healer/caster bard.... and nukes =)

[Varis]

so there I go with bard reroll 21356854634543565643 and it occured to me that the healing line also boosts sonic.

I don't mean hedgehogs or 50's burger joints... nooo shout and greater shout!
It's like playing DDO with capslock on... or so I hope...


anyways, Drow, max charisma with a touch of str to help with dps here and there.
14 str
10 dex
12 con
10 int
8 wis
20 cha

going for spellsinger with the following feats

empower healing
empower
maximise
spell pen
greater spell pen
heighten
(at 18th) mental toughness / toughness... whichever feels right with mod9

soo as you can see I should have some crowd control going, some decent healing AAANNDD empower + maximise.
while they certainly make you look like a pro healer (for a very limited time)
I took them to NUKE.

that's right, a nuking bard.

now before I get bashed to heck and back... has anyone actually tested this?
and not just with empower or maximise

i'm talking max, empower, all enhancements, greater lore and greater potency.


my main is a sorc.. and just in theory it should hit as hard as a fireball... which is pretty **** hard. With the awesome stun on top of it, it should be quite possible to herd up some baddies then lock them until they drop.

Now.. a fair argument would be to say that why bother with bard? A sorc, wizard.. even cleric will do quite a bit better then you when it comes to nuking.

Why thank you for pointing that out sirs and ladies! It IS true.

On the other hand... I now have a FULL on crowd control and healing bard.. that can also burst DPS. Also not to be underestimated... sonic works on pretty much... ANYTHING.


what do you guys think? what have been your experiences so far?

[Noctus]

Im sceptical that the "nuking" part of your build will really work out as you hope, but all the other stuff is fine. (feats, stats, race , levels).

So give it a try and come back once you reached cap to tell us how it worked out in-game.

[Purgatory]

I have a healing bard speced out like this (but no emp have emp healing solo heals the shourd many times with no clr and mostly puggs man were they scared lol) i could make some adjustments and find items and test this out for you.

Give me a few days to swap spells and find correct lore items and ill test this out and see what i can come up with.

[Varis]

I have a healing bard speced out like this (but no emp have emp healing solo heals the shourd many times with no clr and mostly puggs man were they scared lol) i could make some adjustments and find items and test this out for you.

Give me a few days to swap spells and find correct lore items and ill test this out and see what i can come up with.

That would be much appreciated. As mainly a sorc, I know how much of a difference a well placed nuke makes and while it is not realistic to make a "nuker", the ability would add a lot of utility to a build that otherwise seriously lacks in any DPS role.

[maddmatt70]

There has been some posts in this forum on sonic specced bards. Aussie, has a bard in game that is a sonic/healing specced bard. It works well for her. I am not sure what the damage she deals with offensive spells, but not many monsters have sonic resist and the healing aspect works well for her. I would say this is a good build especially right now. I am not sure how things will look in the future in mod 9 when the cap goes up, but for now will be fine.

[maddmatt70]

I would probably swap out empower healing for quicken and heal with maimize and maybe empower. I would choose mental toughness over toughness. Mod 9 is not here yet and all.

[Zippo]

so there I go with bard reroll 21356854634543565643 and it occured to me that the healing line also boosts sonic.

I don't mean hedgehogs or 50's burger joints... nooo shout and greater shout!
It's like playing DDO with capslock on... or so I hope...


anyways, Drow, max charisma with a touch of str to help with dps here and there.
14 str
10 dex
12 con
10 int
8 wis
20 cha

going for spellsinger with the following feats

empower healing
empower
maximise
spell pen
greater spell pen
heighten
(at 18th) mental toughness / toughness... whichever feels right with mod9

soo as you can see I should have some crowd control going, some decent healing AAANNDD empower + maximise.
while they certainly make you look like a pro healer (for a very limited time)
I took them to NUKE.

that's right, a nuking bard.

now before I get bashed to heck and back... has anyone actually tested this?
and not just with empower or maximise

i'm talking max, empower, all enhancements, greater lore and greater potency.


my main is a sorc.. and just in theory it should hit as hard as a fireball... which is pretty **** hard. With the awesome stun on top of it, it should be quite possible to herd up some baddies then lock them until they drop.

Now.. a fair argument would be to say that why bother with bard? A sorc, wizard.. even cleric will do quite a bit better then you when it comes to nuking.

Why thank you for pointing that out sirs and ladies! It IS true.

On the other hand... I now have a FULL on crowd control and healing bard.. that can also burst DPS. Also not to be underestimated... sonic works on pretty much... ANYTHING.


what do you guys think? what have been your experiences so far?

you forgot probably the most usefull sonic spell in the game even at higher levels I've found it working quite ofter=n.

SoundBurst.

[Xyfiel]

And from the way back machine...

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...96#post1436796

Spellsinger, healing dragonmarks, pure, is what I am going to do sometime soon. I deleted the character when I got back from the gulf and have been waiting to remake it.

[Junts]

You'd be way better off as a human, you know, especially if you want any kind of melee ability, you don't have enough con to melee as a bard with that build.

Also, it hits as hard as regular fireball, not delayed blast .. which is significantly less.

You're looking at 320ish on failed saves, tops, probably slightly less, which isn't very good.

[Varis]

You'd be way better off as a human, you know, especially if you want any kind of melee ability, you don't have enough con to melee as a bard with that build.

Also, it hits as hard as regular fireball, not delayed blast .. which is significantly less.

You're looking at 320ish on failed saves, tops, probably slightly less, which isn't very good.

It's less, but not horribly so.. my DBF hits for 1000, the post above said 790.
Certainly worth it as a kind of burst damage when the situation calls for it.

Oh and Xyfiel, very nice build although it focuses on heals more while I'm leaning towards crowd control. It's kinda scary.. but with the 20th capstone and spellsinger buff we can have a higher DC then a full caster for enchantment spells.


Also while we really can't melee we still do 1d6+20. If you get something better then a +5 weapon I'm sure we can do passable damage. Pointless on a raid but in a quest it's quite a bit of help. Especially when you run short.

[jumpinjahosiphat]

I had a nice detailed post written up but alas I've lost it to
the white screen of frustration.

Anyway are you still having fun with this build?

I might take Maximise and Greater shout on my TWF Spellsinger
Build. There are too many great synergies with the Healing/Sonic
Enhancements not to at least try this out.

Does the damage/stun also work on undead?

Will an Evocation focus from say dragon armor help with the DC
of the stun portion of the spell?

Thanks for any insight you might have.