Feats Nobody Uses

[Djeserit]

Please correct me. The purpose of this thread is that I'm hoping someone will show me a use for one of these feats that I am unaware of.

These are the feats nobody uses.

Acrobatic
Alertness
Athletic
Diehard - only as a free feat
Discipline
Exotic Weapons:Great Crossbow
Great Fortitude
Hamstring
Improved Critical: Bludgeoning or Thrown Weapons
Improved Feint
Improved Shield Bash
Improved Sunder
Mobile Spellcasting
Mobility - unless a requirement
Point Blank Shot - only if required
Power Critical
Precision
Quick Draw
Resilience
Resist Poison
Sap
Self Sufficient
Shot on the Run
Skill Focus: any except UMD, Haggle, Intimidate
Slicing Blow
Snake Blood
Stealthy
Tower Shield Proficiency
Two WEapon Blocking
Weapon Focus - unless it's free (edit: or required for something else)

Eschew Materials
Spell Focus: Abjuration, Conjuration, Evocation, Transmutation
Greater Spell Focus: same

Deflect Arrows

My, that is a lot.

Edit: 'That used to be good back in Mod *...' Doesn't really count.

[Djeserit]

The best answers so far:

Web is a conjuration! - Thanks Nevthial, I think this is much overlooked.
Improved Feint gives everyone a sneak attack, followed by a cleave can debuff a whole group - Nice combo, I never thought of that. Thx
Sap - There's no save if you make the hit. With a good group this can be a super feat. Yet very few take it. Thx Depravity
Precision - can be used to avoid aggroing mobs with DR while killing them with vorpal, nice Mr. Cow

[rest]

My Big F'n Stick toon uses Imp Crit: Bludgeoning.

Also, a guildie of mine is looking into a 5% weighted maul barb.. so I imagine he'll be using it.

[Depravity]

I have used both sap and precision. Not to mention imp crit: bludgeon on my big stick character. In fact, he's got sap too. Good for caster hunting on multiple caster clusters.

My stealth characters w/out full rank stealth levels usually take stealthy first few levels, then go visit Fred.

Reasoning for these:

Sap - 18 (? forget the time, too lazy to look it up) second mesmerize, no save, just for hitting. Usefulness is somewhat dependent on teammates, but this feat is insane if everyone in a group has it.

Precision - even with subtle backstabbing, sometimes you just can't keep from pulling aggro away from the "dps builds". I use it as a nother aggro control tool. Precision on a crippling strike rogue gets you more sneak attacks with strength damage. Doesn't help your kill count, but it does help the rest of the party - essentially any crippling hit with enfeebling weapons gives the entire party a stacking dr 1/ against that mob.

[Zenako]

Well most of the list is a wasteland to be sure...but I actually have taken and used the following:


Precision - the extra +4 to hit was very useful back in the days of Drow Blackguard in Tempest Spine to ensure I was landing with my Cursespewer of Destruction, among other things. At higher levels I eventually swapped it out.

Quickdraw - for the small speed boost to weapon swapping when you are a toolbox of weapons. ON a feat starved toon, nah. On a fighter, you can find a spot for it. Now once you get an UBER weapon so the toolbox no longer matters as much, swap it out.

Tower Shield Proficiency - A melee based cleric at early levels. A tradeoff between easy defense and a slight hit to attack. Non-proficient really hurts. Once you get a Madstone shield, swap it out immediately.

Skill Focus: Thieves skills like Disable for a bridging boost until you no longer need it.
Skill Focus: Negotiator for the True Hagglebots. (Stacks with SF: Haggle)

[Aranticus]

Precision - used to be a feat the original tempest rangers took so they could hit the blackguards in tempest spine
Quick Draw - almost all tactics based characters will try to fit in this feat so they can switch weapons quickly
Weapon Focus - do not know what you mean by free but most fighters will take it

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[QuantumFX]

Weapon Focus: Every Warchanter, Arcane Archer and Deepwood Sniper will have a weapon focus feat. Come Mod 9 every Kensai build will have the feat.

