Feats Nobody Uses

[Borror0]

Improved Feint
Hamstring

What do you do with these two?

Heck, for Improved Feint, you not only waste a feat slot but wasted points in Bluff!

[Healemup]

I'm also quite sure every rogue acrobat and unarmed monk have IC: bludgeoning - if not they need to reroll or switch it in.

I have two thief acrobats and neither uses the quarterstaff. The reason for acrobat, in my opinion, is for the immunity to knockdown, increased run speed, clickie boost to dex (AC/to-hit). I hardly believe either of those are in need of the bludgeoning feat. Seriously, a radiance rapier and IC: piercing is much more useful on a rogue (anything).

My 2cp.

[TreknaQudane]

What do you do with these two?

Heck, for Improved Feint, you not only waste a feat slot but wasted points in Bluff!

Bluff does not screw over party members, Diplomacy does. The idea for the character is a Hybrid Tanking/Rogue. I don't want to chase creatures, I want them on me. Diplomacy defeats the purpose. When you force a creature to feint, they reposition themselves around you opening them up to anyone's sneak attack. Improved Feint and Cleave is a very effective way to kill the strength on a group of creatures.

Of course, I've played with you, so I'm not too concerned about what you think is a useful feat or not with the way you play.

[Healemup]

Bluff does not screw over party members, Diplomacy does. The idea for the character is a Hybrid Tanking/Rogue. I don't want to chase creatures, I want them on me. Diplomacy defeats the purpose. When you force a creature to feint, they reposition themselves around you opening them up to anyone's sneak attack. Improved Feint and Cleave is a very effective way to kill the strength on a group of creatures.

Of course, I've played with you, so I'm not too concerned about what you think is a useful feat or not with the way you play.

I agree with the first paragraph of your post, but you last comments were not really warranted. You made a good counterpoint, then followed it up with an insult.

[TreknaQudane]

I agree with the first paragraph of your post, but you last comments were not really warranted. You made a good counterpoint, then followed it up with an insult.

I had to get to a level Borror0's good at, flat out denial of arguments and poorly worded insults seemed best.

[Borror0]

Of course, I've played with you, so I'm not too concerned about what you think is a useful feat or not with the way you play.

Not sure what this is supposed to mean but the logic you've given makes sense for that character.

[WeaselKing]

My Big F'n Stick toon uses Imp Crit: Bludgeoning.

Also, a guildie of mine is looking into a 5% weighted maul barb.. so I imagine he'll be using it.

I second this as I am leveling a 5% weighted maul barb myself. I also have a tactics build fighter that uses Sap. He uses sap as the third tactic, trip the first guy, stunning blow the second and sap the third. Of caurse Sap can ne a pain to use in a party since hitting the sapped mob wakes them back up, but for solo, when you are seperated from your party, or you are with a party that knows whats going on, then it works great as there is no save for mobs that can be affected.

[Healemup]

I had to get to a level Borror0's good at, flat out denial of arguments and poorly worded insults seemed best.

I guess I am just sorry you felt like he was the only one who would benefit from your point, but you had already made a valid arguement prior to it. And the follow-up just made for a weaker overall post, that's all.

[Bilger]

What about whirlwind?

[Club'in]

I guess I am just sorry you felt like he was the only one who would benefit from your point, but you had already made a valid arguement prior to it. And the follow-up just made for a weaker overall post, that's all.

This might have had something to do with it:

"Heck, for Improved Feint, you not only waste a feat slot but wasted points in Bluff!"
- Borror

Borror likes the black and white walls of his little box, and tends to belittle anyone who tries to introduce shades of gray into Eberron.

[Healemup]

This might have had something to do with it:

"Heck, for Improved Feint, you not only waste a feat slot but wasted points in Bluff!"
- Borror

Borror likes the black and white walls of his little box, and tends to belittle anyone who tries to introduce shades of gray into Eberron.

Fair enough (although, I have the same feeling on my rogue about wasting points in Bluff...), but the follow-up point held its own based on its own merit.

Anyway, I do understand the want to put a retort out there, just wanted to mention that I was more impressed before I got to that part of the post..

[elraido]

Why wouldn't people take Tower Shield? Most pure Paladins take it.

[Borror0]

Borror likes the black and white walls of his little box, and tends to belittle anyone who tries to introduce shades of gray into Eberron.

For reference, I conceded the point. I had not considered that use of Improved Feint before.

[Junts]

a melee weapon focus is required for warchanter.

[BelVic]

I have resilence for situations like tanking DQ and saving on BB or puncturing fire elementals/efreetis in sos..

For me I like 30 reflex save on barb than 26 reflex when you have evasion

[Yajerman01]

I'm also quite sure every rogue acrobat and unarmed monk have IC: bludgeoning - if not they need to reroll or switch it in.

Aleutian my rogue doesnt have it, but then again he is only 13 and doesnt have his uber rapiers crafted yet.

[Angelus_dead]

I had to get to a level Borror0's good at, flat out denial of arguments and poorly worded insults seemed best.

Borror likes the black and white walls of his little box, and tends to belittle anyone who tries to introduce shades of gray into Eberron.

You people should probably read the rules of this forum, if you'd like to continue accessing it.

[Club'in]

You people should probably read the rules of this forum, if you'd like to continue accessing it.

Hmmm. I notice you didn't call out Borror though, for basically calling TreknaQu'dane an effing idiot with his initial response.

[TEK]

Hmmm. I notice you didn't call out Borror though, for basically calling TreknaQu'dane an effing idiot with his initial response.

to be fair the second part of his first post was his opinion of the skill and feat. the first part of his post was an honest question based on the thought process portrayed by the second part.

I saw no insult on his part

[Borror0]

Hmmm. I notice you didn't call out Borror though, for basically calling TreknaQu'dane an effing idiot with his initial response.

There is nothing in my post that allows you to conclude that.