Help design the new DDO Wiki logo!

[Borror0]

Tired of the ugly looking blue rectangle favicon on the DDO Wiki and our ugly skin? Well, so are we!

The DDO Wiki will be getting a new skin in a few weeks that will replace the horrible one we have now. It will move back to a more traditional (although not identical) MediaWiki skin and this means there will be a big logo displayed on the top left corner similar to Wikipedia's big globe is being displayed on their pages. At the same time, we would replace our favicon to match the new logo.

Wikis are founded on the principle of people working together, each contributing as their talents allow. The DDO Wiki team, and the greater DDO Community, greatly appreciate feedback and participation in creating this new look for the DDO Wiki. As the title suggest, I don't have the skills to do this myself so I figured I could ask the community if anyone has the skills, the time and the desire to give the wiki a hand. If you have the design talent, or even just an idea for a logo that others can expand on, we would appreciate your submissions.

Ultimately we would like the logo to be DDO themed, but the rest is up for you to decide. It can be anything, from a beholder to a d20. As long as it fits into the DDO/D&D theme, it will fit the criteria. While I like Star Wars, I don't think that a light saber would make a good logo for DDO. I am sure you get the idea.

You can submit your logo:

• By posting in this thread
• By sending it to me via PM on the official DDO forums
• By emailing it to me at ddowiki@hotmail.com
• By sending it to me via PM on the Codemaster forums

We will be accepting entries until I wake up and check the forums on July 15th, at which point I will compile all of the entries and create a poll where people can vote on the one that they like the best.

All entries must be submitted under the Creative Commons license, or in Public Domain, and must not contain an trademarked or copyrighted material of Turbine, Hasbro, Atari, Wizards of the Coast, or any other entity. You will not be compensated in any way for your submission, other than cited as a contributor.

Thanks in advance to all who participate,
The DDO Wiki team

PS: I'll try to get a preview of the new skin as soon as possible but I can't guarantee any timeline.

[moorewr]

Great idea.

[Borror0]

Already have a submission from the EU forums... I guess you could call it that... XD
http://community.codemasters.com/for...87#post5311687

[Borror0]

I received those two awesome submissions a few days ago and totally forgot to post them here.

So, here they are:


Both are licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works license and attribution goes to Ricardo Ortiz Morales.

[Minor_Threat]

eh took a quick crack at it.

[Jay203]

Bor, shouldn't you provide the image dimensions?
wouldn't want someone submitting something that's too big/small and you gotta stretch/shrink it out of proportion now would we? :P

[Vivanto]

I received those two awesome submissions a few days ago and totally forgot to post them here.

So, here they are:


Both are licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works license and attribution goes to Ricardo Ortiz Morales.

That's just awesome.

[Osharan_Tregarth]

I received those two awesome submissions a few days ago and totally forgot to post them here.

So, here they are:


Both are licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works license and attribution goes to Ricardo Ortiz Morales.

I like the one with the darker background, but I'd it better if it had the numbers on the dice faces.

[BurnerD]

Here's a quick one...

[Borror0]

here ya go.

It's awesome but there is one or two problems with it. That's a shame because I really like it.

The problems I see with it are:

• Use of the Dungeons & Dragons Online: Stormreach logo, which is a property of Turbine. I have checked with Tolero (I tried something similar and I have been confirmed I can't use it) and that's a big no. Maybe if we alter it a little, it would be alright but as it stands that is too close of the original logo and thus incorrectly suggest that the DDOwiki is endorsed by Turbine.
• Use of the Wikipedia logo, which may or may not be under Creative Common-No Derivative Works. I will have to check with Wikipedia on that detail. If that is legal within the constraints of the license, that logo would be awesome. Though, the Uncyclopedia logo suggest that Wikipedia won't mind that one. I'll com back to you on that one.

A more minor point is that we are DDOwiki and not DDO Wikipedia.

Other than that, I really like your logo.

[Valezra]

It's awesome but there is one or two problems with it. That's a shame because I really like it.

The problems I see with it are:

• Use of the Dungeons & Dragons Online: Stormreach logo, which is a property of Turbine. I have checked with Tolero (I tried something similar and I have been confirmed I can't use it) and that's a big no. Maybe if we alter it a little, it would be alright but as it stands that is too close of the original logo and thus incorrectly suggest that the DDOwiki is endorsed by Turbine.
• Use of the Wikipedia logo, which may or may not be under Creative Common-No Derivative Works. I will have to check with Wikipedia on that detail. If that is legal within the constraints of the license, that logo would be awesome. Though, the Uncyclopedia logo suggest that Wikipedia won't mind that one. I'll com back to you on that one.