[Gornn]

Weapon Focus Is a pre-req for weapon specialization, is it not? Worth it for that level 4 fighter splash, I would suspect.

[Riorik]

Please correct me.

Weapon Focus - unless it's free

Ding - wrong.
It's a pre-req for Weapon Specialization
It's going to be a pre-req for Fighter Kensai

Especially in 2006/2007 - at lower level caps, there were far fewer opportunities to add additional damage to your weapon mix. Maximum DPS is about if you have the feats, getting maximum damage. If you can fit it, you'd be foolish to NOT buy WS. WF is just another way to add a bonus to hit...which isn't really needed at end-game normal difficulty...that might change in mod9. We may have a reason to run it on elite (loot).

[Borror0]

Precision

That belongs in the list since it is no longer useful.

Quickdraw
Tower Shield Proficiency

I agree, those two do not belong.

Skill Focus: Negotiator for the True Hagglebots. (Stacks with SF: Haggle)

Negotiator is not in his list. Look again.

[Emili]

Weapon Focus: Every Warchanter, Arcane Archer and Deepwood Sniper will have a weapon focus feat. Come Mod 9 every Kensai build will have the feat.

Actually every fighter who cares about dps of anykind will take weapon focus... it is a needed pre-req for weapon specialization (+2 damages) and greater weapon specialization (another +2 stacking damage) and I believe greater weapon specialization is use for the two +1 damage weapon spec enhancements also... thus +6 damage total along with +5 from power attack (+11) allows them to at least rub shoulders with barbs, rangers and paladins in damage output. Without it they're just a punching bag in comparison to the other melee. Kensai requires Superior Weapon Focus.

I'm also quite sure every rogue acrobat and unarmed monk have IC: bludgeoning - if not they need to reroll or switch it in.

[Zenako]

That belongs in the list since it is no longer useful.

Negotiator is not in his list. Look again.

Nope. wrong, you look again....

his list...

Skill Focus: any except UMD, Haggle, Intimidate

Don't see Negotiator on that....

[Borror0]

Weapon Focus - do not know what you mean by free but most fighters will take it

If I made the list, I would put it on the list.

It's useless, except for when it is a prereq to something good. Same applies for Mobility and Spring Attack.

[Korvek]

Nope. wrong, you look again....

his list...

Skill Focus: any except UMD, Haggle, Intimidate

Don't see Negotiator on that....

Negotiator isn't a Skill Focus feat...

[Slink]

Man, I hope Jukob gets in here for this thread.
I bet he could make a character limited to that list of feats and still bring his canopener.

S.

[Borror0]

Don't see Negotiator on that....

Negotiator is not a skill, and therefore does not have it's own skill focus.

It's a feat on its own, like Alertness (which happens to be on his list because it's useless).

[Zenako]

Negotiator isn't a Skill Focus feat...

Duh...oops...been a while since I speced up my bot....slinks away...

[Gornn]

Duh...oops...been a while since I speced up my bot....slinks away...

/hug

Awwww

[TreknaQudane]

I've got a character that makes use of some of these feats.

Improved Feint
Hamstring
Tower Shield Prof.

And thats on the same character. Groups I play with seem to like my characters setup and what I can do with those feats in conjunction with the characters skills and other abilities.

[Nevthial]

Eschew Materials
Spell Focus: Abjuration, Conjuration, Evocation, Transmutation
Greater Spell Focus: same
.

These feats are used by several casters. I used to have Spell Focus Conjuration and Greater Spell focus Conjuration. I may even take The spell focus one again once Mod 9 hits live. I could drop Webs without Heighten on and things stuck in them pretty consistently. At early levels Niac's could one shot almost anything as well. At endgame I'm debating how much I'll be using Trap the Soul so I've been considering taking it again.
Eschew materials frees up inventory slots for casters who carry a ton of stuff and the cost is nearly neglible.