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    Default Cabal Trap Update Pls

    I heard a rumor that the trap is bugged now.

    True or just an excuse?

    What are the elite DC's anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djeserit View Post
    I heard a rumor that the trap is bugged now.

    True or just an excuse?

    What are the elite DC's anyway?
    As far as I remember, they are still high enough that a non-mechanic isn't likely to have the search to find the box (even at lvl 16 and geared out, with a bard nearby), and yet the loot is ho-hum lvl 15chest garbage. Since it is no longer in the realm of loot runs, Nobody I know bothers with that chest, especially while leveling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithic View Post
    As far as I remember, they are still high enough that a non-mechanic isn't likely to have the search to find the box (even at lvl 16 and geared out, with a bard nearby), and yet the loot is ho-hum lvl 15chest garbage. Since it is no longer in the realm of loot runs, Nobody I know bothers with that chest, especially while leveling.
    Aw just stand in the trap and avoid the death by very sharp knives while you loot the chest...
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    What would be bugged about it (or rumoured)?

    I just tried it on elite and disarmed it fine, didn't notice any bugs/glitches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lithic View Post
    As far as I remember, they are still high enough that a non-mechanic isn't likely to have the search to find the box (even at lvl 16 and geared out, with a bard nearby), and yet the loot is ho-hum lvl 15chest garbage. Since it is no longer in the realm of loot runs, Nobody I know bothers with that chest, especially while leveling.
    True.
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    There's a chest in Cabal?


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    2 +1 tomes have been pulled from in on the 4 runs I've been on in the last 2 weeks. Not bad "garbage" loot. Plus, it's just nice to kill that **** trap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djeserit View Post
    I heard a rumor that the trap is bugged now.

    True or just an excuse?

    What are the elite DC's anyway?
    This trap is not bugged in anyway. It is still very difficult to search it and disable it but I run through there quit often on my rogue and have not seen issues with disabling it. I am not sure what rumors you have heard?

    Not sure what the exact dc is to disable on elite but I can get my disable device to 64. I know if I roll a low number like 1 to maybe 3 or 4 it might blow still. So success to disable for me at least is still a little bit of a gamble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeCutter View Post
    2 +1 tomes have been pulled from in on the 4 runs I've been on in the last 2 weeks. Not bad "garbage" loot. Plus, it's just nice to kill that **** trap.
    Most veteran players havent been excited about +1 tomes in quite some time.
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    Well as a non-vet it's pretty exciting for me. In fact if anyone finds their +1 tomes boring they can send them my way, I can use the stats and the cash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeCutter View Post
    2 +1 tomes have been pulled from in on the 4 runs I've been on in the last 2 weeks. Not bad "garbage" loot. Plus, it's just nice to kill that **** trap.
    This is nothing more than anecdotal evidence. Each and every level 15 chest can drop these tomes.

    If you want to do loot-runs there are easier chests who drop better loot, all who do not require an overspecced trapmonkey to get to.




    Nothing special about the loot you get there. But you have to make hurtful sacrifices on a character who wants to disable that trap. Its expensive in build resources. While the gain is virtually non-existant over the lifetime of a character, only the 2-8 times you run this quest while leveling in the Gianthold area.

    And in all the other 99.999% of the content in DDO you will be off significantly worse because you spent resources to get trapskill-overkill who is of absolutely no use there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noctus View Post
    But you have to make hurtful sacrifices on a character who wants to disable that trap.
    This isn't true anymore... Well, maybe it's true if you want to disable it at level 14 while still running Cabal for experience...

    But at cap, with a little loot, it's doable without any build sacrifices... My bard/rogue can get it on elite with a disarm of 63 (it blows if I roll around a 5 or lower, 6-10, try again, 10+ disarmed)

    +19 ranks
    +15 item
    +7 (+5 tools)
    +6 (22 INT 14 base - +2 tome - with a +6 INT item - put on just for this trap)
    +4 Greater Heroism
    +2 Head of Good Fortune
    +3 Ventilated Bracers (stacks - put on just for this trap)
    +3 INT skills (Shroud item - could get this to +6 if I ever wanted to waste the larges - put on just for this trap)

    +1 skill spell
    +1 rogue disarm enhancement
    +2 rogue boost

    Only one AP spent there... and started with a 14 INT... no real build sacrifice...
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    Default Used to be..

    This trap used to be bugged on Elite. Not the box, but when the trap went off, no damage was givin. The blades did all their fun stuff, a little dog-and-pony show, but you rolled no saves and took no damage. I think they fixed it however, this may be what you heard.

    I belive, IIRC, Search DC = 61 / Disable = 72? Something crazy like that .
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    I've been having a blast looting that chest on my mid level rogue.

    If you play your cards right, the whole party is standing next to the opening when you give up searching and just open the chest.

    You can then loot the chest and carry the soul stones to the shrine.

    Great fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    This isn't true anymore... Well, maybe it's true if you want to disable it at level 14 while still running Cabal for experience...
    Yeah, that´s what i was speaking about.

    As there is no reason to ever come back to this quest once you passed Gianthold. Perhaps once for favor, but most people get Gianthold favor done while they are leveling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    This isn't true anymore... Well, maybe it's true if you want to disable it at level 14 while still running Cabal for experience...

    ...
    Usually done with cabal by level 10-11. Seriously who is doing GH walkup quests at 14? Well unless they missed one and need the favor for the 10 HP.
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    I hve a self professed over specced trap monkey rogue with a repeater

    Normal cabal trap: Lv 9

    Hard cabal trap: Lv 11

    Elite cabal trap: Lv 13

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