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    Quote Originally Posted by edaciousx View Post
    So, you and a group of 6 people are going to put in hours and hours of time into learning the abbot. and then you invite pugs into the group and you have melee kopesh spec rangers taking the staff of petitioner or even better yet, lawful aligned clerics taking the trinket... Or pierce specced barbarians taking the enduring conviction.

    You mean to tell me, you aren't going to have a leader loot system? Where the leader gets to say who can take what?

    You've got to be out of your mind. Go back to running the other 5 raids and keep your forum flaming to yourself.
    No I wouldn't cause I wouldn't be in there in the 1st place till the fix it and it can be done legit. And even then if someone loots it they get to decide waht to do with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edaciousx View Post
    So, you and a group of 6 people are going to put in hours and hours of time into learning the abbot. and then you invite pugs into the group and you have melee kopesh spec rangers taking the staff of petitioner or even better yet, lawful aligned clerics taking the trinket... Or pierce specced barbarians taking the enduring conviction.

    You mean to tell me, you aren't going to have a leader loot system? Where the leader gets to say who can take what?

    You've got to be out of your mind. Go back to running the other 5 raids and keep your forum flaming to yourself.
    Yes?

    ...But seriously, lawful aligned clerics aren't allowed to take your Litany's? Why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by edaciousx View Post
    So, you and a group of 6 people are going to put in hours and hours of time into learning the abbot. and then you invite pugs into the group and you have melee kopesh spec rangers taking the staff of petitioner or even better yet, lawful aligned clerics taking the trinket... Or pierce specced barbarians taking the enduring conviction.

    You mean to tell me, you aren't going to have a leader loot system? Where the leader gets to say who can take what?

    You've got to be out of your mind. Go back to running the other 5 raids and keep your forum flaming to yourself.
    So you think it is up to you to tell anyone what to do with loot they pulled? People like you are the very reason I am selective about who I group with in raids. If it is pulled then it is theirs to do with as they wish whether you think it is better for your build or not.

    As for Abbot best of luck finding a good group to complete, it is a fun raid and has some of the more interesting, unique raid loot in the game.
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    To the OP: I kill the Abbott all the time - http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=187721

    This is on Argo of course. I have been running 6-8 successful Abbots a week for the last few months. Could always bring a toon over...
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    Quote Originally Posted by edaciousx View Post
    So, you and a group of 6 people are going to put in hours and hours of time into learning the abbot. and then you invite pugs into the group and you have melee kopesh spec rangers taking the staff of petitioner or even better yet, lawful aligned clerics taking the trinket... Or pierce specced barbarians taking the enduring conviction.

    You mean to tell me, you aren't going to have a leader loot system? Where the leader gets to say who can take what?

    You've got to be out of your mind. Go back to running the other 5 raids and keep your forum flaming to yourself.

    I just want to point out the negative level from aligned items is -1 skills, -1 to hit and -5 hp .. using litany of the dead on a good aligned caster/bard/cleric/anything is pretty harmless compared to its benefits (+1 hit/dam, +1 every stat).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junts View Post
    I just want to point out the negative level from aligned items is -1 skills, -1 to hit and -5 hp .. using litany of the dead on a good aligned caster/bard/cleric/anything is pretty harmless compared to its benefits (+1 hit/dam, +1 every stat).
    There's a -2 to spell pen or DC's aswell on a good aligned toon, I think it's spell pen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Comfortably View Post
    There's a -2 to spell pen or DC's aswell on a good aligned toon, I think it's spell pen.
    I've tested both; there is neither with the negative from aligned items.

    Regular negative levels are -2 saves, -1 casting level, -2 all skills, and -10% hp per negative, but the affect from litany has basically no drawbacks for many characters; my bard just got one last night and his dcs and spell pen are completely normal (well, dcs are 1 better now).

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