A more minor point is that we are DDOwiki and not DDO Wikipedia.

Other than that, I really like your logo.

The wiki is a non-profit public website and the logo is not used for profit. Seems strange you can't use it. In any case I like the beholder idea. I'd suggest putting 1d20 numbers on the different puzzle peices.

As far as the wiki logo is concerned he has changed it enough that it shouldn't be an issue. They haven't copyrighted or licensed round puzzles.....

Val

[Borror0]

The wiki is a non-profit public website and the logo is not used for profit. Seems strange you can't use it.

No, it's copyrighted.

As far as the wiki logo is concerned he has changed it enough that it shouldn't be an issue. They haven't copyrighted or licensed round puzzles.....

After you said that, I went to check it back and it's more different than I thought when I wrote the reply.

The question is whether it's far enough.

[Valezra]

No, it's copyrighted.

After you said that, I went to check it back and it's more different than I thought when I wrote the reply.

The question is whether it's far enough.

Don't get too worried over copyright material. Under U.S. Law there is "Fair Use" of even restricted and copywritten material. Review the 4 "Balancing" checks for determining fair use under current U.S. copyright law and you'd find that using either logo in the context of a wiki is probably fine. If you ask a company about using their logo it is easier for them to say "you can't use it" than it is to actually research and determine if it's okay in the context being used.

Copyright Act of 1976, 17 U.S.C. § 107
Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 17 U.S.C. § 106 and 17 U.S.C. § 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include:

1. the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;
2. the nature of the copyrighted work;
3. the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
4. the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.

Just some food for thought.

Val

[Valezra]

Also note, "DDO" and "Dungeons and Dragons Online" are both copywritten and under the same thinking can't be used in any wiki logo we come up with. We know this to be false of course and the same applies to the graphic logos.

Val

[Borror0]

Yeah. I think it qualifies as fair use. It's not like we're pretending to be Wikipedia (which another reason the Wikipedia tag on Mistinarperadnacles' logo would have to be replaced for "wiki") or painting Wikipedia in a poor light.

Oh, while I got you attention Marketroid had a pretty cool idea. Tolero PM'd me this an hour or two ago:

Marketroid even said that one idea that could be a cool logo is to take that symbol and make it be made of the wiki puzzle pieces, instead of a 'globe' of puzzle pieces. That sounded pretty cool/neat to me and players would easily recognize the symbol as DDO but without having to get all funky about "logo" usage.

I think it could be a totally awesome logo, depending on how it's done. By the way, when she says "that symbol", she refers to the round DDO symbol which I can be found at a few places like the forums' favicon and the splash screen (I think).

Tolero told me we could use that one.

[Mistinarperadnacles]

It's awesome but there is one or two problems with it. That's a shame because I really like it.

The problems I see with it are:

• Use of the Dungeons & Dragons Online: Stormreach logo, which is a property of Turbine. I have checked with Tolero (I tried something similar and I have been confirmed I can't use it) and that's a big no. Maybe if we alter it a little, it would be alright but as it stands that is too close of the original logo and thus incorrectly suggest that the DDOwiki is endorsed by Turbine.
• Use of the Wikipedia logo, which may or may not be under Creative Common-No Derivative Works. I will have to check with Wikipedia on that detail. If that is legal within the constraints of the license, that logo would be awesome. Though, the Uncyclopedia logo suggest that Wikipedia won't mind that one. I'll com back to you on that one.

A more minor point is that we are DDOwiki and not DDO Wikipedia.

Other than that, I really like your logo.

I'm hellishly busy right now and literally just off to a funeral ( ) but I'll rejig it ASAP.

[Borror0]

I'm hellishly busy right now and literally just off to a funeral ( ) but I'll rejig it ASAP.

Truly sorry for your loss. Don't worries. Real life comes first, and even more so in those cases.

[Borror0]

Oh, by the way, if anyone has cool concepts but no skill to realize them you might post them. Could give an idea to someone who has the skills to!

[eclipsechild]

I took the input given in this thread and made many versions of my previous logo. The dice now has glossy borders and font is bigger and more readable. I also took some text from the site and put it transparently in the background.

About putting the numbers in the dice, well, I just put a 20 in one of the versions and it points out that it would make a mess if i put numbers in every side. I personally like it simple. I also prefer the versions with black background.





All versions are licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-No Derivative Works license and attribution goes to Ricardo Ortiz Morales.

I'm playing with the idea of adding puzzle shapes to the dice sides as if the dice was made by triangular puzzle pieces. May post that soon if i like it.

[AlphandOmega]

I am so sorry. Real life does indeed come first.

Truly sorry for your loss. Don't worries. Real life comes first, and even more so in those cases.