring Attack.

    Normally I would've suggested switching Feats for ITWF and GTWF but it will be tricky to do so if you take those Ranger Levels, because 6 Ranger will automatically grant you ITWF and you'll have it twice.
    UNLESS you switch it out BEFORE you reach Ranger 6, I believe you can get stuck with ITWF twice and unable to switch one of them out.
    And you can't switch out ITWF if you have GTWF, you have to switch out GTWF first, wait 3 days and switch out ITWF, plus the cost and Dragon Shards needed.

    Your best bet may be to tough it out, get those 2 levels of Ranger right away when the cap goes up, get the ITWF for free, and then your last 2 levels of Fighter, in which you grab GTWF.

    Oh yeah, and drop Power Critical, it has really no benefit at high levels.

    You will need to keep weapon focus and weapon spec for Kensai PrE, which can work nicely with Tempest 1.
    Yeah I think is is a good idea, It is going to be a little tricky. I just picked up ITWF and will change it out before LV6 ranger. Then take 2 more lv of fighter to get GTWF. I have toughness feat aready and Minos Legens. I know Minos toughness feat is going away at mod9 but I think I might be able to get another toughness enhancement.
    It is going to take every dragon shard that I have but I think I can make it work.
    Thanks,

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    So your saying I should take 2 more lv of ranger in mod9?

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    Quote Originally Posted by knight775042002 View Post
    So your saying I should take 2 more lv of ranger in mod9?
    Yes. Your build right now is really kind of crappy. Ironically enough, though, you can make it a really good build after the level cap goes up.

    Take two levels of ranger and two levels of fighter and your level split will be a pretty good one. It'll take a little work to make the feats fit right, but I'm pretty sure it can be done. Take greater two weapon fighting with your level 18 feat and the rest can be worked backwards for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demoyn View Post
    Yes. Your build right now is really kind of crappy. Ironically enough, though, you can make it a really good build after the level cap goes up.

    Take two levels of ranger and two levels of fighter and your level split will be a pretty good one. It'll take a little work to make the feats fit right, but I'm pretty sure it can be done. Take greater two weapon fighting with your level 18 feat and the rest can be worked backwards for.

    I concure.

    Atm you are very sub-optimal (read: bad build), but if you take 2 Ranger and then 2 Fightert elvels once the cap goes up you can become a really excellent DPS dealer! Take GTWF at 18th level (your 6th ranger level), switch some feats around so you can take Tempest I and then you will be a top-notch TWFer.




    fighter crit accuracy IV as well as Power Critical are totally and utterly useless. If you hit on a 2+, and according to your stats and levels you do, you will also confirm each and every crit on a 2+ already.
    So you simply have a wasted feat and 10 wasted AP, and get nothing in return for it.

    Contrary to the weapon seeker enchantment (which also comes in bloodstone form) these two do not add to crit damge.
    --> utter garbage on every non-cripple-gimped melee toon. If these enhancments and the feat would actually help your toon it would be in dire need of a complete reroll!



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    AC 41 at cap is as protective as a wet paper towel. Only loweres the damage you deal per secound, with zero gain in defence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noctus View Post
    I concure.

    Atm you are very sub-optimal (read: bad build), but if you take 2 Ranger and then 2 Fightert elvels once the cap goes up you can become a really excellent DPS dealer! Take GTWF at 18th level (your 6th ranger level), switch some feats around so you can take Tempest I and then you will be a top-notch TWFer.




    fighter crit accuracy IV as well as Power Critical are totally and utterly useless. If you hit on a 2+, and according to your stats and levels you do, you will also confirm each and every crit on a 2+ already.
    So you simply have a wasted feat and 10 wasted AP, and get nothing in return for it.

    Contrary to the weapon seeker enchantment (which also comes in bloodstone form) these two do not add to crit damge.
    --> utter garbage on every non-cripple-gimped melee toon. If these enhancments and the feat would actually help your toon it would be in dire need of a complete reroll!



    P.S.
    Drop the Shield.
    AC 41 at cap is as protective as a wet paper towel. Only loweres the damage you deal per secound, with zero gain in defence.
    Thanks for the help guys,
    I have a bloodstone should I drop my weapon seeker enchantments for something else and just use my bloodstone?
    I am going to redo my enchantments and get rid off the fighter crit accuracy IV and use it for something more usefull.
    I have been playing DDO for a while but never really understand all the feats and enchantments. A lot of them sound really good so you take them, but end up they dont really help much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knight775042002 View Post
    Thanks for the help guys,
    I have a bloodstone should I drop my weapon seeker enchantments for something else and just use my bloodstone?
    I am going to redo my enchantments and get rid off the fighter crit accuracy IV and use it for something more usefull.
    I have been playing DDO for a while but never really understand all the feats and enchantments. A lot of them sound really good so you take them, but end up they dont really help much.
    Every DPS character should have a bloodstone, for sure (even though I've never been lucky enough to get one).

    Drop fighter critical accuracy and use those points to pick up fighter haste boost. Other good enhancements for you are weapon specialization enhancements, ranger sprint boost (just the first rank, though), drow melee attack and damage, dexterity and strength enhancements (keep the totals at even numbers, though), way of the patient tortoise, racial toughness, ranger favored damage (evil outsiders), fighter toughness, and possibly armor mastery depending on your maximum possible AC and dex modifier (don't take this unless you can buff your AC to be over 60, though).

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